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Who is Harpo, I've been told that, that kind of name calling is against the rules.

This is worth a read, as the rhetoric heats up from the esteemed BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6115644.stm Chaotic world of climate truth Mike Hulme As activists organised by the group Stop Climate Chaos gather in London to demand action, one of Britain's top climate scientists says the language of chaos and catastrophe has got out of hand. Do images of climate-related chaos distort the scientific truth? Climate change is a reality, and science confirms that human activities are heavily implicated in this change. But over the last few years a new environmental phenomenon has been constructed in this country - the phenomenon of "catastrophic" climate change. It seems that mere "climate change" was not going to be bad enough, and so now it must be "catastrophic" to be worthy of attention. The increasing use of this pejorative term - and its bedfellow qualifiers "chaotic", "irreversible", "rapid" - has altered the public discourse around climate change. This discourse is now characterised by phrases such as "climate change is worse than we thought", that we are approaching "irreversible tipping in the Earth's climate", and that we are "at the point of no return". It seems that we, the professional climate scientists, who are now the (catastrophe) sceptics I have found myself increasingly chastised by climate change campaigners when my public statements and lectures on climate change have not satisfied their thirst for environmental drama and exaggerated rhetoric. snipped First, the discourse of catastrophe is a campaigning device being mobilised in the context of failing UK and Kyoto Protocol targets to reduce emissions of carbon dioxide. The signatories to this UN protocol will not deliver on their obligations. This bursting of the campaigning bubble requires a determined reaction to raise the stakes - the language of climate catastrophe nicely fits the bill. Hence we now have the militancy of the Stop Climate Chaos activists and the megaphone journalism of the Independent newspaper, with supporting rhetoric from the prime minister and senior government scientists. snipped I believe climate change is real, must be faced and action taken. But the discourse of catastrophe is in danger of tipping society onto a negative, depressive and reactionary trajectory.

Mayor Miller is now rattling his tin cup for more money from the feds. He wants the feds to abandon the plan to drop the GST another percentage point and, instead, to give the revenue generated by that to municipalities. He rejected the idea of increasing the city's revenues by collecting tolls from motorists as could be done under the City of Toronto Act Does anyone else agree with this, should Toronto get money from a future GST cut? I realize Toronto has expenditures other cities don't have, but why should the rest of the country have to support them, especially from a GST cut.

Who presupposes that someone is not fit to be an MP or hold public office if they hold a religious belief? Certainly I don't. Most of our MPs, be they Conservative, Liberal, NDP or BQ, hold religious beliefs. Religious beliefs of a politician only become a concern to me when a politician attempts to impose his or her own personal religious beliefs on ALL Canadians or attempts to deny rights to others based on those beliefs. As far as "attempts to portray Harper as a 'so-con' " are concerned, he is a so-con. The evidence for that extends beyond any religious beliefs, e.g., his desire to impose permanent criminal records on teenagers who possess even a few grams of marijuana. That's your opinion, but your in the wrong topic, quit hijacking threads.

Now, back to 'memogate' or Intrigue in Cyberspace and is it possible that the CPC candidate could gain from this and come up the middle as the Liberals up the rhetoric. http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/200...364409-sun.html Intrigue in cyberspace Wed, November 15, 2006 NDP candidate Megan Walker has contacted police over interception by the Liberals of an internal NDP memo. New Democrat Megan Walker has contacted London police in a bid to discover how Liberal rival Glen Pearson's camp obtained an internal NDP memo bragging her party was about to "bring down a Liberal" because of inappropriate web blog postings by a Pearson worker. -snip how would the Liberals get hold of an internal NDP memo? or is there an NDP mole The Pearson camp retaliated by leaking the internal NDP memo. Walker trumped that move by calling police. "We are aware interception of private communications is illegal," Walker said. "We want to find out how it was intercepted." Walker said her campaign team is working with police to give them further information about the memo. She said as of yesterday afternoon no police investigation was formally underway.....

