charter.rights

First of all the OMB hasn't taken too long in the first place. As we can see from the municipal approval process it has taken 12 years to get to a municipal decision. This seems very much a complicated negotiation probably with multiple agencies involved. 2 years to go to the OMB is not unrealistic and is very much the developer's delay. You see, the OMB can be called within a 3 month notice, if both parties are prepared. It is a quasi-judicial panel (with only 1 member required) that must permit due-process, follow judicial rules of evidence and cross-examination, and full disclosure. If it has taken 2 years more than likely the information provided to council wasn't enough. Developers going ahead without all the approvals should be hammered by the courts. Otherwise why would we entrust the Planning Act, the Conservation Authorities Act, The Building Code Act and all the other regulations and by-laws to protect us? Vigilantism and anarchy is not the way to go in planning matters. I do know that the Court of Appeal ruled on a similar case where a builder went ahead constructing without permits. The City of Mississauga was taking 1 year to issue permits at the time and the developer complained they couldn't wait any longer. The lower court ruled that the developer was aware of the time required and should planned his construction accordingly. His appeal was denied.

No one cares about what concerns you. Canada doesn't have any land. All lands are under treaty with First Nations, or subject to consultation with First Nations. In fact the reverse is true. All land Canada claims is on native lands. Check out the Royal Proclamation 1763. It says so.

You are truly out of touch with what is going on in Canada, let alone Ontario. Ontario has already started to return lands...Ipperwash, Birtch Tract @ Six Nations etc and some others they have settled for, such as Toronto (Mississauga of New Credit); Turton-Penn Tract and many more. Crown land is expendable - especially when there is no legitimate surrender in the first place. And you know what? This has been going on for decades, right under the noses of Ontarians. If you had been reading this thread instead of trying to insert your misinformed opinions, you might have caught where according to Haudenosaunee law, settler / homesteaders have occupancy rights. That does not mean that the province or feds can lay claim to Six Nations territory, but Six Nations has been clear that no one will be evicted. However, parks, conservation lands, and provincial forested areas are prime plots for restoring to First Nations control. Just like Ipperwash was this year. What it boils down to is that you are playing the clown here, since everything I have mentioned is already taking place. You haven't a clue because unless you are somehow attached to the claims negotiations, the government will not inform you. And what else is news to you is that the Supreme Court of Canada continues to strengthen the claims of First Nations rights. We see aboriginal case after case reach the SCoC and their appeals confirmed, not only with respect to rights, but with respect to refined interpretations of the law that brought them there in the first place. Yes. You are out of touch. So you go be angry in your sulking corner and let the rest of us keep the world informed about what is really going on.

Nah. We're only talking about Six Nations "trust account". If you want to add land values into it then there isn't enough money in the treasury for that. The fact that the government has been facing is that their policy has been to only give money. However, since there was no mistake and land was never surrendered, the only way to settle large claims is to give land back. And don't forget that the Supreme Court has ruled that that loss of use must also be paid for unsurrendered lands. You can be upset about it all you want, but the fact remains that this polishing of the Silver Covenant Chain Treaty is a renewal of the principles that were entrenched in the Royal Proclamation 1763. All native lands cannot be used without proper consultation, negotiation and reconciliation of all accounts. Finally, the claims are already being settled. However, the Conservative government has been focused on the smaller claims because they think it will set precedent for the larger ones. Unfortunately they are as wrong about that as they were with the economy.

Small c makes a valid point on the Crown. However, the government of Canada already recognizes that the Six Nations trust is somewhere between $200 billion and $500 billion. They just use different calculation methods. However, government accountants have already suggested that the government's figures are low. Six Nations accountants came to the nearly $1 trillion account based on compounded interest that goes back over 200 years. The claims ARE already realize. It is just the paperwork that needs to catch up.

The very simple end of it is that when the lease is up, the cottage is no longer yours. Under the terms of the leases, the cottages would revert with the land to the owners. In the case of the Chippewas of Nawash, the cottagers had 2 years to remove personal effects before they were evicted. The band did not renew the lease and the cottages lost all their cottages.

