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olpfan1

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  1. it seems like you are offended at the thought the cpc are involved in this despite getting caught for doing similar things
  2. oh how cute, you are butt hurt.. are we hurting your feelings? if you are offended, report me
  3. http://thestar.blogs.com/politics/2012/02/script.html Let's go back to the December controversy over the calls made to Irwin Cotler's riding, in which constituents reported they were told that Mr. Cotler was resigning. The Conservative Party admitted that it paid the firm to do these calls and that it tightly managed what callers were supposed to say. In the process, we also learned a bit more about how these call centres work. In fact, numerous Conservative spokespersons, media outlets and the Marketing Research Intelligence Association were given copies of the script in question. Watch this interview with Nick Kouvalis of Campaign Research, in which he lays it out. He was talking about scripts too. An excerpt: "Campaign Research was hired by the party. Right? They produce a script. We know what the rules and regulations are, and the jurisdictions around the country. We make sure that's within the rules. And then we deliver the script." Note: The whole defence in the Cotler-call controversy was that these robocall firms were just calling people with the words the Conservative party supplied to them. If someone went off script, well, that wasn't the fault of Campaign Research or the party. So. What we need to see now is the script that the Conservative Party supplied to Responsive Marketing Group. The party was able to produce one for the Cotler calls controversy; I'm assuming it has the one supplied to this firm too. In fact, let's see the scripts the Conservatives wrote for all the call centres. If it's all true information, it shouldn't be a problem, right?
  4. If Harper had any integrity he'd call a full public inquiry but he doesn't so he won't the man doesnt have the courage & integrity martin had
  5. see how conservatives roll? unless you are jack layton people dont just go by their first name, what kind of professional says hes just Jeff? clearly the man did not want to give his last name this is tantamount to harrassment and its del mastro... he was about to get caught so he figured he may as well tell us what an a$$
  6. I think any ape could click on a link I didnt omit it, im on an ipod
  7. The bloc will take back Quebec to become 4th party, , Liberals will win minority government, conservatives opposition, ndp 3rd party
  8. yes they said they were looking for bin laden but months after 911 they werent "concerned" about him
  9. ya right harper saw what happened to martins libs after calling a public inquiry hes not that stupid to do the same
  10. http://m.peterboroughexaminer.com/articledisplay.aspx?e=3106797 Call it a case of mistaken Jeffs. MPP Jeff Leal sent out a heated press release Tuesday afternoon, after hearing complaints from constituents who said they received an automated phone call Monday evening. The message identified the speaker as "Jeff," and reminded them to go vote. Some residents, and Leal, assumed that the caller was an imposter claiming to be the region's MPP. Leal believed the caller was trying to annoy voters and create ill-will toward the provincial Liberal party. He vowed to find the culprit and publicly expose him or her, telling The Examiner he would leave no stone unturned until he did so. MP Dean Del Mastro read The Examiner's article online, called the newsroom and offered to overturn that stone for Leal. "It was us," Del Mastro said. "It was my campaign manager, Jeff Westlake." Del Mastro said his campaign sent out two automated phone calls, one in the morning, and one in the afternoon, to people they had identified as Conservative supporters. The message, about 10 to 12 seconds long, reminded residents that Monday was election day, and provided the campaign office's phone number in case someone needed a ride to a polling station. It's a standard practice, Del Mastro said, adding that he would be calling Leal next to sort out the confusion. [email protected]
  11. If this sticks it will stick to the cpc like ad scam with the lpc ...Maybe an ndp minority government is our best bet
  12. This guy was a crown attorney? lol, inappropriate is not the word for it http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/02/27/ns-robocalls-defence-minister.html The Conservative Party does not need to look into "robocalls" made during the last federal election any further, Defence Minister Peter MacKay says. "It's certainly not something our party condones," MacKay said Sunday of the fraudulent calls to voters. "It's inappropriate behaviour to say the least." But he told CBC News in New Glasgow, N.S., that he believes the calls directing people to wrong or non-existent polling places were isolated incidents.
