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Apparently the wise men who followed the star to a Premier's mansion in Fredricton came bearing gifts... in the form of serious money, advisers, and a seasoned NATIONAL campaign organization to be placed at his disposal. The important thing now, is to establish a viable government alternative. Otherwise we risk a perpetual one-party-rule situation. Everybody's going to have to take some water in their wine. The more right wing elements in the party will have to, publicly anyway, move a shade toward center, and the more "moderate" ones will have to stand for more conservative positions. It will not be Reform, nor will it be the Joe Clark Red tory party.

As opposed to what the Liberals are, a Central elitist party devoted to the colonization and exploitation of the west and east?????? As far as separatists go, I'd wager that there are more of them in the Liberal party than the Conseervative... I believe Yvon Charbonneau & Denis Coderre voted yes in 1980. correct me if I'm wrong. Liza Frulla has always been "Quebec first", and any firewalls accusations can be as easily applied to her as to Harper. Then there's Lucienne Robillard, ON RECORD as having voted to have the Canadian flag removed from the Quebec national Assembly. And what about Paul MArtin's new friend, Jacques Lanctot? And what about his old friend who he's thinking about brining back: Jean Lapierre? I'm sure there are others.

Some big endorsements coming.... According to Bourque Ne:wswatch Lord To Count On Support of Alberta's Ralph Klein, ex-PM Brian Mulroney, &, yes, Quebec Lib Premier Jean Charest. Developing ... -------- Should this bear out, Martin can no longer count on growth in Quebec.

In times of war, in order to save lives you must use ANY means at your disposal to minimize the enemy's ability to inflict damage on your side, and to inflict maximum incapacitation, preferably sparing civilian life , on his. Your enemy will not be playing by Queensberry Rules, and will be ruthless in his attempts to subdue your side. To avoid using every means at your disposal to defeat your enemy is the height of irresponsibility. Once the war is over, and pacification complete, then you put away the scopolomine, sleep deprivation ( a real form of torture) and whatever other means you had to use. Generally, drugs and sleep deprivation techniques and psychological tactics have been perfected to the point where savage beatings, and other physical torments are not needed, at least at higher levels, but in the trenches, all you might have at your disposal is the butt of a rifle, and a pair of pliars. War is not a game. I consider the war on terror to be real war too, so arrested suspects may also be subject to scopolomine, sleep deprivation etc as well. One day, it might make the difference as to whether First Canadian Place remains standing or not.

The key thing is that there is going to be a race, not a coronation. A real race, not a sham. This is going to be the biggest excitement in Canadian politics since the race to succeed Mulroney, or even CA race #1. There will be serious media attention. I wonder if Bernie Lord might be enough to convince Mssrs. Bachand and Herron to reconsider. It should.. But to hell with Brison, let him sink with the HMS Rednose. He should NEVER be welcomed back. Not even if he says "pretty please". The Bloc must be having a collective heart attack. Bernard Lord does not have superhero staus in Quebec, yet, but things can change quickly there... The Bloc is imploding, and there are many voters that are looking for an alternative to the Fiberals. So Why not Lord? Remember in July '84, Turner was supposed to keep the Liberal dynasty going, and he had 74 of 75 seats in the province, But the night of Sept. 4th , 58 seats sent Conservatives off to Ottawa. Could well happen again, especially with a Francophone leader, especially someone not part of the Desmarais extended family.

And excitement is just what the Doctor ordered. As iron Sharpens iron, so man sharpens his fellow man..... so the Proverb goes. If Harper wins, he'll deserve it, and will have earned his stripes, and lord, vice versa. Note Klein & Harris were among the delegation that beat a path through the snow to a certain Fredricton doorstep. As for Quebec, If Lord runs a strong high profile campaign, win or lose, the party will have credibility in Quebec. A Lord victory means more seats, but even a respectable defeat will pay dividends long term.

You were saying , Galahad? As for Martin, he's as stale as 3000 year old mummified bread. He's had 10 years to show us what he can do. all he did was follow the Wilson/Mazankowski blueprint. A blueprint which set Canada on some solid economic foundations, but now needs to be to refitted for the times. Don't expect that gang of red fools to have anything positive to add.