First of all the Haudenosaunee (Six Nations) have a right of occupancy law within their Great Law of Peace (Constitution) that give the right to use land that is occupied by homesteaders for the purposes of making a reasonable living (i.e. farming, limited resource harvesting etc.). However, it does not give the rights to corporations, or to government to profit from their occupation of land, nor can the occupation rights usurp the territorial rights of Six Nations. Essentially, homesteaders can stay but corporations and industry require permission from Six Nations to operate within their territory (southern Ontario). In the past the perpetual care the Crown has offered Six Nations was accepted compensation for some of the industrial commercial uses within their territory. But lately there have been squabbles over the government claiming ownership over the land and refusing to force companies that do not consult with Six Nations, off the land. Not including current claims to parts of southern Ontario lands, the government of Canada holds a trust for leases and small surrenders that is estimated to top $1 trillion. The interest on those monies that are calculated at interest rates set out by the Bank of Canada and INAC, amount to about $3 billion a year. Six Nations and Tyendinaga receive only about $250 million a year in transfers to maintain services, roads and infrastructure. That is a huge inequity. This new development of polishing the chain puts the government in an awkward situation concerning the lands at Caledonia, Brantford and Deseronto, in that Six Nations has maintained that no surrenders took place in accordance with the Royal Proclamation 1763, and that the land be returned. The government has only offered an insignificant sum of money. The Silver Covenant Chain Treaty suggests that disputes such as this are to be settled in the spirit of the Silver Covenant Chain.....which could mean that the government obstruction to the return of land should be dropped and they should find a way to either swap land, or give jurisdiction back entirely to Six Nations control in order to protect the honour of the Crown.

That would be silly. "The Extent of the Six Nations Territory" a line drawn along the Ottawa River to north of Nippissing, and all of southern and southwest Ontario was identified on the Mitchell Map 1757, and then again on the Royal Proclamation 1763 map. The Royal proclamation set out that no settlers or colonial interests could occupy Six Nations territory without there first being a surrender. There has never been an application to Six Nations to purchase these lands, so they are still the sovereign territory of Six Nations. The government has tried to assert that Six Nations is no longer sovereign. The renewal of the Silver Covenant Chain, which specifically identifies the independence and separate nature of the British and Six Nations is historically significant since "The Crown" has made the gesture that Six Nations are "friends" of the Crown, and not subjects. That means, along with the protections under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms that the Royal Proclamation 1763 is still in effect, and that the land rights Six Nations holds over their territory is still intact.

"Their Territory" extends from Lake Ontario and Erie to the Ottawa River and west to Lake Huron.

Nope> I posted this one first and on second thought, realized it might also generate some other types of discussion there. So fi I cross posted it was on the Rabble site.

Not when you are standing on their property.....

http://www.thewhig.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2657004postbox This has huge implications for the government. The Crown has honoured a treaty made in 1710 that defines that Six Nations are "friends" of the Crown, and not subjects. This is a historic event.

It is taken out at the top. The lower stake holders take a risk in the belief that they will get a bigger piece of the return. But in reality, those who get out first (and that includes many borderline inside traders) take it out and leave the depreciated amounts to divvy up among those less powerful. The stock market is a scam to take money from the poorer segments and give it to the rich.

Not having a distinct general Canadian culture is the first of many problems. But really, immigrants are not assimilating into the non-existent Canadian customs but rather Canada evolves to be more accommodating the immigrant's cultures and customs. Multiculturalism was the right wings way of minimizing the power of immigrants and their descendants, since by treating all different and diverse ethic groups as one big "multicultural" group, they retain the ultimate power. What the right wingers did not expect is that ethnic groups would infiltrate the higher ranks of business and government, and now threaten their power structures. Same thing with women. The predominant white male managers now have to compete for their jobs and promotions with women and immigrants who are granted equality in the workplace. Pretty soon the white male manager dominance will be a thing of the past. However, his resentment and self-pity will linger on for some time I believe....

Yawntarians don't vote. They patronize anyone who shakes their hand.

The trouble with your sense of justice WB is that all the identified groups are getting away with taking advantage of Canadian taxpayers.Native people are not and based on treaty, agreements and moral justification, natives are entitled to the things they get, including tax-free status and protection under the Charter. Your sense of justice is skewed if you believe otherwise.

I am so tired of the Natives Anglo-white males getting a free ride on the Canadian taxpayer's money for something we simply did not do to them. I am so tired of the Natives American Corporations getting a free ride on the Canadian taxpayer's money for something we simply did not do to them. I am so tired of the Natives Oil Companies getting a free ride on the Canadian taxpayer's money for something we simply did not do to them.

Money does not "disappear" from the stock market. It is taken out at the top and those on the bottom suffer.

