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Canada is more multi-coloured/cultured than the UK. Canada's education is one of the best in the world. Your defence? Another race rant perhaps? Maybe some more copied and pasted articles from WN sources? Examples of Japan? Germany? US 1993 department of justice crime statistics? Fabricated facts? Just close your eyes, pick one and post it.

Thats what they said on Stormfront, it must be right.

Then it had nothing to do here with our victim friend. The angry douche bags who committed the assault are nothing more than beardless extremists. They're no better than thugs with guns in Afghanistan, given a different circumstance they'd be the ones blowing themselves up. Oh I see, another 2c quip on multiculturalism, thanks for losing.

Was the victim of this attack an east African who didn't learn english and was planning to send his daughter back to East Africa to have her circumcised? Attacking someone on the street because of their skin colour is not the same as disagreeing with multiculturalism.

Makes sense. I guess we laugh until someone gets hurt. Stormfront is a clown show.

There's no such thing as race, its a social construct. Mixing of peoples has been such an integral part of humanity its almost ridiculous we even see so many people get upset over it. The term racial purity is like saying "chocolate chip unicorn". Most race haters are social failures or financially disadvantaged, they feel their inadequacies were brought about by others. Its almost certain the perpetrators of the attack in some way fit the category. Anyone who has had the misfortune of reading through the pseudo comedy site known as Stormfront will have a laugh at the childish stupidity of tripe that grown men consider intellectual dialogue. They use analogies and examples of horse and dog breeding and compare them with human genetics, while pretending to understand the subject matter. Anyways, the Earth is growing smaller as communication and transportation continues to bring people closer together. The resistance of the globalization of people from different origins coming together is comedies like Stormfront and lictor. Today there is a cross pollination between Africa and Asia, with an Africa town in almost every major city in Eastern China. Legal and illegal immigrants, and millions of Chinese in Africa, also legal and illegal. Shall we say...the show (miscegenation) will go on? You bet. (Yeah I know a bit off topic).

Japan's economy in the last 25 years has been stagnant. I'm not sure why you keep comparing a so called "sick" west with a nation which has not grown economically in three decades. And now Japan is just as hard hit by the economic meltdown as any other nation. Of course if you're a race hater (well...color skin hater) then the perception that the "west" is sick is definitely understandable. If you base everything in your life on race, then yes, you're in for a long miserable future. However if you live, and let live, then I don't see how the "west" is sicker than any other place in the world.

Like a seagull...my post flew over your head. I'd suggest you read it over again.

You are forgetting Poland (why do they do that?) Italy, Holland, Switzerland, Germany..... The quest for freedom was in no way confined to Britain and France. Otherwise forget Protestantism and the rise of the nation state. In the modern sense, the quest of freedom was certainly not confined to Europe in that sense. The British colonies of North America fought for their freedom. The Africans in Kenya and Ghana fought for their freedom. The Algerians fought for their freedom. The Brazilians fought for their freedom. Blacks in America fought for their freedom, women fought for their freedom, gays and lesbians are fighting for their freedom, the Uighurs are fighting for their freedom and Tibetans are fighting for their freedom too. The list is endless and freedom is a relative term. What is the definition of freedom? The freedom to enslave another person? The freedom to choose political affiliation? The freedom to criticize the establishment without fear of reprisal? freedom to marry who you choose? Worship whichever deity you wish? The Europeans fought for their freedom at home while simultaneously taking away the freedoms of people in far off lands.

What a load of bollocks. Three countries were central to the creation of what is considered freedom by modern classical liberal standards; United Kingdom (which doesn't like to consider itself European), France, and to some extent hypocritical America (freedom for the white-man only). The rest of so called "Europe" didn't know freedom if it hit them in the face with a violent revolution until the 90s. The Portuguese were running all over the Americas enslaving blacks and Indians until the end of the 19th century. The Spanish were doing the same until America beat them out of the region. The Germans were still bounded by their strongmen and feudal lords. They and the Italians loved strongmen so much they proceeded to revive them to power with a bang in the 1930s. The Russians to this day don't have many freedoms. And neither do the Moldovans, Albanians, and to some extend the Serbs. Europe my arse! Britain, France and a few other questionable foreign philosophers are the lynchpins. And they are hardly a representation of the whole of Europe.

I fully agree with you. However the whole point of this topic was about those who do not agree with this principle. And some here try to justify the unjustifiable.