I wasn't going to bother replying to the trolling and hijacking of threads into the same rants. Global warming isn't a myth but neither is Kyoto the answer and thats another thread. As for Darrel Reid, I don't know that much about him, or why you keep having hissy fits about him. As far as I know Darrell Reid was the Director of Research for a season when Preston Manning was Leader and from all accounts I’ve heard or read, he acquitted himself exceptionally well during that campaign and he along with his predecessor Ron MacDonald did an excellent job of laying the groundwork for Scott Reid's eventual success in 2000. After leaving the Hill, I believe Darrell did a stint as the Canadian Director of Focus on the Family, I don’t know much about this, all iIcan say so what - I've heard nothing but praise about him from those who knew him during his time in Ottawa – at least any I’ve met or heard from. Darrell evidently wrote into a paper saying that he would prefer to ban abortions and samesex marriages but clarified that he would most definitely work within party policy. Something the smear artists fail to mention. Malicious attempts to smear Darrell Reid because of his religious beliefs is bad enough, but the fact that making religion an issue when running for election puts us on very dangerous ground yet somehow the previous liberal theocracy (yes, that is what it is) sees itself as above reproach and imposes its "values" as if they are morally superior to other beliefs. What a joke! This is in keeping with the smears and attempts to to portray Harper as a ‘so-con’, which evidently pre-supposes that someone is not fit to be an MP or hold public office if they hold a religious belief. It also plays on the prejudice of those who have allready fallen into the trap of believing everything the left puts out about Harper and the CPC. Fortunately Darrel Reid is not a single issue candidate, nor are any of the others for that matter. I also share the annoyance that the same smugly sanctimonious, self adoring, inclusively shilling existential humanist theocrats that where, the 'brain trust' are willing to promote or accept ANY cultural tradition as long as it is not Christianity, or shown to be of moral benefit. This hidden agenda and single issue anti Christian stuff is liberal spin with years of dust on it. BTW these kinds of issues were debated well before the election when the Globe and Mail was conducting their smear of Christian candidates. There is a hidden agenda but it is not what every one thinks it is. Bill Graham at the time and apparantly Norman is having fits over the appointment of Darrel Reid as an aid to Rona Ambrose. Personally I would rather have someone like D. Reid representing me than a one issue smear artist like NC. - and again NC has managed to side track a top into bashing Harper etc.

Depends on your point of view, maybe its simply a divide and conquer stragegy on the part of the NDP, now known as "Memo-gate" . http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/200...351322-sun.html Still unable to explain how his campaign came into posession of an email from the NDP campaign, the Liberals are upping the rhetoric. Pearson is saying that the NDP were planning to "ruin the life" of his communications director by -- well, you know -- by releasing things the he had written on his PUBLIC blog when he was a Harper Conservative 12 months ago! Oh, and the police have been called . . . http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/200...364409-sun.html Liberal campaign has no answers for "Memo-gate" NDP candidate Megan Walker has contacted police over interception by the Liberals of an internal NDP memo. By CHIP MARTIN, FREE PRESS POLITICS REPORTER Intrigue in cyberspace New Democrat Megan Walker has contacted London police in a bid to discover how Liberal rival Glen Pearson's camp obtained an internal NDP memo bragging her party was about to "bring down a Liberal" because of inappropriate web blog postings by a Pearson worker.

The NDP are hypocrites, they pay lip service to the issue of protecting children then refuse to support a law which will help keep sexual predators away from our children. Anyway they spin this, NDP and EGALE come off as if they really want to have easier access to our children.

From Clinton's speech, looks like that ole socially conscious Clinton support us and the Afghan war. Must have Taliban Jack squirming around. http://www.pentictonherald.ca/article_2408.php Thank you) for the sacrifice and service of your troops. I’m well aware that as your losses mount, your involvement there is controversial and victory is by no means assured. But it is very different from Iraq.” “Afghanistan was the home of the perpetrators of 9-11,” Clinton said. “The entire world community endorsed through the United Nations the deposing of the Taliban, the most repressive regime on Earth. . . . “We cannot fail for two reasons. One is you don’t want the Taliban to come back in and give al-Qaida free rein. The second: because we can’t secure the country now, President (Hamid) Karzai has to make agreements with Afghan warlords. And the price of their co-operation is the freedom to grow (opium) poppies. . . . They now produce 90 per cent of the world’s opium supply.”

I don't think there's much room in the curriculum for teaching religion, maybe it could be an option in high school. Either way I find this pretty extreme, if I were a parent in that school I'd be rocking the boat big time.

