Derek

If you don't want the baby put it up for adoption. Thats the best way to do it. Not death that isn't the answer. If you don't want the baby, can't give care for it, give it to a family who will. Aborting the baby isn't the answer.

All i have to say is at least Davis is out. Arnold won in a landside, so there won't be another Left-wing conspiracy to Take the election away, except for Jesse Jackson, but no one, (who is rational) will believe what that guy says. If arnold does something good with the economy, could go either way, This is going to spell good for the '04 election, California's electoral votes will be up for grabs, YES!!!

I don't get that last part Black Dog. The Native American thing is way different than palestinians. First people have changed since then. The Israelis never put Palestinians in a reservation(liberals would say yea they did). Too bad you can't see the difference, just the way you can't see the FUCKING DIFFERENCE between terrorism and defending a country. Comparing the Palestinians to the Native Americans, is ludicris. The native american's plight was a bad thing. Yes almost everyone in america accepts that. The Palestinians, have resorted to underhand shit, killing civilians, killing because they think it will bring back their land. No they are Racists. I guarentee, if they hadn't resorted to Terrorism, there would be progress in that region. Palestians, and Arab countries started it. Israel will end it. As for the land factor....Spoils of war. palestinians have got to get their shit together and stop the terrorism. Killing Civilians isn't the answer. Israel has had its mistakes, im not saying they are 100 percent innocent, But Palestine right now is defintely the problem right now

Wow your ignorance of history is astonishing. If you knew anything about what is happening in my state south dakota, colorado, etc. you would have changed that right away. Reservations, and Native Americans who are free from taxes start up Gas Stations casinos, tobacco stores, liquor stores, etc. etc. The can lower prices on the gas they sell, because they don't have to pay a tax. At heritage express (a native american owned gas station chain) can sell gas for almost 15 cents cheaper in most places. (that is not fair to other gas stations) Native americans in most cases are lazy. As far as what i see. Which, is them, in their "reservation" drinking beer, getting drunk not having a job, getting welfare and wasting their lives with the government money. These are by far some of the poorest towns in the country. In the reservations, im not generalizing, i have seen it in many different ones i have been in. You would think we were living in a third world country. How bout you back this up, instead of just saying Palestine was there first. No they weren't. You just won't accept the fact you are wrong. Don't say they were there before Israel was created because the Jewish people were there, when the whole area was primarily Jewish. Kinda Ironic. Liberals bitch about how palestine was there first, yet Israel more than 1500 years earlier was, misplaced, by the romans. When you say the Israelis are misplacing the palestinians. Haha this made me laugh. Well, i doubt it will be done peacefully, trust me i wish it could, but it can't when you have terrorism there. Well, RPGs are pretty powerful if fired accurately, they can take down helicopters. Plus suicide bombing isn't going to be taking out fighter jets, in the air, tanks etc. RPGs are more effective than suicide bombing. Plus you don't WASTE manpower

The native american thing is different because we apologized for what we did in the past. We did something bad to the Native americans and we have apologized many times. (now they get "special" treatment) Also SOME people on this forum are trying to tell me the Palestinians were there first, which is not the case, i was just trying to put in some history. Exactly, it is irrelevant. Israel was created by the UN yes, but when some 6 million + jews are killed in 5 years because of Racism i think they deserve their own homeland. Killing a palestinian boy isn't on purpose, bombing a civilian complex, isn't on purpose (unless of course there are some terrorists inside) Those are accidents, setting off your own bomb strapped to your chest, in a crowded market place IS ON PURPOSE. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT???? Iranian and Syrian terrorist camps have got to go.... Do YOU NOT AGREE? Palestinians are a bunch of cowards. I don't see jews running up to palestinian SOLDIERS (not civilians) blowing themselves up in the name of god, Do you???

