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  1. Well you jumped in late, so you missed the good stuff posted by me and others a few days ago. We're at the ad hominem part now in the thread, so...

    No I was there, most the points were pretty weak and based on the fact the anti-pot posters in the thread couldn't understand the difference between correlation and causation. That weak point was the best ones you had and those were pretty weak especially when if you replaced the word marijuana with alcohol you would have made a point for making alcohol illegal and there is more medical evidence on every point you made about how alcohol is worse.

    Seriously just say it. It is your own ignorance that keeps your mind made up on this fact.

  2. All kinds of people use drugs, but the distinction is that these are people who use ILLEGAL drugs. That takes too long to type out. "Dopers" is much more to the point. Everyone knows what it means. Pretty sure that's why they call it dope.

    You just said you called abusers that. You can't even follow your own posts Manny. Your reasoning it running circles around your own self. Maybe go back and re read your posts because you are all over the place and haven't given one real reason why you chose to hold your opinion besides your own ignorance.

  3. But Obamacare doesn't provide healthcare for all. So yours is a false choice. Just like Obamacare is terrible legislation.

    I'll take more people having access to healthcare over less people. I know many posters here disagree I view healthcare as a human right I will take increase to that care if that is all I can get. Until you side is ready to move to something then all we can get are half assed compromises. You hate Obamacare then you better start providing an alternative because my side only gains more people everyday.

  4. I really can't quite understand why those "on the left" would support Obamacare, it is just a further expansion and strengthening of the idea that workers must be dependent on their employers for healthcare. Why should healthcare be tied to a job in the first place?

    Because if the choice is between healthcare for all even a bad plan is better then seeing people dying from being uninsured. Most on the left don't like Obamacare but we all got tired of seeing both the left (Teddy Kenndey/Nixon deal) and the Right (Hilarycare) blow up any deal on Healthcare.

  5. Presumably they have to sit there in emerg because there is nothing anyone can do about it.

    I know people who went to the hospital to get their toe nails cut. That small minority does not mean everyone or anyone else would that. Like it or not there are plenty of people in Canada who abuse our healtcare system because they have problems. That has nothing to do with anything though.

  6. Sorry but it is quite true. I can give you exact information from knowledgeable smokers about the dangers of eating marijuana. The problem is the doseage is hard to control, and when it becomes digested there can be a huge inrush of the drug into the bloodstream. This process can take up to an hour, so the drug user has difficulty gauging the effect on their brains. No brains, no brains

    First of all what you are saying is BS but this was actually something you were concerned about you would be legalization. Which is the ironic thing you keep making my argument for me. Again your problem with edibles stems from your insistence at keeping it illegals. If you legalize and regulate distribution you can make sure all pot products are the same. It would be the same as you saying illegal booze makes people go blind so we should keep that illegal. Yep home-brewed booze and moonshine done by people that don't know what they are doing is dangerous. SO WHAT?

    Your arguments are the lamest attempts at trolling I have ever seen.

  7. Bit of a red herring. The company has had at least 5 years lead time for this project. There is a school in Pennsylvania that teaches long wall mining. It would have been no problem to train Canadians for this job. Blame the Federal and Provincial governments who allow this sort of thing to happen, while blabbing on about the great job opportunities they are creating for Canadians.

    Don't worry these jobs get counted as "jobs created" for the government event if not one Canadians will benefit from them.

  8. Sorry Ièm no expert. Maybe you can describe or demonstrate the technique

    Manny if you are no expert then you have no business recommending anything. The biggest problem with laws are when dummies who know nothing about the subject start making them. I don't really care about your opinion because it is fueled with "facts" that are obviously lies. They don't even have a grain of truth so when it comes to public opinion they will be easy to break down and dismiss. Probably why only 35% of the country agrees with your opinions on pot laws. Have being in the minority because it is only so long someone with the minority opinion can keep the majority from changing the law.

  9. Rifles were used in in 323 homicides…………And those are the ones the idiot gun grabbers want to ban:

    http://www.fbi.gov/a...de-data-table-8

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    More people were murdered with knives than rifles like the AR-15.