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This is a hmmmm, wonder who's telling the truth in this one, the Liberal candidate or the NDPer. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...PStory/National Liberal candidate's aide steps down for on-line remarks about women, gays BILL CURRY OTTAWA -- The Liberal candidate in the London North Centre by-election is on the defensive over Internet postings of a senior staffer, who wrote that women should not be allowed to vote and made controversial remarks about gay marriage. Liberal candidate Glen Pearson said his director of communications, Dave Burghardt, agreed to step down when the candidate learned of the postings, which ran from 2004 until early this summer. Among the postings, Mr. Burghardt wrote in May, 2005, about Belinda Stronach's defection to the Liberals that: "All of this demonstrates one more reason why women shouldn't be allowed to run for office, much less vote." He also wrote that supporters of gay marriage are "making a lifelong commitment to anal sex." NDP candidate Megan Walker said she was approached by Mr. Pearson on Sunday at a campaign event. She said Mr. Pearson told her about the postings and asked that she not make an issue of them. Mr. Pearson said he dealt with the situation as soon as he became aware and denies asking the NDP candidate to "cover up" the story. He says he did tell her that he wouldn't go to the press if the shoe were on the other foot. http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/200...351316-sun.html Blog broadsides Liberal campaign Tue, November 14, 2006 By CHIP MARTIN, FREE PRESS POLITICS REPORTER A cyberspace missile has struck the Liberal byelection campaign of Glen Pearson, prompting his NDP rival to accuse him of a Liberal-style coverup and bad judgment. Dave Burghardt, one of Pearson's top volunteers, left the London-North-Centre campaign trail Sunday after his record as a blogger -- one who posts musings on the Internet -- was discovered. The New Democrats uncovered it and are using it for all it's worth in an attempt to "bring down a Liberal." A gleeful local memo to NDP headquarters, obtained by The Free Press, even suggested leaking the story nationally -- even to the Tories, because it is "gold." see also

What is amazing is that this guy had to know the rules and been fully aware that he was making waves and that his attitude wouldn't be tolerated much longer; yet he persisted to go the whole nine yards. If I were in his constituency and a conservative I think I would be quite pleased to see him go. Any party has have rules and consistency, I doubt that even dithers would have tolerated him, certainly the libertarian minded Harper didn't have to. Garth is a megalomaniac, a myth in his own mind.

Italy is battling with the issue of veils and women's right now, if you read what some Muslim leaders want its an uphill battle, women certainly have the most to lose if governments don't stand firm against the assault on rights. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6148968.stm Vatican enters Muslim veil debate y David Willey Italy has a law against wearing masks in public A senior Vatican cardinal has expressed concern over the use of some Muslim veils by Islamic immigrants in Europe. This is the first time that the Vatican has joined in the Europe-wide debate on how women who insist on wearing the veil affect the integration of Muslims. Cardinal Renato Martino said immigrants must respect the traditions, culture and religion of the nations they go to. -snip- The Italian government is trying to draw up what it calls a Charter of Common Values to get local Muslim leaders to help integrate Italy's fast-growing population. But it is hard going. At one recent meeting, a radical Muslim delegate proposed separate charters for men and for women, and favoured the death penalty. Equal rights for men and women are guaranteed, and the death penalty is banned, under the Italian constitution.

I love Brad...is the movie that bad.

This is utter nonsense, political correctness gone nuts. Does this mean In Flanders Fields cannot be taught anymore or will they just cut the part 'between the crosses row on row' so the kids don't have to see it. Removing Remembrance crosses in the name of politically correct inclusiveness demeans thr sacrifice and beliefs of the soldiers, this is nothing but religious prejudice. http://www.canada.com/components/print.asp...53-9b3ee1265c83 Crosses yanked from display Grade 3's Nov. 11 exhibit should be 'more inclusive': principal A school display on the poem In Flanders Fields included poppies and crosses. Parents at a west-end Toronto school balked this week after crosses were removed from a Remembrance Day display in the name of religious equality. When teacher Tom Ramanauskas' Grade 3 students at Swansea Public School decorated a bulletin board outside their classroom for Remembrance Day, they included the poppies and crosses symbolized in John McCrae's In Flanders Fields, a poem they had read in class. But on Thursday, the school's principal had a conversation with Mr. Ramanauskas that prompted him to drop the crosses

I tend to agree with you, I don't think one person should take all the blame there.

Betsy's posts show she's anti pedophilia, not anti Gay, big difference. Anal sex is confined to age 18 under the law, for both male and female for good reason. We know that sodomy brings a higher medical risk with it for sure.

