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Second that. Svend also wrote this: "Many of you know my partner Max. His mother Amelia gave birth to Max when she was 15 years old. She fell in love with his father, a dashing 28 year old army officer. They were married for 27 years. Under Bill C-22, they would have been committing a crime" Is Svend actually advocating that its okay for older guys to hang out with young girls, I can't believe I'm reading this crap. Didn't Canada just get its knickers in a knot over that teacher married to a Canadian, given jail time in Canada, for fondling a 15 year old girl's breast. Does Svend think this is okay too...I find it hard to believe that the NDP are actually against protecting young people.

Sounds like Who's On First...

Bingo ! I too am puzzled about it being a gay rights issue, if only leads one to believe that the 'rights' they want to see are protected, are the rights for adults to have sex with young people. They must know it comes across that way.

The CPC have said they are looking into it, the opposition seem to be in a rush to get her there - why I wonder?

From Svend's letter. http://www.queercaucus.ca/ "What the Bill IS about is very clear: it would deny 14 and 15 year old youth in Canada the right to ever legally consent to sex with anyone over 19 or 20 years of age. EVER. Surely this cannot be right. I pointed out two glaring examples of the absurdity of this law during the debate at Federal Council:"

I tend to agree with this particular point from Kofi Annan, although there a paragraph in there that ise rest of it decidedly biased against Israel. However, it makes sense that ending this conflict will help to calm things down. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.j...subContrassID=1 Annan: Ending Arab-Israeli strife would calm Muslim-West tensions By The Associated Press United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan said on Monday that any effort to stop growing violence between Islamic and Western societies must include an end to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Annan spoke after receiving a report from a high-level group of experts on ways to alleviate Muslim-Western clashes and misunderstandings. "We may wish to think of the Arab-Israeli conflict as just one regional conflict amongst many," said Annan, who will leave his post at the end of the year. "It is not. No other conflict carries such a powerful symbolic and emotional charge among people far removed from the battlefield." Annan said he would work along with his successor, Ban Ki-moon, to help implement the recommendations of the report, which called for renewed efforts toward the goal of establishing "two fully sovereign and independent states co-existing side by side in peace and security."

Well as usual, Svend is pushing his opposition to it as as " American-style agenda for criminal law changes" playing on the anti American theme again.

IMHO I doubt it would work in Ontario http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...PStory/National Rae says his leadership would lure NDP voters BILL CURRY with a report from Canadian Press OTTAWA -- Bob Rae says he can position the Liberals as the best option to take on Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Conservatives because his leadership will squeeze out the NDP. With only two weeks of campaigning left before delegates begin arriving in Montreal for the federal Liberals' leadership convention, Mr. Rae is seizing on a new poll that shows he could swing New Democratic Party voters into the Liberal camp. Canadians are "looking for a new leader who in fact could move the Liberal Party forward and clearly establish the Liberal Party as the alternative to Mr. Harper, which is the key to what we need to do to form a government," Mr. Rae said yesterday in an interview with CBC.

Good one.

Okay new thread. So here we have it again, maybe not only should the Arab States fund 'Palestine' but should take them all in, maybe they should annex the Pal. area . http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3327068,00.html Al-Zahar: We'll never recognize Israel Speaking to al-Sharq al-Awsat Palestinian foreign minister says Hamas will never agree to UN resolutions calling for two-state solution Roee Nahmias Palestinian Foreign Minister and Hamas leader Mahmoud al-Zahar told al-Sharq al-Awsat newspaper on Sunday that his group will never "repeat Fatah's mistake of recognizing Israel ." In a militant interview, which was conducted soon after the IDF's shelling of Beit Hanoun, al-Zahar explained why his group has no intension of recognizing Israel, accept a two-state solution and to accept the partition resolution adopted by the United Nations. When asked what will happen if international pressure on Hamas increases, he said: "Hamas will never change its position regardless of the pressure's intensity."

According to the news this morning, opposition MPs are pushing to send the Governer General to Kandahar - why and what is the rush? What is there to gain from this other than cheap political points. We know that if she got hurt over there it would play well for the opposition, and we know its highly likely that the terrorists would target her as she is a woman and that hurting or killing her would turn more people against the mission - she would be a prime target, more so than the PM. We also know that Harper would wear it even though it is not his war.

At last weekend's NDP federal council, delegates passed a resolution recommending that the NDP caucus oppose any legislation to increase the age of consent. Svend Robinson also wrote a letter to the federal NDP caucus urging them to vote against an increase to the age of consent. I find this hard to believe, and don't understand the opposition as a close in age clause is included.

So now you've hijacked the thread on China relations . Never in the last couple years have I read anything as spurious or malicious as your charactization of opposition to Bill C-250, not even the NDP misinterpreted it so. However, endless repetition of these views does not improve their veracity.

Am I missing something here, is up on charges or what? Did he behead somebody lately?

