Sir Bandelot

Hypothetical situation: Police come across a bunch of people smoking pot. Two of them are observed sharing a joint. The other two, were waiting to smoke it. Two other people did not smoke it, but knew that it was there. One person who smoked it earlier, left the scene before police arrived. Which of these people can be prosecuted? By Canadian law, please...

Here's some footage of the CSIS interrogation of Omar Khadr:

I'm curious as to the ethnic descent, of those that DO support the monarchy in this thread. Yours is clear to us now, and thus self-explanatory. Anyone else who's a staunch monarchist care to share your ethnic descent with us? Just curious...

Your post demonstrates a weakness in being tied down to a system that is too wide-spread, requires too many differing factions to unanimously agree in order for effectual change to take place. While you yourself agree the change would be a positive one, you admit that it's unlikely to happen because of the inherent dilemma. Exactly why it is better to be more independent and determine our own unique sense of fairness and justice, and the ability to revise and change laws when necessary, as dictated by circumstance. Any system that is so mired in tradition that it cannot adapt, even when people agree that it's necessary, does not serve the people. It becomes a hindrance based on a mere abstraction.

Bob in a Messerschmitt ME-109...

Well then why do you want those jobs back, hmm? Of course it does. Greed is what makes people take away someone elses future. Your CEO's sold out the American work force when they outsourced to places like Canada, Mexico, China, India, Pakistan. Anywhere they could increase the profit margin. Cause they want the money NOW, get it? I know you do. And now we have today. I'm not shedding tears. What we have today is fine by me. Because I've always known if you give the greedy enough time they will eat their own guts out. The snake eats its own tail, and not it's come full circle. Hell yeah, this is great. And it's only the beginning...

You'll have to talk to your capitalist mentors about that. Canada did not force them to outsource. They did it for their own reasons. Done for the benefit of good old USA, as is their legitimate right, by your own reckoning from other discussions. Why is it not so good for you, now? This is what happens when you only think about what you want, right now. Not considering that you might be ok with a bit less today, for the sake of long term sustainability. Greed makes you do things like that.

100,000 jobs in engineering. You have any idea how many people are unemployed? About 14 million in the US alone. Lots of middle-aged people lost their jobs recently. Companies took the bailout money, then proceeded to let go of thousands of skilled workers. they weren't engineers. Auto workers for example. Maybe they should just go back to school, eh? It's always easy to criticise others and make excuses, when things are going well for ourselves.

Good lord man, you really have gone over the top with this. you would compare rape, a horrible act that completely violates another persons rights, with people who are ill due to drug addiction? That's just... daft. It's the only word for it. Well no I can think of a few others... Real scientific evidence was presented. Evidence that is accepted by experts in Canada, and recognised in other progressive countries around the world. Very little counter-evidence was provided by the government, and it came from disreputable sources. The supreme court decision was based on the merits of real scientific data. Not ideology. Precisely what this government refuses to do.

Those are things judges are selected to do. Especially, supreme court judges. They are given broad powers to use their judgement to interpret areas of law that may be affected by constitutionality issues. Not everything in the law is simply black/white, hence the role of the supreme court. Oddly, while I'm sure you are completely aghast at the concept, I'm thrilled with it. Real justice is not meted out with a sledgehammer, it's done by allowing people who are judges to think and use... wait for it... their judgment. And I welcome the notion that the law should concern itself with matters that affect the safety of society at large, ie. primarily criminal matters, not what fully grown adults want to do with each other, in their bedroom. That includes what they willingly want to eat, drink, smoke, or ... OH YES IT IS!!! Someone has to make sure that the government is compliant with Canadian law. If some rogue administration seeking to enforce its own ideology gets elected, and starts to break said laws, we the people have a means to challenge them. We have courts. We have judges. It's called democracy. Keeping checks and balances on their power. Rubbish. You have it completely backwards. It is the Conservatives who are listening to junk science, who have refused to listen to the recommendations of scientists and medical professionals, who seek to implement mandatory minimums despite all evidence presented to them to the contrary. They're the ones who need to be kept under check, they are ideological fools and in the end it will be their own political undoing.

please die...