How many American speakers have the Liberals had so far - around 3...gee imagine the stink if CPC did that - ooohhh who's taking advice from the Americans now. -

Be interesting to find out, it appears on the surface they are strictly funded by sick pedophiles. Also have to wonder why they are allowed to be in business. I know in the U.S. the ACLU has gone to bat for them http://billoreilly.com/show?action=viewTVShow&showID=52 # Factor Follow Up Segment NAMBLA & Canada The notorious North American Man-Boy Love Association is on the defensive in the United States, but apparently finds Canada less threatening. John Henry Westen of LifeSiteNews.com explained the current situation. "In Canada there are two organizations that are offshoots of NAMBLA, men who want to have sex with young boys." According to Westen, this is one more indication of Canada's liberal social trends. "Society seems to be moving in this direction. We have an age of sexual consent of 14, one of the youngest in the world, but at the same time you have to be 18 to buy cigarettes. And folks who have conservative moral values are being squelched." He mentions two, but only names one, wonder who the offshoot is. This has some info on it, but nothing I can see related to Canada, again inolvment with the ACLU http://optymyst.blogspot.com/2006/04/why-nambla-why-now.html Many people believe that NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association) is an urban legend or a South Park cartoon joke. It's not a joke. It is a group with activists who are very real, and currently involved with various groups that fight for a wide variety of causes and "struggles." They have been known to claim not-for-profit status to increase their cash flow, to intermingle funds from their list of "doing business as" companies, and there is suggestion within investigations that funds from some of the activist groups in which they operate may be diverted to their cause. Their goal is to "normalize" sexual relationships between children and adults and have these relationships accepted in the eyes of the mainstream public.

Here's some more light reading for you all. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../05/nwarm05.xml The Stern report last week predicted dire economic and social effects of unchecked global warming. In what many will see as a highly controversial polemic, Christopher Monckton disputes the 'facts' of this impending apocalypse and accuses the UN and its scientists of distorting the truth Biblical droughts, floods, plagues and extinctions? Last week, Gordon Brown and his chief economist both said global warming was the worst "market failure" ever. That loaded soundbite suggests that the "climate-change" scare is less about saving the planet than, in Jacques Chirac's chilling phrase, "creating world government". This week and next, I'll reveal how politicians, scientists and bureaucrats contrived a threat of Biblical floods, droughts, plagues, and extinctions worthier of St John the Divine than of science. Sir Nicholas Stern's report on the economics of climate change, which was published last week, says that the debate is over. It isn't. There are more greenhouse gases in the air than there were, so the world should warm a bit, but that's as far as the "consensus" goes. After the recent hysteria, you may not find the truth easy to believe. So you can find all my references and detailed calculations here. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../12/nclim12.xml and this Wrong problem, wrong solution # Readers' responses to Christopher Monckton's first article [PDF] Christopher Monckton created considerable controversy last week with his article questioning the science that claims human activity is responsible for climate change. Now he challenges the economic assumptions of the Stern report Tilting at windfarms: It would take a windfarm the size of greater Manchester to match the output of one nuclear power station In the climate change debate, one figure is real. The Sunday Telegraph's website registered more than 127,000 hits in response to last week's article revealing that the UN had minimised the sun's role in changing past and present climate, persisted in proven errors and used unsound data, questionable graphs and meretricious maths to exaggerate future warming threefold. The views of 200 readers who emailed me are in the link above. About a third are scientists, including well-known climatologists and a physicist who confirmed my calculations. Some advise governments. Nearly all condemn the "consensus". Most feel that instead of apologising, the UN has misled them, especially by using the defective "hockey-stick" temperature graph.

Good grief, 1955 and its now hypocrisy, a lot of things have changed since then, different people and different parties for one thing. Children seem to be more vulnerable too what with the internet etc. Apart from that, does Svend really want want to us not trying to protect 15 year olds from getting pregnant at 15. Back in the 80s Svend moved a motion that: the age of consent for buggery or sodomy (set at 21 years) be reduced to age 14, allegedly to conform to the age of consent for other sexual activity. (If accepted, this, of course, would have provided access to 14 year old adolescent boys by homosexual adults.) This motion was defeated thankgoodness Svend is same individual who at one time proposed lowering the age of consent to the age of 12. I find it very unsettling that these people don't seem to want to protect our young people

I beg to differ, he has not, in fact the 'social conservatives' are upset with him.

Now I will start losing sleep, wonder if it is tied in with this statement which is pretty ominous. Ahmadinejad: Israel’s destruction near http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-...3327439,00.html According to the Iranian media Monday, Iranian President Mahoud Ahmadinejad declared that Israel was destined to ‘disappearance and destruction’ at a council meeting with Iranian ministers. “The western powers created the Zionist regime in order to expand their control of the area. This regime massacres Palestinians everyday, but since this regime is against nature, we will soon witness its disappearance and destruction,” Ahmadinejad said. (AFP)

Harper probably is closer to a democrat, they really are closer to our conservatives than the GOP.