C-250 is an Act to amend the Criminal Code (hate propaganda) Maybe we need to rename this thread – Spinning Normie’s Web Objections to Bill C-250 have always been about hate speech, nothing else, in fact this is the only place I’ve seen it interpreted in such a way. It is quite a malicious leap to infer that Harper or anyone else condones gay bashing or murder because they object to it. 2. replaced by the following: b. if, in good faith, the person expressed or attempted to establish by an argument an opinion on a religious subject or an opinion based on a belief in a religious text; http://tinyurl.com/y3yygq Senate Debates The terms of the legislation are imprecise and unclear, such as "sexual orientation," "hatred" and associated terms like "religious subject." As these definitions evolve, as "marriage" has, they may create further difficulties for religious expression. "Sexual orientation" includes homosexuals and lesbians, of course, but does it also include bisexuals, transsexuals and cross-dressers, as well as pedophiles or bestiality? What about polygamy? How will a court subsequently define the expression "sexual orientation?" The bill threatens to infringe on long-standing freedoms of expression and religious belief, including the freedom to express reasonable disapproval of homosexual behaviour. The defences incorporated in the Criminal Code have been shown to be unreliable protection for religiously motivated speech. Bill C-250 attempts to give the members of special interest groups and the politically correct activist judiciary the power of criminal law sanction to persecute those who dare to disagree. Freedom of speech must be extended not only to those with whom we agree but also to those with whom we disagree. Prosecution, or threat of persecution, will deter the human right to freedom of expression from prevailing. Madam Justice McLachlin, with the concurrence of Mr. Justice John Sopinka and Mr. Justice Gerard LaForest, described "freedom of expression" in the Charter as the "right to let loose one's ideas on the world." She referred to the "chilling effect" on the exercise of this freedom of expression by law-abiding citizens because of the subjective concept of "hate." In her opinion, criminal sanctions do not operate as a deterrent to hate-mongers, while they chill the free expression of the ideas of "ordinary individuals who, by fear of criminal prosecutions and because of the inherent vagueness of the provision, will refrain from exercising their freedom of expression." She also said: Section 319 imposes limits on freedom of expression in relation to the search for truth, vigorous and open practical debate and the value of self-individualization. In her opinion: The hate propaganda provision raises serious questions as to whether it furthers the principles and values of social peace, individual dignity, multiculturalism, and equality. To most Canadians, the principal intent of Bill C-250 appears to be that the expression of "hurtful" words about one's sexual orientation must not be uttered; that, in effect, punishing, hurtful opinions will suppress civil liberties and truth.

Many of the so called peace protests and rallies in the U.S. are organized by International A.N.S.W.E.R. an anti-war front group for the MarxistLeninist Worker's World Party I'm not sure how much if any involvment they have in Canada. Dissent against war is legitimate but betrayal isn't, it goes beyond that when they take a conscious action against their own country in favour of another non friendly country.

It isn't necessarily either. Please provide the context... Yup.... anything and everything will be used in a smear campaign. I don't know what the comment was but likely it was something innocuous and blown out of all proportion - tactics used regularly on the Hill. More likely it was simply politically incorrect.

That'll be a frosty friday

You might as well bang your head against a brick wall, he knows Harper is none of those things, but knows how to push buttons and how to spin an issue into a negative message. Say something often enough and people start to believe it. Some people are so fixated with Harper they they have a problem differentiating fact from fiction. Harper as always had libertarian leanings but I believe he has actually described himself as a classical liberal (economics and limited gov't) - he has never been a social conservative.

oooohhh nice rant get a grip

Probably, we seem to have a proliferation of threads on identical topics.

You dug up a 1998 study with no scientists actually named? The point is there is no real agreement on the issue. http://www.livescience.com/environment/050...sun_effect.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../ixnewstop.html

Policies of 'neglected opportunities' to increase trade predate the current gov't. The CPC has stated that human rights would be prominent in the policy still being developed. Hasn't there been a recent problem with China heisting our technology; they now are peddling a Redberry, a rip off of our Blackberry. Probably a lot more to all of this than we really know. All this spinning of issues is making me dizzy -

I do not consider Harper a 'homophobe' nor anyone else who objects to SSM or voted against C-250. The word homophobia is a construct utilized by homosexuals and the left to stifle legitimate dissent and limit freedom of speech, it has become a very effective weapon mainly used as a pejorative to dismiss a valid or legitimate argument. If I accept that there is such a thing as homophia I would apply it to people who would go out and bash gays, or actively promote hatred and violence against them. I do not consider objecting to SSM as gay bashing.

I'm shocked I say - I'm shocked. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/56456.stm Scientists blame sun for global warming Climate changes such as global warming may be due to changes in the sun rather than to the release of greenhouse gases on Earth. Climatologists and astronomers speaking at the American Association for the Advancement of Science meeting in Philadelphia say the present warming may be unusual - but a mini ice age could soon follow. The sun provides all the energy that drives our climate, but it is not the constant star it might seem. Careful studies over the last 20 years show that its overall brightness and energy output increases slightly as sunspot activity rises to the peak of its 11-year cycle. And individual cycles can be more or less active. The sun is currently at its most active for 300 years. That, say scientists in Philadelphia, could be a more significant cause of global warming than the emissions of greenhouse gases that are most often blamed. The researchers point out that much of the half-a-degree rise in global temperature over the last 120 years occurred before 1940 - earlier than the biggest rise in greenhouse gas emissions......................