It's a brand new ball game now. Quebec is going to be in play. After the "breaking news item, i've pasted something I heard yesterday, but decided not to pass on at that point... The realy important thing has happened. there will be a hotly contested race, and no matter which one wins, they will steal Martin's thunder for the next 3 months. I'm sure the invisible hand of eminence grise , the Rt. Hon. Brian Mulroney is behind this. This changes everything. ------------------- EXCLUSIVE: LORD SET TO RUN Bourque has learned that NB Premier Bernard Lord is all but set to launch his bid for the leadership of the new Conservative Party of Canada. Maritime sources tell Bourque under condition of anonymity that Lord will spend this weekend in a final contemplation about whther he will move to Ottawa. But, as on insider put it, "Pierre, even Bernard's wife is onside this time, she vetoed his move last time." That would pitch Lord against CA leader Stephen Harper and Calgary lawyer Jim Prentice, who is backed by former PC national director Susan Elliott. Final armtwisting is promised by politico Goldie Hyder, in New Brunswick tomorrow to meet with the Premier. If, as expected, Lord moves to Ottawa, Brad Green, the Min. of Justice, has apparently been tapped as interim leader, and Elvy Robichaud, the Min. of Health is the odds on fav. to win a leadership. Developing. --------------- Dec 14/03 "BERNIE.....IT'S NOW OR NEVER" From the National Capital Conservative..... A powerful presentation will be made today to convince Bernard Lord to run for the Leadership of the Conservative Party of Canada. An influential group is approaching Mr. Lord to offer him a campaign team, money, policy experts, and volunteers and are demanding that he make up his mind once and for all. This influential group includes people like Ralph Klein, Pat Binns, Mike Harris and John Hamm, who will all offer their endorsement of a Lord candidacy via teleconference during the presentation. For the past few days, Senior organizers have been approaching other high-profile party faithful to ask them to contribute their name to the presentation. It is believed that this list is a 'who's who' of Canadian conservatives and one that any leadership candidate would have a tough time turning away. This effort stems from the fact that many believe a new party needs a new leader. It is expected the presentation will be the final push that Lord needs to enter the race, and it is believed that Lord realizes he can do more for New Brunswickers as Prime Minister that he can as Premier.

Maybe not 60 %, but at least 34-38% at the end of the day. It won't take longvto expose Martin for the fraud he is and the bill of godds he is trying to sell. All he did through the leadership campaign was utter bromides about how things would be different, usually through spokesmen like Nick Discepola and Stan Keyes, even prompting Stephen harper to publicly question whether there actually was a Paul Martin. He will probably try to do exactly the same thing in the run up to the election... look at what he did yesterday! a visit to DND, and nothing but sweeping, non-specific promises that things will change for the better, but absolutely no commitments as to how much money, and what new equipment! The novelty of Paul Elliot Chretien will wear off quickly, and more so once the CP's leadership race kicks into gear. The election will be much closer than everyone thinks.

The only surprise about his eating SPAM, is not the fact that it is verboten in Islam, but that he didn't have secret stashes of caviar! Saddam was about as Islamic as Jean Chretien is Christian. The Ba'ath regime was officially atheistic, and he only invoked Islam when it suited his purposes of manipulating the people.

I've said from the beginning that Paul Elliot Chretien is a sock puppet of Maurice Strong and the United Nations. Strong is Martin's mentor, so of course, you can expect Martin to take his marching orders from this new-age one-worlder. That martin would immediately call for this mass murderer to go before those liberal clowns in The Hague is not surprising. There will be no significant improvement in relations between Canada and the United States untilm this socialist latrine decides to grow up, and elexcts a conservative government, preferably with someone like Stephen Harper at its head, (ie: Not part of the Family Compact/Chateau Clique), who wants to pull Canada's collective head out of UN/France/Germany's filthy liberal rectum. As bad as Chretien was, I expect Martin to be much worse. Let's not give him the chance to prove me right.

Speaking of post-modern nonsense, our wonderful, new "conservative" Prime Minister has just said that Saddam Hussein should be tried in an international war crimes court. No way. This guy should be tried either (in order of preference) by AN IRAQI tribunal which has already been set up for this, or by the countries who actually participated in his ouster and capture, should the former not be possible. To put im in front of the Franco-Prussian sock puppets in the Hague would be a miscarriage of justice. May the EU splinter, and let adult nations deal adults.

The EU is not a country, nor , does it appear they ever will be. The newly and fast emerging power in the new Europe, Poland will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER sign anything that will give Germany control over even one grain of Polish sand, let alone over the destiny of one single Polish citizen. Too many wars have been fought over 600 years, eqch time Germany was the Agressor, and each time with varying degrees of ruthlessness, the Germans sought to wipe out the Polish People in their quest fortheir "destiny" as rulers over eastern Europe. In the last war, Germany slaugherted 12 million catholic Poles, not counting the 3.5 million jewish Poles, out of a total pre-war population of 30 Million plus. And why sould poland want to listen to anything France has to say? They refused to honour their mutual defense treaty with Poland in '39 when the Nazi tanks rolled over the border. They similarly abandoned Czechoslovakia as well. There's another country that will not welcome German/French machinations. There are also many Spaniards living today who have living memories of the Franco regime, and tie it in to Nazi Germany. Spain is also becoming a fats growing economy, and a nation enjouying clout on the international stage again, and they have no interst in relinquishing that to traditional enemy France, and the likes of Gerhard Schroeder and Joschka Fischer. And Italy is finally coalescing into a serious power as well, under the conservative Berlusconi, whose governmment has lasted longe than any since the end of WWII. I would like to see the EU dissolved. Anything that helps prop up parasitical socilaist cesspoools like France and Germany should not exist. Let those two OLD EUROPEAN countries face reality.