I didn't ask you that. Has it occurred to you the person that asked you might be a conservative? Let’s take this topic elsewhere…. Halifax is one of the most beautiful towns in Canada in my opinion, and I've done some extensive work there, and while by no means am I trying to generalize, many there don't take kindly to taking orders from someone with darker skin. Racism in the job market and especially higher echelons of corporate offices still exist. Many still believe "All races are created equal, but some more equal than others". I find racist to be both of liberal and conservative political alignment, of every colour, ethnicity and background. This is why anti-discrimination laws exist. I won't be surprised if an Indian or Korean manager find themselves embroiled in their wrath within the next few years.

If you truly you believe that we should treat all races equal (not just under the law, but in every sector of society including jobs, housing, marriage etc), then this does not necessarily apply to you. But tossing "liberal" around like a curse word is highly immature.

People should be treated the same way regardless of where they’re from or who they are. That includes all sections of the spectrum ranging from justice to the job market. I do find it amusing that the word "Liberal" is usually tagged on miscegenationists (such as myself), those who live in mixed neighborhoods, urban dwellers, and minorities. In addition the word liberal is thrown with a vicious vigor at those who accept that race is just a social construct and demand equal treatment (in all sectors of society). This is fallacy. Conservatives throughout different corners of this continent believe in the same principles, and there are minorities in Canada who support the conservative party. In fact the conservative victories in the past two elections have hinged so much on the visible minority vote. I can’t see the party really enacting policies that will upset them. I suggest if you vote conservative due to a false belief that somehow they will fulfill your racialist fantasies, I'd suggest you start yourself another party that will because the Canadian torys is not it.

Racism and assaults due to colour of one's skin can occur anywhere. The important thing is for the authorities to use the full scepter of the law in dealing with such matters. There are hate crime laws in place in almost all Anglo-Saxon and many multi-ethnic nations (including India, African countries where there is effective law enforcement, Brazil, Cuba, and many more I couldn't name off the top of my head). It is important to initiate hate crime laws where a hate crime has been committed. It is also important to enforce it fairly amongst all races (when related to race). This is a dispicable attack and it is important that as a society we acknowledge the root causes of why this sort of thing still goes on. As for the Haitian comments, in no way will I defend such sickening actions; however lictor's comment "hate-filled savages" equally applies to the assailants of the aforementioned crime in Courtenay Park.

Military conquest is not the same as long term colonization and settlement. What England did with its North American colonies, Australia, African colonies and India cannot be compared to Japan's feat. Irrelevant. I won't even get into it I believe you're smarter than that. Absolutely false. Japan was an absolute dictatorship until in 1945 it was forced to adopt a western style democracy and forced to give up its offensive military machine. Britian has always exported human capital. The British have heavily populated Canada, the USA, Australia, South Africa, and to a lesser extent India, Kenya (more Brits in Kenya than Kenyans in Britain), Botswana, and many more have scattered throughout the world. This cannot be compared with Japan. Hence there are people from the formers colonies who have moved to the UK and the government of the UK sough to deal with it by enacting rules that would help ease the friction. A direct comparison between the UK and Japan is akin to comparing Bananas to Chiwawas.

You proved my early point regarding colour has nothing to do with it. Not all Africans are equal, not all Asians are equal. The empire of Nubia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nubia) for example far surpassed anything built by the jungle dwellers of central Congo. While in Asia, with far larger population cluster, the Indians from the Hindu Kush built far more powerful Empires than the Tamils (Tamil Nadu) and the Han Chinese built far more powerful and organized regimes than the Tibetans or South Vietnamese. And there's a big difference in results today. The pendulum of power constantly swings, there was a time when the Roman considered Nubian (black) generals the smartest warriors, and thought the Germans as primitive northern Savage. Now it is the German who looks upon the Nubian as the primitive savage. I wouldn't be astonished if by the end our lifetimes it is the Africans or brown South Americans that astonish us at abilities. Don't get too hung up on skin colour and phenotypical traits of a people for it is far more that counts regarding civilization building.

