G Huxley
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Are those values and that resulting culture important to preserve? Not really. Both evolve over time as Canada's society evolves. I would not say that our culture - whatever that is - or our values - whatever those are - need to be preserved in amber for all time.
Well then let's get overrun by more mainland Chinese, solution solved!
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Of course it isn't. There are 38 mainland Chinese to a single Canadian. China's environment is completely devastated. Chinese tourists in Tibet take photos of the sky, because they've never seen a blue sky before in their lives. The Asian Tiger is now almost extinct. This is the future you are supporting for Canada.
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It's not cheating the system in even the remotest. The rule is, and has been for a very loong time, if born in Canada then Canadian citizenship goes right along with it (foreign nationals serving foriegn governments excepted). Tourism has been around for a very long time too. This isn't some new thing.
So why are you upset now? Whats different now? Nothing.
This should obviously be revoked. So tell us again Peter F, why you think Canada should give away citizenship like candy and yet you have no criticism for Beijing for being protectionist of Chinese citizenship?
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Of course we foot thier medical bills. Should they ever come and live here they will be citizens and all citizens get thier medical bills almost entirely paid for by the taxpayer . Even you. Most certainly me. ... and every other Canadian citizen.
The difference is we spend our whole lives paying taxes, while they just reap the benefits in old age.
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Ah yes. The Chinese and their third world country.
You want Canada to be a massively overpopulated and over polluted megalopolis?
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You do know that their parents don't get instant citizenship, right? They actually have to apply like every other immigrant, Canadian child or not.
Its alot easier when you already have a foot in the door and children that are citizens obvious.
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I don't think jokes and giggles have as much power as you think they have.
Its a real joke when we have to foot their medical bills and those of their aging parents.
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They're not getting around the immigration system. Not even in the slightest.
Oh no, not at all, getting your kids instant citizenship simply because you came here as a tourist isn't cheating the system at all.
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Just to clarify my position on citizenship by birth, since it seems some keep bringing up that the parents of the newborn may just be tourists, as if they are trying to get to where I would draw a line. Let me provide an imagined scenario in which citizenship by birth would still stand.
A woman is pregnant in some other country somewhere. She thinks it would be really cool if she gave birth in Canada so's she, at cocktail parties, could mention that her child is also a Canadian! Wouldn't that be the coolest thing?. So the time comes and off to Canada she goes (maybe at her own cost, maybe at somebody else's cost, whatever). She gives birth to a fine child, and then returns to her home country.
At future gatherings she and her peers laugh and giggle at the fact that Canada allowed her child to have Canadian citizenship. Silly Canada!
To my mind the citizenship stands. Even then!
So Canadian citizenship is worth a joke at a cocktail party abroad? Yeah you really value this country.
In fact I find this an insult to my ancestors who helped forge this country, fought and died for it. Is this what they struggled for, fought and died for a joke by some ingrate at a cocktail party abroad? A joke on our behalf and generosity?
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like Cyber says. I hold china to the standard of "I don't give a shit why, how or when" they grant citizenship. I do care about those things regarding Canada granting citizenship.
Then if you don't care about China and its citizenship process why are you so staunch in allowing Chinese to get around the immigration system in Canada?
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He doesn't live in China so of course he doesn't care about their citizenship process. It's completely irrelevant. Hell, why not talk about the citizenship process in Namibia or Azerbaijan? Because it's stupid and irrelevant just like the citizenship laws in China. We're not Chinese. We don't live their. Their laws don't apply to us or our country.
Their immigration laws are actually more intelligent.
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Nope. China grants citizenship to whoever they want whenever it pleases them to do so.
Oh so you hold China to a different standard which you do to Canada making your position on Canada hypocritical to say the least.
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A great report on Citizenship Reform Proosal.
It outlines associated costs and various proposals as well as the pros and cons for each proposal.
Always boiling things down to alleged monetary gain. Is that what our society is based on? Well then we might as well just rape the rest of the earth's environment if that is the case. Full steam ahead! like in China.
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What deal? Did anyone make a deal with the government of china about reciprocal citizenship-granting mechanisms? Has anyone proposed such? Do you suppose that Canada has and does grant citizenship to all the babies in the hopes of other nations reciprocating?
So are you criticizing the government of China for not allowing our children to be given citizenship if born there?
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You want to base Canadian legislation on Communist China now?
No, but I think they should at the very least reciprocate if we are giving them this amazing deal which we shouldn't be giving them.
If they aren't willing to reciprocate then we sure as hell shouldn't give them this opportunity which we shouldn't be giving them anyway. Even their government has enough sense to try to limit their population of 1.35 billion people!!!
To put that into perspective the population of Canada (which already includes numerous Chinese) would fit into the population of China 38 times!!!!
But there aren't enough Chinese in the world according to some that we need to house even more here.
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I have no idea. Nor do I care. China makes its own rules and Canada is not required to dance to whatever laws other countries may or may not implement.
Oh that's funny. So China likely doesn't allow us to get our children citizenship if we give birth while on Holiday in China, yet we are supposed to allow the Chinese to get citizenship if they are on holiday here?
That's a pretty foul uneven and unfair deal don't you think?
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Peter F. Does China allow anyone born there to have citizenship instantly regardless of nationality?
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Its called gentrification. Its also a major problem where I live in Victoria which is getting bought out in plain sight by mainland Chinese.
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So why are they so racist that they are going against the will of their own Chinese government? Also why are we promoting population increase? We should be lowering the population.
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It's completely ridiculous. The angst about all this. Watch out. The Asians are coming!!!
Was it ridiculous that the Natives were appalled when the Europeans come? Was it ridiculous when the Greeks were appalled that the Persians were pouring in? It is not ridiculous to defend your country. There are 1.3 billion Chinese if they hadn't completely ruined their own environment, they wouldn't need to overrun our country.
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Our government sets standards for Canada - you set standards for yourself. Speak for yourself and your standards - especially when you choose to hide who you are. Lots of far right wing "heritage" organizations who agree with you - they are considered racist.
Are the Japanese racist for not letting in immigrants?
How many immigrants are permitted Chinese citizenship?
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These assaults on anchor babies are incredibly racist.
These assaults on people who are already Canadians are racist. If they weren't racist, then they would stay in their own countries. Why are these Chinese so racist that they consider their country not good enough to have their children be citizens there? Racists.
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It is nonsense. They could also become innovative entrepreneurs creating high paying jobs in Canada.
And further destroying the environment in the process.
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I guess it's only when you evolve into an Earthling that you realize just how picayune all this citizenship stuff sounds, especially in a global economy.
How does trashing the earth make you an evolved earthling?
26 birth houses identified used by Mainland Chinese.
in Federal Politics in Canada
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Of course, in fact its amazing such people are so naive. Not to mention that, but China has massive ghost cities left right and center which were built for pure speculation.
http://www.wired.com/2016/02/kai-caemmerer-unborn-cities/
Maybe instead of sending more mainland Chinese to overrun Canada and the rest of the world as a part of the new strategy of global Sinopoly, they should populate their own ghost cities.