I'll drink to that! Poland was the little country that brought down the evil empire. That nation has produced so many saviours when they were needed most... From Jagiello, who took the measure of the Teutonic knights at Grunwald and saved Eastern Europe from becoming German, to Jan Sobieski who saved Vienna from a massive Turkish onslaught, and thus Christian Europe from Muslim domination to Tadeusz Kosciuszko who led the insurgency against Russia, Prussia and Austria and though his democratic forces lost, he remained an inspriation that would help keep the Polish nation (though not the state) alive during the 123 year occupation., then there was Jozef Pilsudski, who fought off the Soviet Union in 1920, possibly saving Europe from communization. The Poles, unlike the French, stood up to the Nazis when they invaded, and finally produced men like John Paul II and Lech Walesa, who stood up to Soviet Russia. This is NOT a country that will sign a document that will give GERMANY, of all countries yet another chance to rape them. And Spain is about to regain major power status as it once agan becomes a proud nation. They are not about to take marching orders from Paris or Berlin either.

I was worried about Putin the moment he was appointed to succeed Yeltsin. The way those elections were held displays that little has really changed in Russia. Putin should perhaps be referred to as Vladimir I , first in the line of Putin Tsars. The Duma varies little from the one that existed under Nicholas the Last. Basically a rubber stamp for the real poops in power. Russia may have made a move toward private enterprise, out of neccesity, but the new regime is taking on an eerie National Socialist feel to it, where private enterprise is permitted (to those who are on board with the regime), but heavy state controls nevertheless exist.

Gopod post Craig. Like it or not China is a major power, and is here to stay. I want to speak to the issue of Taiwan. For those who are not aware, Taiwan has never been an independent country. It's official name is "Republic of China" . this comes from the time in 1949, when Chiang Kai-Shek and his Guomindang (Nationalist) Party rule was driven out of Mainland China by the Communists. They took refuge on Taiwan, and declared themselves the legitimate government of ALL China. Therefore it must be understood that Chiang kai-Shek and Guomindang never declared independence, therefore in their view, as in the view of the Communist government in Mainland china, Taiwan was a province of China. Then in teh 1970's the United States, United nations and most other countries decided to recognize the Communist regime in Beijing as the legitimate government of China, so taiwan became a unique case in the world, where it had no diplomatioc recognition, but was a de-facto independent country. For example, canada and many other countries have a Tarde office in Taipei, which is really an Embassy in all but name. This situation would probably be allowed to continue indefinitely, but in the late '90s, Guomindang under tremendous pressure, lost its one-party rule, and was eventually voted out of office by a younger generation of Taiwanese who feel no affinity toward China, and want to establish their own nationhood in Taiwan, ie: No more Republic of China, but rather a republic of Taiwan. CHina cannot tolerate this, as it is a matter of losing face, as a renegade province thumbs its nose and declares independence. This is intolerable to a superpower. Had Chiang Kai-Shek immediately declared independence in 1949, instead of foolishly believing he would be restored to power on the mainland, this probably would never have become an issue. What must happen now, is that George Bush must now inform the new President of Taiwan, that if they want to have contytinued US support, they must leave well-enough alone, and continue the charade of the last 50 years. The referendum on idependence must be stopped, NOW. China WILL invade if there is a declaration of independence. CHina is not a single ethnic monolith, and cannot tolerate one province breaking away. If Taiwan goes, then on what grounds can they claim continued sovereignty over Tibet? Manchuria? Inner Mongolia? China will not want to lose "face" in the world, so they cannot stand idle in this instance. The young Taiwanese who support independence had really better take a long hard look at the costs involved. Not only in terms of lives, but also standard of living. At this point, Taiwan enjoys one of the highest standrds of living in the world. Do they want to see that change by actually being absorbed into China? They should also remember where alot of that wealth comes from: It so happens that the largest investor in the Chinese economy is Taiwan. In other words, they are making money hand over fist under the current arrangement. Is losing all that worth exchanging "trade offices" for Embassies and ambassdors? for a seat at the UN? Those are just trappings. and what bloody good are they, at the sacrice of one of the soundest economies in the world, and one of the freest places in which to live? Union with China one day is pretty much inevitable. This situatioin could continue for another 50-100 years, and by that time, China will hopefully have matured into a relatively free country, with an economy that will mesh well with Taiwan's.