In your dreams, old boy

So then you have rebutted your own earlier statement. Thank you, my work is done here

Bahh. And when the people believed Obama would bring about the kind of changes he promised, what happened? Nothing, same old same old. Even if he really meant those things he promised. the problem is not as simple as getting elected. It is far more entrenched than that. Obama could not do it. Why would you expect that someone coming from the grass roots, with far less capital backing them up would be able to achieve more.

What about, the top 0.5%

Soon. It will be when they discover that their parents pensions have been stolen, those who worked hard all their life for a slice of that American pie. The disparity arises when people realize that they put in the work, and won't be getting what was promised, while others ride the gravy train all the way to hell. I'm not talking about poor getting handouts, I'm talking about rich helping themselves to what was never theirs. Meanwhile today's youth don't even have that option. They go to college, pay big bucks for tuition only to find jobs are ever more scarce. We outsourced their future. Seeing how the system is lawless and cannot be trusted, why would they even want to believe in it, and invest work and money that will only be taken away at the whim of the elite. Therefor the protests continue to spread.

Some went on to be Popes...

I'm with you there. In relation to the topic of this thread, I think what pisses off the masses is that while they must take their medicine, pay off their debts which is fair, they see that others have been given a bailout when they've already been making the big money for many years, and taking fancy vacations. People want justice. They want to see their tax money go to paying out national debts and getting the economy back on its feet again. I am willing to pay my fair share, but not if the money gets wasted so that shareholders can maintain their privileged percentages, despite other failings. They gotta pay their share too. Oh and same goes for reduction in wages. <Insert "Dreamer... you silly little dreamer...">

I think that all around the world, given the option people prefer products that are procured ethically and without undo damage to the environment. This has to do with sustainability. Obviously when there is no alternative we will buy whatever is the only option, but the consumers of the future want ethical consumption. Increasingly, the consumer is demanding it and companies would be wise to pay attention. Those that use this as part of their marketing strategy will do well, and eventually succeed over others, especially if they can also be competitive in terms of quality and economy.

If caught in the act of using, they are in possession and would be charged with possession. Even if not using, but simply possessing the charge is the same. There is no aggravated charge added due to using. The charge is possession whether the weed is lit or not. But we've been through this enough now, it's really become more than tiresome.

Right, perhaps but intoxication by cannabis is not as easy to prove as alcohol. Breathalyzer will not work. Blood tests can be argued in court by a lawyer. But point is, charges are not possession, not trafficking, not production.

Technically this was about "post-use", ie. you just finished off your roach, so weeds all gone, but your eyes are red and you're laughing at everything the cop is saying. Indictable?

Hell I don't blame them for rejecting the offer. The unions are corrupt and in bed with management. They do not hold the workers interests, they've become an entity unto themselves. They sustain themselves on the backs of labour. And as such, are just another burden for the workers to bear. Even when gains towards equality have been made, there will always be continuous pressure to undo and bring power back to the control of the elite class. The union leaders have been bought out. They exclude themselves from the working class itself only seek to gain their own privileges. They once had a place and a purpose, but there are no trade unions now, only labour unions. Our last two contracts were pitiful, they were an insult. Yet the workforce was told to accept it, it's the best we can do. Meanwhile management continues to increase their income, as evidenced by the growing lists of names in the annual report of Ontario's "$100,000 dollar club". We may yet have to resort to a Marxist solution. Sublime revolution, my brothers and sisters. And that's what we're seeing happening now. This is only the beginning.

Cool Cap, go for it! I knew there was a little socialist in you, just waiting to come out.

You make it sound so simple. But realistically, have you seen how prices are going up? Look at food costs in the past 3 years. Prices have gone up in some cases by about 30%. My wages are practically stagnant. How can we lower wages? No, that's not in the solution. Actually I believe the system is broken and will only continue to decline.