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Yes especially when you can't stand up to him or back up your arguments. .

He never really answers, "I have said that our leadership must be willing, ready, and able to make changes to the mission if necessary ", doesn't say the slightest thing. He doesn't say why Harper is unable or failing to do this. He does not explain why it would be necessary to make changes, what those changes should be and refuses to acknowledge the changes and adjustments made given the changing scenarios already, both tactically and diplomatically.. Harper just as any other leader will be willing to change. The point gerry ALWAYS avoids is actually coming out and explaining what changes? This is a great example right here: That statement says nothing and is irrelevant entirely. Army Guy never suggested anything of the sort but gerry needs to try and pen in the debate to make illusion that he had. It's a nothing statement. Flexible leadership is not the issue. The issue is Afghanistan and what to do about it. There is no issue, nor is there any evidence of an issue that the current leadership is any more or less flexible than any other. What, gerry, are the "new mission realities present"? You seem woefully slim on any idea of what the mission constitutes. What translation of ArmyGuys (or anyone) thoughts leads you to conclude that he does not believe leadership should be; can be; is or isn't, "flexible and able to adjust"? That they do not jump every time the media get's their load on doesn't mean they're not flexible. Should there be a change? What should be changed? That's the issue. This is where we see proof positive that you're only here to denounce Harper and lift up someone else. Even now, when the question about Afghanistan finally actually focuses on Afghanistan, you cannot speak to the issues that require 'flexibility', you do not speak directly to the issue of Afghanistan and it’s reality, but instead focus everything on Harper, and are only willing to spin the illusion that there is no ‘flexibility’ in the current leadership of Canada. All roads lead to Harper. What a waste of time. .

Personally I don't think there's any comparing the Liberal record of military spending fiascos to the Conservative ones, but whatever. See my edit above. .

From the article: 1. This is from the party that brought us leaky submarines and the Sea King so if we're going to listen to them now, well ok. They also wanted us to buy Russian. Ever try and get a replacement part for a Russian plane? Ever try and read Russian instruments? 2. The fact that the US 'rejected' this craft has everything to do with who win's a contract, which has much more to do with which state and which congressman is fighting for it, and little or nothing to do with 'technical concerns' and nothing to do with what we should base our decision on. 3. I can't help but reiterate my opinion that listening to the Liberals giving us military spending advice as a pretense to cover simple obstinate opposition is a little silly. Just my opinion. link .

snot an issue. snot a law. People want to beat their wives or kids or whatever they better not be surprised when they end up in jail no matter what books may say they can. Says somewhere in the bible I can kill my kids if they disobey me, (yeah it's occurred to me, so what?), but you're going to hafta face 'the Man' before you face the Big Guy. .

Nope. The simple fact is you've embarrassed yourself and it all could've been prevented had you simply been adult or man enough to admit it when you're wrong, and if you weren’t here simply to troll and insult. If you had been there would’ve been a much different reaction from me, but a friendly reaction wasn’t what you were interested in. You came here to start a fight, got the preverbal crap kicked out of you and now you cry victim. You have a lot of growing up to do. It's funny how you bring my wife into it then try and pretend you're 'too big' to bring my wife into it. .

No. BS = BS = BS. No two craps about it. That's all ft.niagra has come here with. Nothing I've countered with is BS, it's all easily verifiable and provable rebuttal. The use of the term idiot in this case is not even rhetorical or bombastic – it is the simplest definition. He's been dead wrong about 20 topics/claims in a row now and only an idiot wouldn't stop to re-evaluate after that, and only a troll would continue with more BS. If countering BS with fact amounts to an insult then why have a forum at all? .

Well then claiming we should be thankful for your defending us is just a load of crap, just as the poster indicated isn't it? Make up your mind: Either you're defending us despite your best interest so we should thank you or you're simply acting in your own self interest in which case we have nothing to thank you for....unless you figure you owe us thanks for selling you uranium or allowing your airbases here. .

Oh just STFU already, idiot. Last night it was all about us being pacafist and a bunch of other crap and I soundly beat you on every point. Now you still can't admit how much you were full of crap. Now you squirm around to find something else stupid and irrelevant. Now it's some blow-hard crap about selling booze equalling selling explosives, or legalized gambling accross the border. So what? That's what everyone flies to Atlantic city for remember? Now it's a bunch of crap about my handle. And a bunch of crap about free trade which you most likely know nothing about either. Now's it's about 'stealing' your movie work. You're an idiot. You have nothing. Continue with your idiocy. .

They dodge. We volunteer. Appearently since we don't masterbate in self-indulgent self-tribute with a half dozen new WWII movies every year and deny everyone else that makes us pacifist. .

Still can't face up to it. Still can't admit it. Still perpetuating your stereotype. You're a troll. Youre an idiot. You said at least a dozen things that were plainly incorrect and plain ignoratn yet you can't simply admit it. Bringing my wife into it won't save you boy. .