Nonsense. He only won last time because there were some personal issues surrounding Gary Nestibo, who still made it close. He will be defeated unless he stays Conservative. The riding only went Liberal ONCE (1993) In the entire history of its existence (since 1952)

That many people, some 3.5% voted their conscience in the 2000 Presidential election (ie: Greens) possibly saved the US from An Al Gore Presidency. For the record, I would have voted for McClintock in California because he was the best, a true consrvative republican, pro-lifer, and who knew the political ropes. In some states, I might get stuck with an Arlen Spector, Lincoln Chafee, Susan Collins or Olympia Snowe as my Republican candidate. What difference doies it make in those cases, whether a republican orn Dumbocrud gets elected? In such a case, I'd vote Constitution. On the other hand, If my Republican candidate was someone like Rick Santorum, or Orrin Hatch, I'd vote for them in a second. In Canada, things work a bit differently. In my riding, the Liberal generally wins with 70% plus. I can vote my conscience easily there. But in another, I might have to compromise to stop a Liberal by voting for a Conservative, or even a Bloquiste on the grounds that a Bloquiste is less likely to do damage on the opposition benches than an extra Liberal in government. It's a call each and every voter has to make on their own. We all have our own reasons for voting the way we do. and circumstances sometimes dictate our actions.

Just as easily as that old bastard Trudeau replaced the Diefenbaker Bill of rights with this horrid charter, it too, can be replaced, and the sooner the better. At this point we have conservative premiers in 7 provinces, a liberal in one, and New Democrats in two. I believe the amending formula needs 7 out of 10 provinces to ratify it. And most importantly, Parliament must stand up to the activist judiciary, and show some leadership instead of being a rubberstamp for the PMO and the courts. Hugo is right that NAMBLA and like groupos will use the courts just like the gays did, and that most liberal canadians will take the "whatever floats your boat" attitude, "Who cares as long as they're in love" etc. Can you imagine custody battles between parents and perverts over 9 year old little boys and girls? Once the bastards can legally marry your children what legal leg will you have to stand on? It won't happen overnight, but such is the nature of the slippery slope.

You laugh as you look down the end of your sneering liberal nose.... but 10 yesrs ago, if you said gay marriage was just around the corner, you'd be laughed off stage. I REPEAT, for the slower among us, the Liberals are never going to introduce a LAW permitting dog marriage, polygamy, communal marraige or anything like that. They don't have to. The Trudeau Charter of Rights, as interpreted by liberal activist judges will do it for them. The liberal courts have already set a dangerous precedent that they'll have trouble backing off from when these cases are put to them by radical activists in the not to distant future. IT's been how many weeks since Massachusetts courts said that, according to them gay marriage is just jim-dandy, there are already polygamists in Utah suing on the grounds that if its OK for gays, why not for them? The Conservative Party needs to campaign on curbing the activist judiciary and remaking it into an objective court of law once more.

The Liberals have probably told him they could offer nothing but a seat between Andre Harvey and David Price. He's a young man, and a strong performer in Parliament. If he gets on board, he could well be an asset.

it is not spelled out in the charter, but we have seen how liberal judges have interpreted it in the past. in law, precedent is everything.

I thought that Bachand and Herron would have shown more intelligence and extended their carreers in the new party. However, the only other one I think mighty consider jumping ship is Rick Borotsik. Every day he stays on, reduces that possibility.

They won't need a "bill". The precedent is there. If the traditional definition of marriage, ie: one man and one woman is abolished, what's stopping a polygamist from going to court and arguing on the same grounds as the gays did? Sooner or later someone will argue the same thing about marrying their dog.

No, I'm not surprised. Since he came out of the closet, he has become a strident gay activist. The Liberals are now saddled with their own Svend Robinson now. The Conservatives are lucky to be rid of him. He was hoping to outlast Elsie Wayne in the PC Party, and wanted her dumped for her "homophobia" . Whining little crybaby. Yes, he called for her dismissal as deputy leader. How soon we forget, it seems. If not for Elsie Wayne, the PC party would not have lived to see 1997, and he never would have been elected. Now the Conservatives can concentrate on being a conservative party and not have to sell out the social conservatives to keep poor old Scottie happy. He defected, because Paulie Waulie is probably promising him a senior cabinet post that he would prefer not to wait another 4 years to get. Whether Paulie Waulie will deliver remains to be seen. We have seen what happens to Tory defectors: Just ask André Harvey, Diane St. Jacques and David Price.