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That's the neo-con...AKA big-government conservative movement...and that is the problem. DITTO!

But he is a liberal! He's a socialist-democrat globalist! There are some issues that the Dems don't care for... but hell... they can't stand Liberman for some of the same things. Doesn't neoconservatism have its roots in Trokskyist socialism? Let's face it... the U.S. is socialist! Like it or not.

Guess again AW! You demorepublicraticans have been so programmed with that dialectic thought that it's incredible. You are nothing but two sides of the same coin. I have landed here after leaving another forum where because of my constant criticisms of Bush had me labled a "liberal"... now... my first day here and trying to get my feet wet... you call me a Republican! Tsk, tsk, tsk! There's a large Patriotic and Chrisitan right in the U.S. that has never had any desire for nor do they want anything to do with Bush. As a matter of fact... I can't understand why the left doesn't adore Devious Dubya! Spends more money than any two democrats, is clearly a social-democrat and a globalist. He's on the same side as the Democrats on the illegal alien issue and immigration... hell... he's even as articualte and mentally astute as Lurch Kerry... he's your perfect "Manchurian candidate." I agree that Bush had his own agenda... and that was not to LOSE more ground with blacks in this country. He had nothing to gain... regardless of what he did he was going to be criticized. They probably figured that it was less of a lost to go as opposed to not. Presuming you are a Democrat... because you've backed so heavily the actions of some that criticized Bush policy at the funeral... What do you think of Bill Clinton's comments? Did he not dig a bit on those of his own party?

Gov't Budget Surplus Hits $21B for Jan The federal government ran a $21 billion budget surplus last month, the best January showing in four years, as both spending and tax receipts set records for the month. The Treasury Department said the government spent $209 billion last month, a record amount for January and up 7.9 percent from January Government tax receipts, however, also set a record for the month of $230 billion, up 13.7 percent from January 2005. The faster growth in receipts than in spending pushed the suplus for the month to $21 billion, more than double the $8.6 billion surplus the government recorded in January 2005. It was the biggest January surplus since $43.7 billion in 2002. Link LOL! Okay... let's see... $21 billion from -$427 billion = -$406 billion!... in the red! And only for this fiscal 2006 year! What should we do with the $5.6 trillion surplus President Bush inherited? President Bush's 2006 Budget Plan http://www.afscme.org/action/fy2006.htm FACT: The United States of America is borrowing $3 billion a day! Every single day! If any citizen lived as the Federal government lives... we'd all have been bankrupted long ago!

Boy... did you just hit a homerun tml12! That short-sighted bit is running through the whole neoconservative part of the Republican party. That's why anyone that doesn't speak in glowing terms of Bush is automatically labeled a "liberal" or a "democrat." Come November the Republicans are going to learn yet again that back-stabbing the right in this country carries a price when both the Christian and patriotic right stays home or votes third party!

What line is thta? More to the point: what fucking business is it of anyone if soemone's funeral is turned into a political rally, especially if that person was, ah, political? Where do the Republicans get off dictating what's proper? Who appointed the conservative punditocracy Miss Manners? If anyone used the funeral to their own personal advantage, it was Bush. I think it's hilarious that he finally had to meet people face-to-face that he had been avoiding throughout his presidency and I'm betting the Kings would agree. A funeral is to elegize a person's life and Coretta King's life was about civil rights. She was, as you said, political. So it seems to me that it's fitting that her funeral would raise the issues that she concerned herself with throughout her life. I don't see the Kings as bowing down to someone else's definintion of "proper." In fact, I have to laugh at the idea. Seems to me the Bush supporters are whining because for once Bush was among people who aren't his supporters. But this funeral wasn't about Bush or respecting Bush. It was about Coretta King and respecting what she and her family have worked for. I wasn't sure what to make of things at first either, but the more I think about it, the more I like it and the more I'm sure Coretta would have liked it too. I'm no fan of Bush... as a matter of fact... I can't stand the sight of the s-o-b... but... in all fairness to him... had he not gone it would have been another "Katrina affair" all over again. But after they started bringing in the Iraq war and complaining about and comparing it to the N.O. response by FEMA... I think that he should have got up and left... he could have told everyone that he thought that the funeral part was over and that he didn't feel it appropriate to attend a democratic black vote gettin' rally! The dems have once again made Bush look good and themselves... well to quote the original poster of this topic... CLASSLESS!

