Moonbox
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I'm guessing, and hoping that the Tories will lose seats. There were a number of Tory candidates that wouldn't go to debates and people were angry at that.
The candidates stopped going to the debates because they were attended largely by loud obnoxious morons who didn't have anywhere better to be. Going to a debate and being booed every time you opened your mouth by a partisan fringe group of unemployed wack-jobs or students is in no way productive. I know the debates in Guelph and the KW region were an absolute farce and nobody took them seriously because of how rude the attendees were. There's a reason the televised debate didn't have an audience.
He has support in Alberta, Saskatchewan and maybe Manitoba but that's it. It could be close and because of the polls, I think more voters, soft Tory and Liberals will vote NDP to get Harper out of there.
Aren't you forgetting Ontario, where the Tories have been polling @ 40%, with probably closer to 60% outside of the GTA? There's also Atlantic Canada, where they're polling around 30-35%.
Support for the CPC is far more widespread than any other party in Canada. LPC support is almost non-existant outside of Montreal and Toronto. The NDP is reviled in Ontario outside of dt Toronto, Hamilton and Northern Ontario. They'll get a smattering of seats west of Ontario and their support will largely be concentrated in Quebec, if at all.
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Was the number blocked? I'd imagine so.
I'm sure it was I wasn't the one who took the call. Anyone but an idiot won't fall for it. The people who do probably shouldn't be voting anyways....
I kid I kid. Everyone should vote....but still....
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Moe conservative tricks.
LoL Battletoads you're a joke. What are you basing that on?
It's likely just some pissed off fringe looney with a chip on his shoulder.
We received one of these calls actually. I found that rather funny because we'd already voted in the advance polls.
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I can guarantee you that there's an NDP surge in NB, but it's highly unlikely that it will translate into seats. Anecdotally, I can tell you the NDP has people talking. I can't see them overthrowing any of the ridings, though. They'll keep the one they have and that's it. Who knows, though? There could be surprises tonight.
I wonder, however, if this talk about Jack will actually help the Conservatives. There are a lot of red tories still in the Liberal Party and how many of them will jump to support Harper simply out of fear of wacko Jacko? I can guarantee you that there are a LOT of anxious people here in Ontario. Outside of dt Toronto, Hamilton and a few crapholes in northern Ontario, NDP is VERY poorly regarded.
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My protest is based on the fact that I don't think the Tories can form a majority, not on anything else.
Okay well PIK's guess isn't far off what the polling companies are predicting. His guess is at least supported by some of the data we have thus far. What you think is going to happen in the election isn't really based on anything but what you think and with all due respect is no less idiotic than the prediction PIK made.
I don't think they have the numbers. I think it's likely they won't lose a lot of seats, but I can't see them crossing that line.
They're polling at almost exactly the same place they were on the eve of the last election and now the opposition parties have to contend with a vote split.
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And by what fantasy do you concoct that result? Do you just make idiotic numbers up that make you feel better?
A compilation of the polling companies are suggesting similar results. Are you freaking out because you don't like the results, or is your protest based on something?
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What I'm saying is some people think the Conservatives is the same party but just drop the "progressive" which we know is not the same party just USING the name to get support. This conservative is made up of CRAP, with the most of the crap, the reform/alliance party and Harper the head of it.
I'd rather associate with Harper's conservatives than with Mulroney the crook. Thanks for distinguishing.
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I'm going to go with:
158 seats for the CPC
75 seats for the NDP
50 seats for the LPC
25 seats for the bloc
Nittany your 130 seat projection for the NDP looks like pure fantasy. Even EKOS, the polling company with the most generous NDP numbers and least generous CPC numbers, is predicting at worst 133 seats for the Cons and 115 for the dips.
All of the other polling companies are predicting between 143-160 seats for the CPC, with a nasty vote split for the NDP and Liberals. If the results end up around the 150 mark for them, there's a good chance you might have Liberals and Bloc members who narrowly won vs CPC candidates cross the floor to keep Jacko irrelevant and make sure we don't have another election soon.
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Do you understand how amortization works ? If our planned purchase is 65 for ~29 billion over thirty years, that’s just under 1 billion a year right? During this time, we’ll also have to fund replacements for our navy, which will likely be double the cost of the jets, SAR replacement, APC/IFV replacement, Aurora MPA replacement etc, on a budget half of the Japanese. This is our own fault for allowing rust-out to have occurred.
Please don't speak to me about numbers or amortization. I work with those sorts of numbers for a living and would dance circles around most people in that regard. Every piece of military equipment in service has a cost amortization. It really has nothing to do with our argument either.
Now using the 6x Japanese purchase, that’s roughly ~ 175 billion or 5.5-6 billion over 30 years on a budget ~ double ours…if halved to equal our budget….it will roughly be what we’ll be paying for the fighters and frigates alone.
This is what we call 'mental gymnastics'. You've presented a bunch of numbers to us that seem really interesting, but mean absolutely nothing. What does Canada's replacement cost of their navy have to do with what a Japanese fighter purchase will be? Japan has a navy 10x the size of ours, which will also need to be replaced, and takes up a large part of their military budget.
There's the numbers, I've provided a link stating the Japanese we're intrested in an aircraft (F-22) more expensive then JSF, which they felt would suit their requirments, but the US government won't allow to be exported.