  13. its illegal to say you are from elections canada when you are not
  14. http://www.thestar.com/iphone/news/canada/politics/article/1137273--conservative-scripts-misdirected-voters-in-2011-election-say-call-centre-staff OTTAWA—Callers on behalf of the federal Conservative Party were instructed in the days before last year’s election to read scripts telling voters that Elections Canada had changed their voting locations, say telephone operators who worked for a Thunder Bay-based call centre. These weren’t “robo-calls,” as automated pre-recorded voice messages as commonly known. They were live real-time calls made into ridings across Canada, the callers say. In a new twist on new growing allegations of political “dirty tricks,” three former employees of RMG — Responsive Marketing Group Inc.’s call centre in Thunder Bay — told the Star about the scripts. A fourth remembered directing people to voting stations but did not remember passing on any message that a voting station had changed. However, one employee was so concerned that something was amiss she says she reported it to her supervisor at the RMG site, to the RCMP office in Thunder Bay and to a toll-free Elections Canada number at the time. Annette Desgagné, 46, said it became clear to her — after so many people complained that the “new” voting locations made no sense or were “way the hell across town” — that the live operators were, in fact, misdirecting voters. “We’re sending people to the wrong place,” Desgagné recalled telling her supervisor. She said she has no way of knowing whether in fact the poll station locations she gave listeners were wrong addresses or phony locations. But she said the “feedback” elicited by the script was so negative, “we started getting antsy.” She said she and a few other workers at the call centre were perplexed enough that they began telling the voters they should double-check their poll location with their local Elections Canada office, which was not part of the script. Desgagné, alone, said some workers shortened their script — although they weren’t supposed to — and said “... I’m calling from Elections Canada ...” Desgagné’s recollection of the job was largely corroborated by two other women contacted Sunday by the Star. Neither wanted to be named. All worked at RMG throughout the 2011 campaign on Conservative Party voter identification and on get-out-the-vote calls. The Conservative Party of Canada, in response to Star queries Sunday, did not deny its calls may have misdirected voters but portrayed these as inadvertent mistakes. It said that, in the final five days of the 2011 campaign, calls were made only to identified Conservative supporters. Desgagné indicated it was unclear to her and her colleagues whether those being called did or didn’t support any particular party. However, calls made earlier in the campaign, say Desgagné and three other former employees, had been structured to identify voters’ party preferences. If a person identified himself as Liberal or NDP, the agent punched a button to indicate he was not a Conservative supporter, Desgagné said; if Conservative, the call was passed to a co-worker to pitch party policy or solicit donations. In an email sent Sunday evening, Conservative Party of Canada spokesman Fred Delorey said: “Elections Canada changed some poll locations during the election, which is their prerogative. Our job is to get votes out and wrong locations would hurt us, so to ensure our supporters knew where to go, we would ask them if they knew where their poll was. When they told us their poll was in a different location than was in our system, we would tell them that Elections Canada may have changed it, and give what we thought was the right address. “We made around six million calls during the Election to identify our supporters and get them out to vote.” One former RMG employee, a woman aged 24, said she thought at the time that the incorrect polling station addresses coming up on her screen were simply a “computer glitch,” so she started advising people they should check with Elections Canada to be sure. “We’re not going to give them the wrong information on purpose,” she said. She remembered the polling station script specifically instructed the callers to identify themselves as calling “on behalf of” the Conservative Party, “but not every call centre agent said it.” Calls were auto-dialled by computer. Once an individual got on the line, the live agents started to read from prepared scripts. Depending on the answers, they moved on to another part of the script. As each call ended, the computer auto-dialled the next number. The calls went to ridings across Canada; two employees said most calls went to Ontario ridings. Desgagné said every shift had a listening supervisor who could ensure the calls were going as intended and monitor listener reactions. Desgagné said she made notes around election time, thinking someone would follow up on her complaint. But she said the RCMP — she does not recall the officer’s name — told her there was nothing they could do. Nobody else followed up with her. On its website, RMG advertises itself as Canada’s largest direct-contact firm in the political sector: “We work exclusively with right-of-centre campaigns to develop fundraising and voter contact strategies that target your message to the right audience, maximize your vote-getting, and win.”
  15. Unions used to be feared, Unions used to be for the people and not themselves I used to be pro union but since I was screwed, family was screwed I say screw unions
  16. Then they attacked the wrong country.. they were all Saudis, they were being financed by Saudi money Some were even trained in Saudi Arabia attacking Afghanistan was like arresting the foot soldiers in a criminal organization but not going after the king pin (Saudi Arabia) crap like that keeps Jimmy McNulty up at night
  17. I am anti war unless my country is under attack by a foreign military or if a foreign military is attacking a close ally I don't consider 12 men in airplanes crashing into buildings a foreign military
  18. I was not in favour of the no fly zone + bombing, we had no business getting involved in a civil war I am pissed that we did
  19. I have a better reason for them to live
  20. You know though I dislike Obama I am glad he will be around for 4 more years I don't see him jumping into a war with Iran unlike the Christian values party we don't need another GWB crusades
  21. No I mean they literally died for no reason at all Afghanistan is a soldier wasteland They didn't die protecting their country, they died because they werr used as pawns by their government How can I be angry at the Taliban when we were the aggressors? do you honestly think young adults join the army cause they believe in it? they do it cause its a job Some wars need to be fought but this was not one so no they didnt fight in afghanistan so i could criticize them im not an american war mongerer like you.. you obviously were brain washed as a child that people who join the military do so because they believe in the cause and that every god damn war is justified you are frickin wrong
  22. I also want a ban of robo calling during an election, I want the calls to originate from canada too Get on it Ottawa!
  23. The polls I read indicated a Conservative minority..
  24. what? harper pro rogued parliament before they could do that Oh and BTW the CPC led by Harper & NDP and The Bloc were in cahoots to overthrow the liberal government once too so please, enough
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