Well, im not republican, i consider myself with conservative views. Though if i could vote i would vote Repub. (mostly) Lets not generalize. First of all Rush wasn't/is on drugs. If the ACCUSATIONS are true, he would have bought pain killers. Yes it is illegal but you are trying to make it sound like he was Snortin' coke, shooting herion etc. Repulican classic mode is truth&results. Not sit on my ass do nothing in office, get some oral sex. Lie about it, laugh it off, blah blah blah blah. if you libs, want to debate with some pros, go to... www.apechild.com/forum Left-winger over here says things that come to his mind and doesn't think them over too much. I learned to do it, maybe you should

As long as Arnold has a ® by his name its going to be good for republicans.

Please don't call us pinheads when you know nothing. I don't believe in this "eye for an eye" shit, and i never will. The Jewish People settled the land first. They were removed by the romans in 185 AD. Lets not get into a argument about who was there first, I am clearing the air. Israel has everyright to defend itself. The palestinians need to fight the "correct" way, and not this cowardly "blow myself up for allah" crap. America isn't going to put up with it forever. Israel doesn't want to expand. you have it all wrong. They are one of the VERY FEW nations, commited to wiping terrorists off the face of the planet. Its about time they start taking out camps. America should be doing this type of stuff also. Thats where terrorism starts the Fund. Islam Training camps. Taking those off the map=far less terrorists. Yes everyone wants peace, but that can't happen when you have the palestinians breaking Cease-fire agreements left and right. You can't have peace when palestinians target civilians. You can't have peace when you have Fund. Islam. Thats my whole point. There i said it.

I would take that chance, okay! Wouldn't you? Yes, one when he was a sophmore in highschool. Another when he was a senior in highschool. Niether of them aborted. They didn't put their kids up for adoption, and now are doing fine. I have known of others in my town, I have never known a person who has had their baby aborted, i never want to know them.

Yes you are right Hugo, many Libs will say most congressmen are greedy and self-centered, some are, most arent. Nova needs to stop TRYING to put people down also, it is plain pathetic. Rome was a republic, they are not a democracy, the only thing they had close was a sentate, but that was its courts and governing system. We shouldn't try comparing rome to the Us anymore on how they are alike.

Where should i start with this. If you take out enough terrorist camps, they are not going to keep that terrorist crap going, because the bastards will be afraid of them being blown to hell. So you think terrorists have an unlimited supply of money, huh? you are ignorant, like some people on this Forum Sharon is doing this for his country. He has had enough of this terrorist shit, Im behind Israel all the way on this one.

Well IF the Bush Admin. Lied so did Jacque Chirac, and the top dem. Leaders, (Clinton, Gore, Liberman, Daschel. Just didn't exist huh, thats all you got. They weren't there you really think saddam would destroy what he was so intent on developing the last 2 decades? You are ignorant. And I quote: "What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002 In my view this guy is the exact definition of a hypocrite. The UN debated to send in weapons inspectors, this is pathetic, saddam got his weapons out of there or buried them underneath the desert.

Finally, Isaeral is my Hero. The terrorist training camps are something the US should have gone after. Thats where all the terrorism starts, the training camps. It about damn time.

Well, War elephants weren't the superior weapons. Alexander the great was suprised when he was expanding his empire at the age of 20. He easily defeated elephants also. Hannibal's elephants never got a chance to fight the romans, because he lost all of them crossing over the mountains. He also lost half his army. Hannibal was just a courageous leader of the Carth. He was pissed at the Romans. War elephants weren't superior weapons.

Fanatic Liberalism=Socialism. Liberals on the Far left of the spectrum, want everything to be equal so on and so forth. When you say we meddel in other countries affairs, we are doing that, mostly, for human rights. Also a little for the good of our nation. The USA is the dominate "superpower" as of right now there is no others. We have to take care of the world because no one else will. I would call America a megapower not a superpower.

Yea right. The homeless got there because they are lazy. Its not hard to get a job at a gas station, Mcdonalds, etc. etc. Bill gates is the richest man, because he designed a system, in which we all use today. Today with what he pioneered, we use daily. Bill gates use to have 0 dollars. at one point before his computer business took off. Bill gates isn't the best example. Let me tell you a story of my great uncle. He was a good golfer and farmed in southern Nebraska. Early in his life, he had the option of joining the IBM team in its earliest stages, and being one of the Leaders of little team with a big dream. Instead of investing and following them he went into farming. Later he went bankrupt as he saw IBM take off into what it is today. He could have been a multi-millionaire, if not a billionaire. He had no money, and no way to support his family. He was broke, while IBM was making millions. But this story as a happy ending as he fell back on his good golfing ability and became a pro. He would have been homeless if he would have given up. Instead he worked through it. My great uncle wasn't one of the riskiest people in the world, as you can tell. That just shows the fine line that separates beggar from billionaire.