Again, the Japanese are going to buy more fighters. That's a given. Nowhere is there any indication of an intention to purchase 400 F-35's, or F-22's for that matter. You're making a case for the red herring award.
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Its all about the money all of the time. Reform had good cost fiscal ideas, and right now harper has the best economic platform. I don't care how he treats the gnomes in the cpc party, just deliver on the economy. If it starts to suck, vote him out or stay home. And during harper's tenure he has done a good job running the economy. He can be the biggest jerk to his party. Its not like he's all of a sudden a dictator.
Pretty much exactly how I feel about politics.
Also...I already voted and it wasn't Liberal.
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And I still contend that they have stated an obvious need for such aircraft, and unlike us, they have three possible direct threats to their country, all within a few hours flight time.
If 65 aircraft is enough for our air force to equip two gun squadrons and one training squadron (plus a small reserve) to maintain our commitments to NORAD and allow 6-8 aircraft to be deployed on an overseas mission, one can see Japan’s need are a great deal larger.
Dude. Look at the numbers. The money. It ALWAYS boils down to money. You can list all of the neat numbers you want but they make not a token of difference unless the money is there.
Japan's GDP is about 3x what ours is. Their military spending is a little more than 2x what ours is.
Japan JUST bought 100 aircraft at $100M/unit that their citizens are pissed about already. They JUST had a catastrophic disaster that will take them years to recover from.
Do the math. Please. They don't have the cash for 400 F-35's and there's been ZERO evidence that they're looking to expand their airforce spending by 400%. One last time: Go over the numbers and the money. It is not there.
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Shit Harper did:
My friend from highschool helped start that website. He's a bit of a loon.
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globe and Mail -center....the Sun, my local version is waaaay to the right, a stupid tabloid written for stupid people with high school or less education...for the National Post to be seen as left wing you would need to somewhere to the right of Francisco Franco
I always thought the Toronto Sun was pretty left. I haven't read it in forever because I felt it was for idiots.
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Now that you mention it, there were a lot of Liberal and Cosnervative voters among students when I went to a typical "leftist" university. So maybe you're right.
Except that the demographics and numbers don't support that at all. Nice try buddy. Hope you're not hurting yourself with comebacks like that.
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Ignatief is done. Canada made up their minds about him a long time ago and he's not going to change that much. The LPC can't afford another outing like this one.
As for him working with Jack as PM, that's really not going to happen. That would spell the end of the Liberal Party.
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Correction, you are making fools of yourselves.
I'll try not to get too upset over what you say.
In the meantime...I'm going to watch this again and laugh at how big of a tool this guy is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11zIvtJ6jak&feature=player_embedded
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Are you telling me that the Sun, the Globe and Mail, the National Post are not left-wing? Aaargh
The Globe and Mail is the only newspaper in Canada that I don't feel has an enormous bias. The National Post is right leaning for sure. The Sun is left leaning.
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If you’re in the market for a Corvette, and you’ve stated as much to the dealer, and the dealer would like to see you in that Corvette, why would you waste your own time and that of the dealer if you can’t afford it?
I guess the Japanese could be the nation state equivalent of a twenty year old looking for a joyride.
The Japanese will likely buy some F-35's. I'm not contesting that. I'm contesting your scenario where they buy 6x as many as Canada does when they already have 100 brand new 100 million dollar fighters and their defense budget isn't a heck of a lot bigger than Canada's.
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You guys really need to quit reading Karl Rove's book on How to Effective Destroy a Country Through Inane Personal Attacks in Politics.
We're just making fun of the guy. There's a lot to laugh about. Stop taking it so personal and get on with your life.
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Is it just me or has Ignatieff fallen off the map over the last 5 days or so? The Liberal camp seems awfully quiet. No commercials. No statements to the media. It seems like they've all but disappeared since the photo deal. Maybe I'm wrong. Any ideas?
I think the Liberal camp has thrown in the towel. A clear sign of this is that they're campaigning hard in Liberal ridings in and around Toronto. He's campaigning in what should have been sure bets for the Liberals but his inept campaign has left him on the defensive.
He was in Guelph yesterday, of all places, defending a well liked and well respected incumbent in Frank Valeriote against an unknown rookie CPC candidate with very next to no political background.
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yup I heard the same from a journalist who spoke with some conservative insiders, they put on a brave confident show but they're very worried, without a majority it's going to be PM Jack...and ya the conservatives would prefer to have the election sooner than later because everyday the ndp keeps sucking in more liberal votes, were this campaign to go to May 7th we might be looking at a ndp majority...
Oh I can't wait for tomorrow to see you eat crow.
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Is that your way of eating crow after whining about the left-wing media after all these years and then watching them all endorse the CPC?
They have endorsed the CPC of late because the Liberal brand is in shambles and the only other alternative is a joke party in the NDP.
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I agree. Stop attacking Layton personally and go back to focusing on his economics.
Oh seriously. His personality is all he's got. His economics are pathetic and someone like you, who professes to be a fiscal conservative, defending him is pretty laughable. Layton's numbers aren't just questionable, they're outright lies and as far as I know there isn't a reputable economist out there supporting him or his 'policies'.
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What the hell are you even talking about?
It looks like we're walking into another minority situation
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What a sage and intellectual response.
What about the article do you take issue with? You can rail against it all you want, but tell us why his predictions make no sense, rather than wet your bed over it because you don't like what he's saying.