I'm sorry... I was and have commented to a single statement by a single person... and the topic title leads one to think that it's criticizing Clinton. At least, down south, that's what it would be. Again I'm sorry if that upset you. But since you're here I would like to ask a question of you... why is any criticism of Clinton and his administration consider criticism and lawful yet any comment other than a conglomaration of glowing words of praise about Bush... is always called "Bush bashing?" Any idea? Clinton balanced the budget didn't he? At least that's what I'm told! And he did get a little on the side... that's not any different from what most men of power do, isn't it? I don't know whether they're considered bad or good but... there's my two comments on old Slick! Oh.... and one more... he was the only white dude that really fit in at the Coretta Scott King funeral!

wow, a dem and a labor union leader coming out against a republicans presidents budge plan, I can' believe it. Who's the democrat and/or labor leader? Point me to him/her!

What upset me about the whole damn affair was the constant coverage ad nauseem! All that talk by all those gas bags! If we could have harnessed all that hot air to drive wind turbines we would have cured the world's energy crisis! And the hyposcrisy of Carter! You had to have loved it! Show me a single picture of Coretta at a Carter family cook out or at one of Coretta Chitlins and bar b que get togethers! About the only thing he didn't do was don black face and come out tap danicing while singing mammy! Oh... Black Dog... ah do dey clare dat wasn a reel goodn im mah ta shun ofa sudden gen tul man... I rather enjoyed that!

I quess I should have asked... whom are you addressing? And facts to what statement? 2005 June 13 Monday US Army Lowers Recruiting Goals As Casualties Mount Army, Marines miss recruiting goals again More cash and appeals to parents, patriotism haven't reversed trend Military Recruiting, Retention Picture Looks Good By Jim Garamone American Forces Press Service WASHINGTON, Aug. 28, 2003 – Despite predictions to the contrary, Americans are continuing to volunteer for the military, and those already in service are re- enlisting at a vigorous rate. Early in the global war on terrorism, many critics predicted the United States would have to return to the draft to man the forces. But in this 30th year of the all-volunteer force, the military continues to meet recruiting and retention goals. http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Aug2003/n0..._200308281.html Nuff said?

I don’t think that the “enemy” has ever considered us a united country. And I didn’t mean for you or anyone else to think that I was painting either Saddam or Osama as victims. The point was that we… as a nation… have to come to grips with who made those two possible. While I agree that it’s best to first voice your opinion through your elected representative I have to question whether or not it is worth the trouble any more. Bush would not have been able to do half of what he has done without a complicit Congressional branch that preferred to capitulate its duty to the American public. There is a preponderance of evidence that proves this administration “cherry picked” much of the so-called proof that it used to make its case for war. Even Bush’s own words indicate that. I made the right decision based on the faulty information… give me a break. This social-democratic world hegemony is breaking the economic back of our nation. There were many other options that we could have chosen. The neocons wanted this war and they got it and now… more likely than not… we’re going to invade Syria and Iran as well. And I swear to you Insom Elvis… if I hear another damn neocon tell us that it’s going to be a cakewalk… well… best I don’t say it. I cannot for the life of me see what Americans see in Bush. Even you… who does not appear to fit the “Bushbot automaton” definition… still voice outrage at Clinton, FIVE YEARS, after he’s out of office! I ask you… is there anyone to whom bush has not lied? He ran as a conservative… he’s more to the left than Clinton would ever have dared to be! He said he was a uniter not a divider… he’s divided this nation more than at anytime since the Vietnam war! He’s overseen the biggest federal budget deficit in the HISTORY OF MANKIND! His continued servility to the Corporamerican globalist elitist class is ruining our middle and lower classes! On one hand he stands before the nation and fear mongers saying things like “mushroom clouds over America” and on the other hand refuses to do anything at all about the wide opened borders unless the American public accepts his “guest worker amnesty non-amnesty program! More than four years after 9/11! Doesn’t that make you even the least bit suspicious of the validity of the threat? What am I missing here? If you look at it like you do Clinton and Monica and Clinton’s commitment to his marriage… is it possible that Bush’s commitment to his Corporamerican Puppet masters is greater than his commitment to protect this nation? He has stomped all over the Constitution and even had the nerve to refer to it as that G-d damn piece of paper! And that doesn’t bother you? Oh… and again he flubbed it… because the constitution is written on parchment! I can’t understand this blind loyalty to Bush and his administration. I just cannot. Hell… I don’t think a supermodel could do much worse and she’d at least be a hell of a lot easier on the eyes!

