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Wow! That's a lot of money, and probably enough to fund a defence case had he chosen. So it looks like he knew what he was doing was wrong to start with. You say you were the one planting the trees? It says nursery stock used to reforest, so what sort of trees and shrubs were used?

And here I thought you were going to say it ended when God died. Whew!

To a degree...

I would have thought it ended May 4th, 1970 at Kent State. But why Jimmy Carter?

Which province has capital punishment?

When was the "American Way" invented, do you have an approximate date for that?

Oh but it does matter "what the names of the things are" if you were actually following the topic of that particular discussion. So do you want to give us some insight into why those names are as they are in la belle province, or does that not fit in with the role you have chosen here?

But Australia and Brazil were 'for example' outside references (but it could as easily be Britain or Germany or Japan or China) which is completely on-topic.

Agreed, but the fellow uses some interesting and somewhat urbane English that reveals a good command of the language, which would suggest to me a Western education in English, possibly even study in journalism or English lit. I find it interesting that this writer capitalizes "Great Satan," but does not do the same for "holy warriors" or "wrath." I suppose there could be a minor quarrel about some grammar, but othewise smoothly written, almost profesional. Hey, Mansour Mohammed Jaffa, just out of curiosity, did you go to - or are you presently attending - the U of T?

But not in any much more significant way than Brazil or Australia. Their not my "elite icons" since I don't aspire to the likes of. You are misapplying your view as mine again, and that simply isn't the case. The only "answer" (a generous term in this case) you have given is one about production values. Seriously, a typical response, but hardly worthy of someone who is so adept at oggling others in equal measure. LOL, I don't think so: To which I replied: Previous to that we had been discussing the narrow fictional context of American pop culture through exported film - i.e. "Errol Flynn as Robin Hood." So how you arrived at me describing "American culture" as "all fiction" is in itself a fiction and the result of... self-referential thinking. In the least, I am glad you find this topic generally interesting!

Really? Not even the USA? If not, then on what basis are you coming to this determination of state autonomy versus provincial autonomy with regard to their respective federal arrangments?

I am not (much of) a CPC supporter, but a fair defence is recognized in criminology is it not? I think your defintition of elite and intellectual is a titch too narrow and appears to exclude an 'elite or intellectual' person from having political views. So I believe there are 'Conservative' elites and intellectuals in practically all aspects of Canadian life whether academic, business or bureaucracy. Not all elites are intellectuals and not all intellectuals are elites, although I would say most intellectuals are deemed so because of some sort of talent, not necessarily so with the elites. So ideology - in our very liberal Canadian way - counts. So if you were a CPC and had a choice between a conservative sounding criminologist and a liberal sounding criminologist, who would you be taking advice from? Because it isn't like criminology is hard science or something, where one's political viewpoint really doesn't count for much. (usually - but lets not go there) We can't ignore that elites and intellectuals frequently quarrel among themselves, so what is the big deal if the political elite argues with them? Besides, despite Wild Bill's good take on some of the problems, August1991 has really put the stake through Coyne' article by showing that it might be only a certain 'brand' of elite or intellectual that Coyne is beefing over. Perhaps the Conservative brand of elites and intellectuals get invited to policy retreats, as did Coyne. )But I am betting he won't be invited again. )

And yet all of these instruments are based on liberal European ideas, more or less, despite the insistence from "some" Americans that they are somehow uniquely American or the result of the "American way of thinking." You rarely hear that mentioned in CSI or Law and Order - they never seem to tell you where the 'right to silence' comes from do they? Some of them actually believe it originated with the 5th Amendment. But alas, we know better don't we BC, that in practically all forms of life, Americans are still beholden to liberal European ideas after all this time So do some Americans. And some other Americans aspire to the likes of Rembrandt, Mozart, Spinoza or Oppenheimer and yet... nothing. Why is that, did you ever answer? Exactly what did I say was fiction?

Except for 'President of the Assembly' and the name 'National Assembly' which are similar to the names used in France. Now that we have settled that, how about you tell us all why they decided to use the term 'President of the Assembly' and why they decided to name it 'National Assembly.' I could really use your insight here.

So no... you didn't "get" the date reference.

You didn't get the date reference? Instead of ends, look at beginnings.

In Hull too. (eh, Gatineau I mean)

Using the combine and cotton gin to "pretty much" illustrate the full range of "agriculture methods" especially those in use before 1776. Good one! Oops. Instead of the cotton gin.

Correct, to a degree. My point was in reference to the name this house has taken in modern times: Assemblée nationale du Québec which has a certain France-like flavour. I mean, they could have called it a Congress...

So are you now going to commit to the idea that there is a distinct "American way of thinking? And for Edison, where did his ideas of electricity come from? And for farmers, what first informed them of agricultural methods? Were these distinct American inventions?

And yet we didn't seeing that we patterned our government on the Westminster Parliament, National Assembly in QC and named ourselves after an Iroquois word that means 'town.' And lets not forget those European elites (and their damned etiquette) who came over to make their fortunes off of the natural resources or who bided their time until they could jump into the American Dream. One of the biggest "fleeing waves of immigrants" also happened to be British Loyalists after the War of Independence... Then of course there were the enticement campaigns to get people - the right kind of people - to actually come here and settle. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore." Nope, that is pure Americana and has very little to do with Canada.

Ideas and observations about what?

I did a search of the article for 'elite' and it came up once, in the passage I quoted above. As well, there is no reference to "academic elites," but I would assume that a reference to "elites" could include those in academic fields as well as business and the bureaucracy. I also did not find the word "bash." If you are wanting a dissertation, I suppose I could dredge something up, but nah. But how about this? 'Trudeau slams constitution critics' Lots of elites and intellectuals were caught in PET's pet project. Fun times! OK, we don't hear about it as often, but do you have a link or some credible source to back this up?

Well it hasn't quite backfired yet since, as the Liberals and NDP have amply supplied over the years, criticism of elites and intellectuals is easy pickins especially when you hold their paycheques over their heads. It doesn't appear to be right, OK, but everyone is doing it - or has one it - including the elites and intellectuals themselves from time to time. As for Stockwell Day, well, LOL, what can you say? However, as one person in the CPC his beliefs are relatively harmless as President of the Treasury Board. I would imagine the dinosuars that work there keep him busy though.