    And some 3000 gun deaths from "Gun Unknown" although if those 3000 deaths are all hand guns you would have a good point. I got it research into these "unknown gun deaths" no wait the government can't do that because the NRA lobbied to change the rules to study guns.

  10. Sorry, no you're not gonna slip that one on me. Misdemeanor offence would be ok, but there should be a record of it. People who are dopers need to get off the drugs, that's the only way. The message or punishment should include mandatory therapy, and routine mandatory piss testing.

    On the brighter side they've come up with drugs that makes dope inneffective to your brain. I heard if you get a shot of this stuff, you can't get high anymore. That would make for a much better approach to therapy.

    Yes so Ford should go to jail then?

  11. It wouldn’t slow purchases, again you’re demonstrating your ignorance and I’m forced to question your claim to owning firearms legally in Canada, fore a licence holder here would know you’re talking out of your arse…………As such, a similar licence at the State levels that eliminates the need for background checks on firearms purchases, wouldn’t slow sales there either.

    As to being a distraction, no, it’s a viable solution offered by a Canadian firearms owner and member for nearly 20 years of the NRA……….Your alternative in the States as supported by the Administration will not happen.

    It would slow purchases. If bad guys can't get guns many good guys wouldn't want guns either. That is a hit both to the gun purchases from thugs and low lives and from people who are scared of thugs and low lives. It would really hurt gun purchases. Again the one and only solution that the gun lobby offers is more guns. Ask yourself why? Oh yah more guns means more money for gun makers. Mind their is an upside being most those guns are American made but that is beside the point.

    Your solution will not happen either Derek. Nothing that stops bad guys from buying guns to scare good guys into buying guns is going to happen. Mass shootings, stories of people stopping gun wielding maniacs, home robberies, and so on are good for business end of story. The gun lobby doesn't want it to stop it is a 24 hour a day 7 day week thing that drives gun sales. That is where the NRAs money comes from. They don't care what you think they need to sell more guns.

  12. Looks more like hundreds of revocations per year than thousands in any case its probably fair to say at least several dozen of these will involve mental illness.

    So how do doctors reports of mental illness make their way to the RCMP? Do they have to wait until an incident makes them known to police or do doctors call a hotline or something? How does the doctor know he's dealing with a gun owner?

    I think almost all revocations deal with abuse in the home. This was the only use of the gun registry, in causes of abuse the police could look up if the abuser had firearms and take them away.

  13. My proposal would eliminate background checks on firearms purchases, well also legally absolving firearms manufactures and dealers of culpability of crimes committed by their products…….

    They don't care it would slow gun purchases and hit their bottom line. The NRA know which side of their bread is buttered and by whom. Your proposal would never work and is a none starter. It is a distraction to buy time.

  14. I guess so, as long as it remains a prescription.

    Ok well at least now we have some common ground. Maybe you are against legalization I can understand that, and you want to prevent easy access I can understand that as well. What should happen to a member of society that gets caught with pot? Should it be a criminal or should it be more like a speeding ticket? You would agree that we should not ruin someones life who contributes to our society like Mayor Ford who was caught with a small amount of pot on him right?

  15. Maybe, maybe not………The NRA is supportive of CCW permits, and those in most States require a similar process to obtain as the process I outlined for my “State Licence” ………And the NRA currently has their finger in the majority of the required safety courses for CCW in all the States………Even my proposed gun licence’s mandatory safety course could build upon their current safety courses offered to youngsters.

    Nope the NRA doesn't support legislation that might slow down gun purchases. They don't care about mass shootings it drives up gun sales, (good guys need guns to defend against bad guys, bad guys need more guns because good guys now have them) that isn't me talking that is their line on this whole gun argument. They work for the money which means selling guns, it is why they are against universal background checks to. They have one solution to every problem MORE GUNS. Follow the money on this one it tells a simple story.

  16. No I don't but don't say there's no such thing as a live birth after an abortion because there is, and not all cases are therapeutic.

    I'm pro choice but with limits, however, how far do you take it and when does 'choice' end or should it. Hypothetically a woman could choose to become pregnant in order to abort and provide tissue for a loved one's treatment. Do we draw the line at that?

    I can't choose what someone does with their own body just as no one should choose what I do with mine. I set a pretty clear line.

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