No arguement here on all that. What would you like a link to?

So have I! And if you are as your nick says... moderateamerican... then you can't qualify as a Bushbot!

When are you Republicans... (might you be a Bushbot automaton?)... going to get over Clinton? You justify almost all of King George's mistakes... and they are numerous... because of Clinton. Clinton IS NO LONGER PRESIDENT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! NOT FOR FIVE YEARS NOW! You people need Clinton! I bet that you Republicans all secretly wish that Clinton was still in office so that you might never have to face the reality of the Bush record. And Insom Elvis... I don't mean this to be as harsh as it may read to you... it's just that at some point you guys have to get over Clinton! I've been battling Bushbots that try and prove that 9/11 took place because Clinton was getting head. If you say... Bush did this... they reply... well Clinton did the nasty with Monica... too wrongs don't make right any more than voting for the lesser of two evils brings about good!

Has anyone ever accused the Democrats of ever having class?

"Such a huge trade gap undercuts domestic manufacturing and destroys good U.S. jobs," said Richard Trumka, secretary-treasuer of labor's AFL-CIO. "America's gargantuan trade deficit is a weight around American workers' necks that is pulling them into a cycle of debt, bankruptcy and low-wage service jobs." Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., said the new deficit figure showed that "our trade policy is an unbelievable failure that is selling out American jobs and weakening our economy." http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060210/D8FMBL000.html NAFTA, CAFTA, GUEST WORKERS and "FREE TRADE" mean SHAFTYA!

Well said Durgan. It's incredible because for the past couple of months the press here has been saying that the military is easily meeting its recruiting goals. What everyone forgets to mention is that the military lowered the recruiting standards last year. They silver lining on this dark cloud is that soon the U.S. is going to reinstate the draft. You might remember that they also increased the age of eligibility. This is going to give a much wider range of Bushbots who beat the drums of war from the safety and comfort of their living rooms to actually get up off their arses and get a taste of what it's like getting one's arse shot at while serving the leader that they hold in such high regard.

Insom Elvis, I too am an American and to tell you the truth by these comments of yours, you are obviously either very ill-informed about our heritage and form of government or badly Bush brainwashed... or both. I don't mean to be rude but you might want to consider our own "Declaration of Independence" from another King George and his empire... "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." As one who has been actively fighting Neoconservatism for 5 years now, I resent the indirect conclusion of your comments, of which most is just regurgitated Neocon Republican Party propanganda. The United States of American was never intended to be a meddling empire promoting world social-democratic hegemony. We're not even supposed to be a democracy! We're supposed to be a representative republic! And the only vestige of representative republicanism that is left is the electoral college. Standing up to Bush's neoconservative push for social-democratic hegemony is NOT treachery... it is NOT not supporting our troops... quite the contrary... to not demand that this administration be completely transparent on all issues is unpatriotic and servile! "The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else." "Theodore Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star", 149 May 7, 1918 The truth of the matter is that Saddam Hussien, like Osama bin Ladin, was in large part made possible due to OUR government making them possible! We trained them, we armed them and we used them until we no longer had use of them. Much of what is taking place in the world today is the result of OUR failed Middle East policy! If our land is under such a severe and real threat then why doesn't Devious Dubya control our borders and throw out illegals? Why does he insist on blackmailing the American people into accepting his "guest worker amnesty" BEFORE fixing the insane "catch and release" program for all OTMs? (other than Mexican) You'd do well to take the blinders off and take a good, long, hard look around and stop living in Bushworld invented reality.

They don't crucify us for speaking the truth about Bush and his Bushbot automatons on this forum, Yank?

You can listen to Savage here... http://kprcradio.com/main.html every afternoon from 5:00-8:00 pm CST via Internet streaming... make sure that you've got your pop up blocker "off." Hush Bimbaugh and Shameless "buy my book, buy my friend's book, buy everybody's book" Vanity... wish they could be half as entertaining as Michael Savage. And when it comes to speaking the truth about raghead islamo-fascist and exposing the brainwashed Bushbots... Savage can't be beat!

In a word... NEOCONSERVATISM!