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Sure can Jack!!! Believe it or not, Many people hate unions and would not consider working under thier ham-fisted rule. At the Japanese companies, they pay the workers fairly, the compensate and reward on performance, they reward efficiencies with GREAT bonuses, they offer profit sharring (HUGE inscentive in the industrialized world) and treat the employees like gold. Did i get that Jack? Did that help your understanding? Here is an Example of how poorly Unions are recived even Internally! I bolded the below portion where more than 50% (!!!) of current union workers dont LIKE the Union they are held hostage in! The Declining Popularity of Teacher Labor Unions posted by: Alix | June 07, 2012, 03:58 PM This week's recall election has thrust union special interests and teacher freedoms back into the national dialogue like never before. After a bitter campaign and an estimated $60 million spent on election efforts, the commanding win for Governor Walker illustrates an overwhelming shift in public opinion against teachers unions. As the dust settles on this historic election, it's no coincidence that according to a new public opinion poll, teacher unions nationally are reaching all-time low approval levels. In the latest national survey instituted by Harvard's Program on Education Policy and Governance and Education Next, scholars found that the share of the public with a positive view of union impact on local schools has dropped by a whopping 7% in the past year alone. Among teachers, union approval has reached an astonishing 16% decline. Whereas 58% of teachers took a positive view of unions in 2011 for example, just 43% feel the same in 2012.

Incorrecto! JAMA (Japanese Auto Manufacturers Assoc) does not even have the "big 3" on the Radar for competition. And JAMA now emplys MORE that the CAW controls in membership!

You dont recall the shutdown in the early 90's that had Chrysler ONE DAY from declaring bakruptsy do you? They held them over a barrel and brought uppon thier own demise.. Thats how and why... Hijacking and hostage techniques. I amd 100% A-OK with the recent staments and announcements of plant closures in Oshawa and other CAW driven facilities. I am 100% A-OK with buying from Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc etc who can opperate at a profit for the employees (profit sharing) all while manufacturing a better quality vehicle. Whats a fair wage for a high-school drop-out that attaches a windsheild wiper? I would say 30-35 per year. But, that can be negotiated...

And the next one, and the next one, and the next one, and the next one.. Of carse, there is EI there to catch you....

Im pretty sure its rather easy to say given the numbers,, a DECREASE is in order for the CANADIAN auto worker! Get them closer to the rest of the worlds rate and we will be again, competative. What do you not understand?

Ummm With Benefits,, they make 72 dollars an hour.. Add in the benefits that are killing the sector in Canada...

I think both parties in this case came to a "Fair Wage" agreement.. 18,000 dollars vs 71,000 plus benefits? Yes, Apples and apples!

http://www.eurofound.europa.eu/areas/qualityofwork/betterjobs/cases/it05ferrari.htm

Right here, In 2008 the Unionised workers for Ferrari made 14,000 Euro's or about 18,000 dollars... Versus 72,000 plus benefits in 2008!! On 31 March 2005, after 15 months of negotiations, a company agreement was signed by Ferrari Auto, by RSU, and by the three metalworkers’ trade union federations: Italian Federation of Blue-Collar Metalworkers (Federazione Italiana Operai Metalmeccanici (Fiom-Cgil), the Italian Federation of Metalworkers (Federazione Italiana Metalmeccanici, Fim-Cisl), and the Italian Metalworkers' Union (Unione Italiana Lavoratori Metalmeccanici, Uilm-Uil). Ferrari is currently trying to expand into international markets and needs to increase its productivity: to do this is seeks to intensify the use of its plants and make more flexible use of its workforce, by increasing the number of hours worked per week. To achieve these objectives, the trade unions and the company have established a series of flexibility rules for the use of the plant equipment; they have also instituted new shifts and working times without, however, lengthening the working week for individual workers. Moreover, the company agreement has improved the image of part-time work and has broadened opportunities for part-time work, in an attempt to assist workers to reconcile family and professional life. It took 15 months to conclude the agreement. Initially, several assemblies took place with employees and trade unions. These assemblies demanded that a higher value be placed upon part-time work, that new profiles of professionalism be created and that workers’ so-called ‘multi-functionality’ be rewarded. Negotiations then followed between trade unions and the company. However, reaching a proposal for an agreement was difficult: the company wanted to increase productivity and to introduce a further two shifts per week (in addition to the existing 15 shifts), which would require working on Saturdays and Sundays; many employees did not agree with this proposal. In the end, the social partners decided to add just one shift on Saturdays with a bonus of EUR 20, and only in those areas where productivity had to increase. On Sundays and Mondays, these employees have their rest days. Introducing a 16th shift in the week proved to be the most difficult issue in the new agreement. During negotiations, internal problems emerged between the members of the trade unions, but in the end the referendum was approved with 88% in favour. Currently, about 40 employees are working 16 shifts per week. The climate of cooperation among the social partners contributed to reaching a positive outcome without industrial action. The agreement also deals with the organisation of holidays, with the aim of combining individual needs while allowing for increasing production volumes. Workers will be able take holidays in a non-continuous manner during the course of the year. The agreement also provides for performance-related pay: it will possible for each employee to reach a pay level of around EUR 14,000 per annum in four years (2005–2008). ZING!!