Actually I have been to Japan, S.Korea, Singapore, and Taiwan. To a Japanese person a Korean is a white to a black man in north America. Japan has a very rich and deep culture, and in no way do I insult them by stating that they are naturally an isolationist country. But they are. "Japanese only", "no wide eyes allowed", all signs I've come across in Japan. The young generation may love American culture, but the Japanese nationalists may not be so friendly. You should talk to some, I have. Japan has a history of suspicion to those outside of it, I would suggest you read about British and American traders murdered in Japan when it first opened its shores. Japan is a beautiful and highly developed country, but socially there are skeletons in its closet. In addition; Japan in its history had no colonization aspirations until the British and Americans forced them to open up and they saw that the only way to industrialize was to have access to natural resources which it did not have, we know the rest of the story. Japan is homogeneous as a nation. It is an island. Japan did not create colonies with slaves in the western hemisphere. If it did, it would have the same issues as contemporary western nations such as America and Brazil, and to a far lesser extent Canada. Britain is a special case since it is the opposite of Japan, they are very open and have a history of encouraging free trade and migration of people (Canada, America, and Australia for example). I actually don't know what to say regarding the rest of your post since it is a rather useless rant regarding Japanese sport, opera, useless youtube links which is no different than any other modern day country so I'll leave it at that.

Does appreciating your own race mean claiming superiority over others and subjugating them as second class citizens? If people are free to do as they want then why were there so many rules that forced separation in our neighbor in the south? In South Africa? In Australia? In Canada when it came to dealing with natives? People do prefer their own race, only when there is a different culture. The reason why there are black schools and universities (however, not exclusive to blacks whites can enroll too) is because until the 60s, blacks in most states were excluded from attending higher education colleges, making centres of higher learning de-facto white. This is very similar argument the KKK would write in their leaflets, and I quote "...Rules to re-establish the god given superiority of the white-man". This re-iterates the views of modern day racialist (of all colours) regarding race, however appreciation of one's race does not constitute enforcement of "god given rules" of one over another. Regarding the question of FORCED integration, this is another fallacy by modern day proclaimed race whores. Separation was never separate but equal as the southern states like to claim. The taxation of 'negros' in the south was equal, however the redistribution of services, voting rules, and law enforcement practices remained highly slanted against him. It was one of the primary reasons the supreme court smashed the Jim Crow laws once and for all, for such a system of separated races could never be equally enforced. The idea that black cops could patrol black neighborhoods, black lawyers would defend black convicts, black entrepreneurs would start black companies was repulsive the the southern white men. The system had to be destroyed and integration had to happen. A true separate but equal system where no race would have dominance over another would be destructive to the nation, far more than integration or separate BUT UNEQUAL.

Is there a valid argument for claiming superiority? Embracing your family greatly differs from hating your neighbors. Loving one's child does not constitute hate for other children. It does not mean forceful separation, and it certainly doesn't mean the subjugation of those children who aren't yours. Race is created to categorize different subsets of humans, however it has become easily confused with skin colour/pigmentation. Groups of people with the same skin colour can actually vary greatly from other people with the same skin colour while sharing more similarities in physical features with a group of different skin colour. That is the fallacy of all racialist, especially race supremacists, they fail to understand this and it is why they remain a laughing stock of mainstream society. Its possible because its been achieved before, and it has been achieved in societies that already exist today. It is desirable because it will create a greater understanding and minimize conflicts, both internally and externally. It will create a more cohesive society at the both micro and macro level. Race baiters and racial supremacists will have you beleive so. This is something debatable. Racism is more openly discussed today, to its detriment. Thats not true at all. Japan has no such commissions because it does not want to deal with such problems. Japan has small ethnic groups who are oppressed and are at the low rungs of society. Luckily for them, many are intermixed and can hide their "otherness", hence blend in with Japanese society. Japan is an island with a small island isolationist culture. If in fact Japan had won WW2 against China, and the Japanese plans of settling Chinese Manchuria had materialized, the massive Japanese, Chinese and Korean race schisms would have been much easier for all to see today. Naturally it has taken 2-3 generations to intermix Japanese, Chinese and Koreans into immigrant cultures in the west where they have chosen to adopt new countries (Brazil, Jamaica, Canada). A good example is Japanese Canadians who have been here for 3 generations, and are the most likely asian group to intermarry in Canada. The Chinese and Koreans are the least, and this is simply due to their 1st generation parental traditions, which will erode within another 2 or 3generations. Not true at all. You completely fail in this argument its almost embarrassing. Racism is much worse if there is country wide separation. Germany under the NSDAP was a heavily homogeneous yet a highly racist nation, which ended up invading its neighbors and killing millions of them based on racial superiority beliefs. Polish Jews and Africans in the North African theatre of war will definitely have something to say about "racism doesn't exist in homogeneous countries". A complete fallacy that is often perpetrated by Dixiecrat segregationists and race baiters. Since the 60s end of segregation, race relations in the USA have improved greatly (unless you were pro segregationist or anti civil rights, in that case this is your worst nightmare coming true). There are now mixed neighborhoods, schools, unions, clubs, universities, workplaces and so on. Don't let a few forum comments and hate websites which represent a tiny minority let you believe otherwise. And the notion, usually put forward by the race baiters and so called self proclaimed "racialist" that blacks there have created only black organizations (other than gangs) is completely false. Even organizations like the NAACP have no restrictions for light skinned people.