Abortion is murder. Abortion is just like going back to acient Sparta where they would leave the "weak" babies out to die. Just kill them, thats the answer. Just because it isn't out of the Mother yet doesn't mean it doesn't deserve to live, if the mother doesn't want it. The death penalty, through the judicial system, rarely goes wrong nowadays. 60 years ago i would have not supported the death penalty because of all the racism out there. Barbaric huh? Explain to me, how killing an innocent baby, before it is even born. Is not barbaric. Killing a person, who goes around raping, and strangling women. Is barbaric huh. So we should leave them in a prison untill they die. No that isn't the answer. Ending their life, (i myself, if the evidence was totally against this man, was 100% sure he was a convicted rapist, murderer would end his fucking life through the most painful torture techniques. Just so he can suffer they way his victims did.) But those are just my views

So taking away what the baby could have had is okay. Your "fetus" could have been the President. Your "fetus" could have been an NBA allstar. Your "fetus" could have been a doctor who discovers the cure for cancer. Truely pathetic you would put the baby to death, How guilty any rational thinking person would feel for doing that. Ever think, all you pro choicers what the baby could have been? If you don't want it, Put it up for adoption. Abortion is wrong and is not the answer.

China needs to get away from the whole, Taiwan thing, then i will be okay with them. I foresee that in the future china will get away from communism slowly and move more towards a mix of commocracy (sounds pretty wacked up though) to make their "communism" ideals work they will have to allow more trade, more companies coming in, and will have to show Some support for their citizens.

Afiganistan needs a little more support I think. If two canadians get killed, thats not a reason to pull out. That would make you guys look like a bunch of cowards.

Did you notice how, on the news programs tonight, they made fun of him. ABC:Rush was trying to point out that the media, excuse me (chuckle) the left-wing media.....blah blah blah He didn't mean for it to be taken that way, and that was one of his "mild" comments. Why did he get hell for it? Its because the Liberal media mostly controls television. The Lib. media has gone overboard with this story about rush. He "messes up" once and he gets hell from the Left-wing press. Pathetic Thats the one and only word that can describe it Plus im not a redneck, so don't call me it, thats stereotyping, and thats what....RACISM.

But are you the ones saying The death penalty is murder? No it isn't, its killing people who have killed. People who kill(wrongly) should be killed. Its just that simple. Its just how you view something, i view abortion as murder, but i don't view the death penalty as murder. The babies being aborted didn't kill someone, did they? You view it as the death penalty is murder, but not abortion. If you look at these two views, common sense would tell you that killing children, over killing murderer's is just plain insane.

most of this analogy can also be reversed black dog And yet some of abortion's most vocal supporters are also ones who hate the death penalty and hate the western war machine Hypocrites.

Well I agree with him saying Islam is a failure. Many "fundamentalists Islamic Militants" make islam a failure. Martyrism doesn't have to be blowing yourself up, it can be fighting for your religion can it not? But no they have to kill innocent people, Women Children for their cause. Islam is the biggest piece of shit "religion" the world has ever known. Excuse me, Fundamentalist Islam=Racism at its worst. Do you see Christians, Buddhists, Hindus blowing themselves up, NO you don't. Buddhists forbid it, so do Hindus. Christians also. Islam nowadays is running into a crowded Israeli market and screaming " FOR ALLAH" before blowing yourself, and many others to death. In my view the Schools of Fundamentalist islam should be blown off the face of the earth. I don't have a problem with the peaceful Islamic culture. Thats fine with me. But many are turning it into a "Death to America" type Culture/religion. (sorry I didn't explain that very well, Im tired)

Were you kidding about that or what. Im now confused