We were in Iraq??!?!?! This must have been a covert mission!!!!!!! Where is the Transparency!!?!?!?! How many did we lose in Iraq?

VERY good point... And the Liberals did not take it into consideration for the Submarines purchased from Britain..

Your lost.. Look at the title of the thread.. Just a fact..

Offensive yes, Racist and bigoted? Not a one.. YOur comments are fueled with hatred. I think an appology to the forum is in order. Im sure there are many minorites on here who do not appreciate your anti-semitic comments, your comments on the aboriginals and your hatred for Catholics. And No, Im none of the above and STILL find your comments in sheer "hate".

That is a great staement and one i would agree with.. Keeping Jobs in Canada and competative is a 2 way street. Sure hope its not too late..

What a stereo type, Racism nor bigotry isnt tollerated on this forum.

It was also backed up on Power and Politics last night... And then "Power play". Kevin Oleary and Amanda lang alos covered this on a global snapshot. Youtube it. One more source not from your hated "Boss man" Mr. Wathen, chief executive officer of the Economic Development Coalition of Southwest Indiana, is quick to point out that his jurisdiction is nowhere near Muncie, Ind., That’s where Caterpillar Inc. is expected to move diesel locomotive assembly work it is shifting out of London, Ont., after a bitter lockout of its workers there in the southwestern corner of the province. Muncie, he noted, is northeast of Indianapolis and not near the four counties of Indiana and two in Kentucky that make up the southwest Indiana coalition. And he’s not here to steal jobs. “I don’t look at it as [if]we’re going up there to try to get Canadian companies not to continue to invest in Ontario,” he said. The jobs are vanishing on their own as Ontario, long renowned as a manufacturing powerhouse, confronts the unrelenting forces of globalization and the rise of the Canadian dollar, which has helped turn the province into the world’s highest-cost auto making jurisdiction.

Ok, Sooo, You dont trust "Jews" and You dont trust law-enforcement? Care to add to your racist conspirist list? Aboriginals? Maybe the dutch?

Again., Unions bargaining through Media... I love this firste sentence: " In advance of what promises to be a difficult round of collective bargaining negotiations with the Big Three this fall, the Canadian Auto Workers union (CAW) is taking aim at what it sees as the myth its members are overpaid" "At what It sees". We all know what the Union sees with the rosecolored glasses...

Also from your 2000 file to 2009: http://www.ic.gc.ca/cis-sic/cis-sic.nsf/IDE/cis-sic33611pere.html I could say ZING!!!!!!!!!!! But even im smart enough to know this data is OLD!!!!!!

Maybe you simply do not understand my position here... I will try to slow things down for you.. Your link is from the year 2000 extending till 2009. My DATA is from "Yesterday"...

Hey Teamster! I provided the Link with data. And you ask for more? Go find it yourself dude. What i provided is tangible enough! You want me to post the prefered color for Cars too? The FACTs and the topic of this discussion is "Canada is now the MOST expensive country in the worl to make Cars" and the facts are there. Did you even open the Link????????? Now go update your resume from "Door installer" to window-washer... Theres windows in more than cars.. I suggest you add felxibility in your job search

Really? Looks like the Libs would go from Leader to 3rd place! "(1) A week ago yesterday the estimable Graham Murray’s Inside Queen’s Park newsletter announced that it had “ obtained the results of a poll conducted for the Canadian Union of Public Employees – Ontario Division – by Angus Reid Public Opinion.” The poll was “in the field April 2 & 3” and “surveyed 1,500 adults.” In terms of province-wide popular vote the poll “showed 34 per cent intended to vote PC, 31 per cent NDP and 29 per cent Liberal.” A seat projection based on these numbers indicated that: “The Liberals’ 53-seat minority government would be replaced by a PC one led by Tim Hudak, with the identical number of seats — one seat short of a majority. The NDP would become the Official Opposition with 28 seats, with the Liberals slipping into third place with 26.” I sure hope there is an election. Newstalk 1010 today had a survey out that 67 percent of Ontariansactually WANT and election! I found that astounding and a strong indication of the dislike for Dalton after the recent Lies and Flip-Flops. The name "Leberal" has been decimated accross Canada andnow Ontario.

It sent a message to Canadian that the minority opposition parts are REALLY grasping at anything to keep them in the media. I mean really.. Did you watch Mulcair? I think in this "battle", the minoritie parties showed thier true dislike for democracy and a democratically appointed Majority.

I find it simply amazing that the "costs" associated in labour to manufacture a lovingly hand built Ferrari is LESS than a Canadian manufactured/assembled Chrysler Sebring! Were number 1! Were Number 1! Google the MCV Supercar.. the Canadian sexy bodied vehicle that was a "flex fuel" basedof of a Cadillac CTS motor (in 99). Completely non-manufacturable in Canada.. The Labour cost were to high.. The Car was scrapped. There is still one parked in storage in Toronto btw if your into exotic cars.. Canada can simply not manufacture due to our abour costs at an average of 74-79 dollars an hour. The Unios are waving bye-bye to thier won jobs. Its up to the Union memebers to say no to such a dictatorship when it comes to persuing contracts. Free the workers!

Hey wise ass.. 3 terms means that Canadians like him....especially with a majority to top it off.... popularity is growing! You don't? Move out to maybe da good old USA..... Pantywaste ain't what it used to be....