Palin is an ideological thought-monger and Newt would be a catastrophe if he goes by what he actually says. The Republicans need someone level headed, Palin is an idiot. Once an idiot... It's that simple. The Republicans could use someone level headed like congressman Mark Sanford, a true conservative in the traditional sense. Low taxes, smaller leaner military, less foreign intervention, low or no trade barriers, the real conservative stuff not this warped racial, war mongering religious ideology it seems to have become lately.

Europe has no major immigration policy, and the number of immigrants going to Europe is negligible compared to Canada or America's immigration pattern. What the voters are really lashing out without realizing it is Europe's failed economic policies. Its bloc mentality protectionism is causing its manufacturing sector to a steady decline especially in traditional industrial countries such as Germany. Compounded by the fact that the global financial sector is in turmoil, this has left many economies in Europe to grind to a halt or even recede (6% GDP regression in the 1st Q of 2009 for Germany). Angela Merkel's administration has blasted Obama's economic stimulus, however it is Germany which is in a steadier decline than America. Germany is in a slow but steady decline in terms of total output comparative to real growth, and it is why many Germans over the past decade are feeling more job insecurity than they are traditionally used to. This is partly due to the EU bloc's failure to adjust its global trade policies. This leads to my all time favorite,” social unrest”. Turning to fringe parties to solve the problems of a nation. It is easier in parliamentary systems than in presidential ones. Britain’s over reliance on its financial sector (60% of GDP is service and finance) has led to a complete disaster, and it’s no wonder the people are looking to turn to a different party. I wouldn’t be surprised if the BNP gets a few seats in the inevitable general elections. It is very important for Europe not to isolate itself now more than ever. Europe's traditional commodity partner has been the African bloc of nations and Russia. However as Africans themselves turn ever more towards China, South America and India, this is leaving Europeans out in the cold and their manufacturers are struggling to compete with the rising prices and emerging powers for resources on the continent, even to domestic nations such as South Africa, Tanzania and Sudan which are also throwing their hats in. Russia has been warming up more to China and India and the Middle East, and it is leaving Europeans baffled and mostly bewildered (see recent gas pipeline rows and trade relations with Iran and China). It comes back to lashing out. Lashing over demographic change? It is possible that Europeans are lashing out partly due to demographics (as they did in South Africa with the introduction of Apartheid to protect the 'white race' in Africa), but its evident much of it is economics policy induced. If Europe isolates itself it will become poorer, and the only people who will be afraid of a poor Europe is Europeans (see what isolation has done to Albania, Belarus, Moldova, Macedonia, Serbia and a slew of other European banana republic’s).

The Rightist Parties in the European Parliament are not even free trade parties, they are nationalists. It is a massive difference in ideology between them and conservative parties in the Americas. Many of them believe in Euro-centric policy making that is more aligned to the economical beliefs of the 1800s than 21st century. The BNP for example has won 2 seats, yet the BNP is not a free trade party. They are opposed to most forms of free trade. They believe in home based manufacturing and employment policy that expenses their neighbors and trade partners (in economics this is called ‘beggar thy neighbor’). Many of these parties believe that Europe (as in the EU trading bloc) should receive raw materials (mostly cheap) from overseas, the manufacturing process should take place in Europe, and they should then be shipped back to wherever the natural resources were acquired from for the purpose of selling. This worked in the 1800s as Europe was industrializing and they controlled most of South America, India, and Africa, but in the 2000s this is impossible without a major and costly acquisition (i.e. gunboat diplomacy) of overseas territory, or coercion into keeping the price of raw materials artificially low in opposition to free market prices. What the Europeans are voting in apparently it seems is not free trade, but mercantilism. It seems they are lashing out more against foreigners than giving thumbs up for free trade and free markets over government control and socialism. What they are voting for is not more open markets, but a closed EU protectionist bloc. This will work against them in the long run as the BRIC countries (Brazil, Russia, India, and China), African nations, and various others such as Canada and Mexico continue to lower global trade barriers, equalizing prices of commodities across the globe while continuing to allocate manufacturing in a more efficient manner.

Competent candidates are weeded out by the ruling elites before the election campaign gets underway.