August1 My mistake. sry. .

When did I say that? Again you argue what you wish I said instead of what I did say, or even what you said. You've been continually wrong from our first exchange and it was the easiest thing in the world to prove it. I do not have a "romantic view of Canada as the defender of free world". I never said anything near that but it is so typical of guys like you to come one and spout off a dozen or so easily dismissed gems of crap and then pout about it and instead of stand up and learn something decide they're the one's being insulted and start making even more crap up! You simply couldn’t carry on a conversation like this face-to-face in the real world. The fact that one is so completely incorrect would be evident on one’s face and they simply couldn’t carry on with the response above. They’d say something like, “Yeah ok, but what about this…” or the like. Unbelievable! .

Argus = = ? That's what I argued Argus, nothing more. Why are you arguing with me? You be nice. My time is valuable. I'm not like you people. I'm loved. ( ) He came here to troll and he deserves to run away with his tail between his legs. I don't care if I've hurt our tourism. We're dying. He's sitting there insulting. Note to the mods: unlike most if you have a sincere discomfort over the way I've treated our guest, the simplest of requests will gain my immediate compliance. .

I'm doing you nothing more than a service, sir. Most would have to pay for this level of education in one hour. So that's what? About a dozen misguided myths we've managed to clear up for you? It also makes one stereotype of your own that you've managed to reinforce. That's progress. You're welcome and "Tank-Q! Kym agin!" .

Seems ignore or not gerry can't stop flaming. He started this ^^ round right here: If he was on your ignore list then why did you respond to him??? You get the prize for dumb question of the day. .

-I'm sorry but anytime someone's going to talk on and on about something they know nothing about they're an idiot. -When someone contends something that is self-evidently untrue, they're an idiot. -When someone is easily proven wrong about a number of things about a particular subject matter and refuse to re-evaluate their position, that's called being an idiot. -Calling someone a pacifist over and over again when it's self-evident they aren't (Afghanistan, bombing and sniping in Yugoslavia, Somalia – not just the 50’s and 40’s dude) is idiotic. Truth is one day you heard Rush or Coutier or some other clown call Canadians Pacifists and that was good enough for you. So much less effort required in adopting another idiots opinion instead of making your own the hard way. It take no pleasure in it, I simply call it the way I see it. In fact you’re the first poster here I’ve ever called an idiot. Congratulations. By all means: continue with your idiocy. .

Yep. And how can anyone argue that? It's a reasonable position. There are no guarantees. .

I wasn't being sarcastic jdobbin. .

Again you ignore what was said and try and argue something that was not said. I think that calls for another review: -You said you were unaware that Canadian troops were overseas then try and claim you knew they were in Afghanistan. -You thought we only had small arms. -You call us pacifists despite the self-evident fact that we aren't, (Afghanistan – which you didn’t know about, WWI, WWII [10% of our population – more than any other ally], Korea and on and on). That's called evidence boy, and it'll always trump simply repeating BS over and over again. Anytime you're ready to argue what is said instead of what you wish was said just let me know, k? Again please explain the logic behind your contention we have a 'pacifist nature' when we've engaged in practically every conflict you have. There isn't any logic to it. Just because you repeat BS over and over and over again dispite all evidence to the contrary will not make it true....it's evidence of your weak mind. It always amazes me how someone can be wrong about 40 things and still be so convinced they're right about number 41. .

He's what you call a 'grass-rooter'. Volunteers who are suckered in to spending their time circulating talking points issued by the party in order to try and start 'grassroot' movements with propaganda. It's a new thing but you better get used to it because it's only going to increase. Eventually it will ruin all forums. .

You haven't made sense even once. Lets review: You said you were unaware that Canadian troops were overseas then try and claim you knew they were in Afghanistan. You thought we only had small arms. You call us pacifists despite the self-evident fact that we aren't, (Afghanistan – which you didn’t know about, WWI, WWII [10% of our population – more than any other ally], Korea and on and on). You know you don't know what you're talking about and yet you keep on talking. You're a classic idiot-troll. .

No but it does speak to us not being pacifists which you haven't admitted you're wrong about yet. Do you know what an extradition treaty is and it's mechanics? No obviously you don't so why not shut up and quit while you're ahead. So far in the past 10 posts you've lied, displayed your complete ignorance and lack of any knowledge on a topic you're determined to convince us you know something about. Why not quit while you're ahead kid? .

More BS...You said only three posts ago you weren't aware of any Canadian troops overseas and now you claim "of course I knew". No you didn't. Now, despite Korea, Afghanistan, mobilizing 10% of our population as soldiers to go to WWII (more than any other ally) and volunteering to go to Vietnam --- IOW, in spite of the bleeding obvious you decide we have a 'pacifist nature.' You're an idiot. Plain and simple. .