This kind of proof? Steve Paikin of TVO witnessed Jesse Rosenfeld a freelance journalist being attacked by police. "There are also questions being raised about the number of journalists who were arrested while covering the G20 protests. At least one journalist is reported to have been struck by police during his arrest. Jesse Rosenfeld, a Canadian activist freelance journalist, was on assignment for The Guardian when he was arrested Saturday night. Steve Paikin, host of the Agenda on TVO, witnessed the arrest and reported that Rosenfeld was punched in the stomach and then elbowed in the back when he was doubled over. Two Reuters photographers were arrested Sunday night while covering a protest near Queen West and Spadina, despite wearing prominent media badges. They were released without charges. Two National Post photographers, Brett Gundlock and Colin O'Connor, were arrested Saturday while attempting to photograph police clashing with protesters. They spent about 24 hours in custody and were both charged with obstruct peace officer and unlawful assembly. A CTV producer was also arrested and released without charge on the weekend."

See you still can't get it right. And no business is not evil. Uncontrolled corporations are akin to organized crime, that's all. Corporations are complicit. Those who didn't take a hit either made huge profits from the melt-downs, or got our money given to them by their government buddies. Take General Motors for example. They are the majority shareholder in GMAC which got caught with its pants down in the mortgage shell game of Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac fame. Being a majority shareholder they were on the hook for the billions in losses sustained by GMAC. Time to sink or swim they say. So they go the government and ask for help to keep GM afloat. Yet GM's profits were not suffering, not was their cost of production suffering. What was suffering was poor marketing and being out foxed by foreign auto makers. However, they were holding their own and still making money in the big car, big SUV and truck sectors. There was no suffrage, just manipulation of government to help them prop up their share of GMAC, so all the personal investors (read GM management holds the majority of the balance of shares in GMAC) would not lose their investments. It was all self serving and still, GM is making money. Their pre-recession deficits were the result of dealership and plant expansions all over the world - designed to hide the massive pre-recession profits they really made. GM is one company. Banks and their executives should be held accountable and penalized to manipulating the stock market to their own benefit. It is too much like insider trading when a company can hide profits, save paying taxes and then take from those who can least afford it. Hit them all over the world if need be, but penalize the whole lot. Taxing corporations puts money back into government that was taken out in the first place. Governments overspend that is true, but Harper is spending beyond his means and if this recession / depression hits us with the double whammy, then he can fully be blamed for contributing to the meltdown. If we believe in a free market economy then companies should be allowed to fail without government money, and if some high rollers get hurt, then they deserve what they get. Heavy regulation is need to protect OUR economy here in Canada. And that means going after corporations that export our jobs and import cheap products from slave economies into Canada. Globalization doesn't work because eventually we run out of new markets to cheat and slave economies start to disappear. Right now only corporate investors and managers benefit from globalization. The rest of us suffer from it. Think about this. Canada exports $16.8 billion in food and imports $12.6 billion. Without going into a huge analysis the difference represents the profit export / import corporations receive from our production / consumption. Not only are people still starving in Canada, but if we stayed home to shop, ate locally and supported local industry, that $4.2 billion (or a fraction of it) could put food on every table and work for all able-bodied. Instead the profits are handed over for elaborate parties, condos in every part of the world and expensive imported cars for a select few. It is time to stop this nonsense and get corporations to support the Canadian economy. Remove their obscene profiteering and we remove their power to destroy the world economy for their own personal gains.

Very obviously that wouldn't be the police. They think that getting into arrest mode is free reign to pummel innocent people. On top of that the police think they have the authority to restrict the freedoms guaranteed under our charter. If there is no inquiry you can bet the police will be more brutal the next time. Toadbrother. Tell that to your buddy Tim Hudak.

I'm not a socialist or anything else leftist either. Stop being a goof and get on with your mental obsessions.

Like I said a whipped cream criticism has no substance, and you are known for your miracle whip and cherry comments. No. You called yourself partisan. I was merely confirming my agreement.

That's all you have, insults? Perhaps if you got another career, you might get a better vocabulary to work with. Being a crank for some local party candidate hasn't helped you much. Give it a rest. You are close to nonsense.

I have read your posts and just because you make whipped cream criticisms of your holy party, doesn't make you non-partisan. I don't worship Iggy or anyone either, and in fact hold no political or partisan leanings. So when you talk about things you don't like about partisan thinking, you must be talking about yourself, since you closely resemble that remark.