Sir Bandelot

Maybe Robert McNamara. Although technically he did not start the war...

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In some countries treason is a capital offence. Wonder what the chances are, if Khadr gets a trial that he could face execution? I mean if tried by the US, either government or military.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8194230.stm

From the same article- "This was not the first foray into French by Cheney and his boss." Hmmm

I thought they now control more than 50% of Afghanistan. Map as of June 2009: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8046577.stm

Great, enjoy the well deserved rest.

I know that he has been there. A few times now, I believe (?). I was only asking out of interest, not to make you look stupid

Last he told us, he is back home right now. is AG re-deployed?

Ditto that. It's all part of the continual hyped up smear campaign that is politics. These kind of shenanigans are designed to target the lowest common denominator, the politically disconnected, marginally educated voter. IE, The political retards

Correct. Prisoners of War have certain immunities from prosecution, mercenaries and other criminals involved in hostilities do not. But I thought that you have denied this in other threads, hmm? Is that not so? In any case it seems to me that the US government denies that gitmo detainees have POW status, since it would grant them certain rights that they don't want them to have. This classification would cause some problems for his prosecution. "To be entitled to prisoner-of-war status, captured service members must be lawful combatants entitled to combatant's privilege—which gives them immunity from punishment for crimes constituting lawful acts of war, e.g., killing enemy troops."

Dancer has merely employed the "useful idiot" theory. And done well

This says much about the level of corruption in our system.

Democratic opposition to terror trials grows Eighteen senators, including two Democrats and one Independent, unveiled a bill Tuesday to withhold funding the President requested to try terror suspects in civilian courts. "It's an unusual thing we're doing here," said Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-CT. "We are trying to use Congress' power of the purse to stop these trials." Democratic sources said the way Republican Senator-elect Scott Brown successfully used this issue against his Democratic opponent in last month's Massachusetts Senate race has spooked some congressional Democrats. "I'm not going to vote for $200 million dollar more in security if we can try them in a place where you don't have to spend that money, not at a time when you have to cut funding for a lot of worthy things," said Bayh. Count not thy chickens

You know that I haven't been ignoring them, as my own threads attest. That is the cost, certainly the most significant part of it. It doesn't answer the second part, is it worth it. I don't know if ANYONE can answer that at this point, in fairness. My personal feeling on the matter is, no. We should not be sending Canadian boys thousands of kilometers from home, to do what muslim boys ought to be doing for themselves. Helping them, training them, yes. Dieing for them, no. I sincerely regret every life that's been lost, but part of me still hopes that this will be not be all for nothing.

To beat others down, therebye making ourselves look superior.

It does not matter much to me, either way. I think it's like BC says, gays have been in the military all along, and in other roles in society like politics, policing, teaching, and medicine. So to pretend that they need to be restricted, is a "phallacy"... Question is though, does this mean that we'll now see bare chests and loincloths in the military parades?

Thanks... I'll try to remember that as I'm fill out my income tax in the next few weeks.

Sadly you may be right this could be the outcome, which will have a lot of people quite angry, myself included. Although I do want Khadr or anyone to get a real trial and to be judged, what I don't want is this kind of BS, that is just another form of injustice. Fact is, if that does happen I would blame the government(s) who cocked this up. Maybe some of THEM should go to jail as well, for idiotic incompetence that results in the release of potentially harmful persons back into society, complete with multi-million dollar cash awards. I have no doubt this is exactly why Harper doesn't want to touch it. But ignoring it as they have up until now is even MORE irresponsible, and damaging in the long run. But it might be too late now to stop the inevitable. Khadr might never be judged, if it comes down to release because of legal mishandling. Thus the only option is to keep him incarcerated indefinitely without trial, which in itself undermines the very idea of effective justice.

No, he didn't. I think the timeline of events is clear. From the quote- "Thus foreign powers were involved in both the installation and restoration of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi." I don't get it pooch. Where did we cross our lines on this. Or are you just blowing smoke (again)

I have no idea what your on about. Why should I not believe that. "Reza Shah was deposed in 1941 by an invasion of allied British and Soviet troops who believed him to be sympathetic with the allies' enemy Nazi Germany." One sentence above the paragraph I pasted from link. Where's the inconsistency in this fact? Why canst Johnny read? (thrown in for your amusement)

Right, we could just bomb them into the stone age, if we wanted to. Complete annihilation and subjugation. But it appears we don't want to do that. We want to "transform" it. Black and white is easy, this is far harder. So question is, can we achieve THAT, what is the cost and will it ultimately be worth it.

I heard about this long before Wikipedia even existed, story told to me by an Iranian friend. He lived there. Anecdotal, I know. We can dispute the sources for our knowledge of history, all we want. And get nowhere. Peoples perception is all thats needed to make revolutions happen, not actual facts.

Well, I don't claim to be expert on these things like you might do, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_Iranian_Revolution#Shah_comes_to_power