iamcanadian2

We elect mice to represent us who must stand up to men with the mentality of gangsters with life long public offices that are in power for generations and are outside of the law and above public scrutiny, ethics and moral comportment.

“And remember, where you have a concentration of power in a few hands, all too frequently men with the mentality of gangsters get control. History has proven that all power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Lord Acton

Just finished speaking to a senior official in the Province of Ontario who said the Province has no authority or jurisdiction over activities of Municipalities and Regional Governments. The Acts as they currently exist has surrendered all authority of government to the Municipal levels. When you are voting for your Regional or Municipal representative you are in fact voting for the ONLY governmment you really have. Think about that when you are at the polls and voting for your municipal representative on November 13th because, as far as government in Ontario is concerned YOU HAVE NO OTHER GOVERNMENT and your Liberal or Conservative, or Green Party or NDP have absolutely no STATUS AS A GOVERNMENT at the provincial level. The Mafia-like Administration of bullies and thugs created by the government of Bill Davis in the 70's is all the Government you are ever going to have in Ontario Canada. You are up sheets creek without a paddle as a citizen of Ontario over anything governmental. The rest of the discussions on this board about politics in Canada are an excercise of futility to reflect the true plight of the average public outside of government residing in Canada. Canada is a gross fabrication of illigitimate political systems founded on the networks of illigitimate government administration popululating government, political parties and monopoly business operations with goons, thugs and bullies all working hand in hand to maintain a semblence of legitimacy that does not in all reality exist in anything governmental here.

This is all a moot point. Politicians have no power in Canada and it really does not matter what level of fake democracy we apply.

This is a biased poll. Why put two yes and one no? Why not just ask a straight forward question "Do You Want Quebec out of Canada? Yes or No No one wants to ask this most important question because everyone knows the majority vote will be YES.

It would function based on the collaborative views of the representatives alone without some hidden beuracracy of individuals sitting and running a party who are not elected by the population. Individuals are what coun't some religious-like affiliation to hundred years old party ideal run by invisible old men that would not recognize the real world if they where dropped in it today. The old party masters don't have a clue of life in todays fast paced world. We need a party that is defined by the candidates and not unelected parties.

Governement is the sum total of the people that are employed to provide government services (PERIOD) What are Elected Representatives (QUESTION MARK) They are members of the Public (i.e. people who are not part of the Government) who are elected to over see and control what government can do and can't do (PERIOD) It's time that people elected to represent the people, stop representing the government (PERIOD)

In a show of democratic bravado, Turner, Nunziata and others can very easily form an Independant Party. If there are enought dissinchanted politicians what stops a whole slew of members from any other party from crossing the floor to an independant side. Definetely history making material and probably what is needed to shake up Canada's bizzar political system of having perpetual minority government without any represesantation of the people. We don't need representatives of the government. It is the people that need representation to control government.

Because Canada polical system is a sham. We have no elected representation. We have only puppets of the entrenched bureaucracy controlling everything, includinig public opinion. Politicians are ruled by a Network of Bureacracies such as Regional Government Networks in Ontario and other large Bureacracies in every area of public service who call all the shots, make and manipulate all the laws and public opinion togerther with using the larger press by applying public spending in self-serving and nafarious ways. Canada is not a democracy. It is a unique blend of Communisim and Fascism, where the Public Services act a Communistic group that controls the rest of the population who pays for it all by applying Fascist means of control and manipulation.

Subject: 411 on Bullies & Thugs Running Ontario Regions Posted on: 18/10/2006 09:36:10 AM Message: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Halton: M.P. Garth Turner's - Memo to taxpayers: Like you, I pay property taxes in Halton. A lot of them, actually. Got my new bill last Friday, which means on June 30th and September 29th, I have to cut more cheques. So, like you, I want my property tax dollars spent on useful things – police, fire, social services, parks, or the salaries of bureaurcats and politicians who run the place. Also like you (I am sure), I don’t want my tax dollars spent buying newspaper ads telling other politicians want to do. Enter Joyce Savoline, and Brent Marshall, who run Halton Region. She’s the top politician and he’s the chief bureaucrat. This last week the two of them wrote columns published in full-page colour ads carried in at least four area newspapers. I figure that cost maybe $10,000, which is way more than my property taxes for the whole year. Now, I have two big problems with what’s happened. First is the content of these political columns, which dump all over the current federal Conservative plan to send all parents in Halton with young children $1,200 a year to help with family expenses. Instead of having every parent get this money, Halton Region wants the federal and provincial governments to hand over $23.1 million (of your tax dollars) to create just 600 new child care spaces. This would leave 34,400 children in Halton with no new child care spaces. It would leave more than 15,000 families with no extra money at all to help defray family expenses. But this cash would create new Halton Region employees who would run the child care. Is that how you want your money spent? If it is, tell me. My second big problem, is that Joyce Savoline and Brent Marshall don’t need to spend thousands of dollars to make their political views known to the federal government. All they needed to do was call me. In fact, after being elected, I asked for a meeting with the Region, went down to its headquarters building, met the Chair, and left saying I was completely open to working co-operatively with my colleagues there. I understand there is only one set of taxpayers around here, because I am one of them. Besides having my paycheque gutted for income taxes, and besides paying sales taxes, I have to make out those four property tax cheques for $1,500 each. So, as a taxpayer, when I know Halton Region leaders could have phoned me with their concerns and I would have responded, then I’m not too happy to see their personal public relations media campaign instead. I mean, what’s the point? Do they dispute the results of the last federal election? Do they think they’ll overthrow the government? Will spending the property tax dollars of Halton homeowners like me change Stephen Harper’s mind? So I called Joyce Savoline, chair of Halton, on Friday to say these things. She argued with me and ended the conversation by saying, “Garth, you will regret making this phone call.” And I do. Among other things. M.P. Garth Turner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have been speaking for years about the fact that Ontario Regional Governments are run by a gang of bullies and thugs that should be washing dishes rather than washing billions of dollars in their personal interest. quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So I called Joyce Savoline, chair of Halton, on Friday to say these things. She argued with me and ended the conversation by saying, “Garth, you will regret making this phone call.” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The answer to such a threat that any superior elected representative should be able to give someone like this is "YOUR FIRED". Absolute power should be and must be in the hands of elected representatives and the people in higher government must be in control and have authority of those in lower government. To Garth and Harper... How about shuting down regional government on account of being unconstitutional. Like with Al Capone if you can't catch them red haded at being corrupt, your take them out for tax evasion or some other reason that is easier to justify since networked organizations get too good at being corrupt, its impossible to stop them otherwise. Canada has no functional democracy at any level and we are very corrupt, which becomes evident from examples like this.

And they don't report on ANY of the Nine Ontario Regional Goverments because the Region's are the 10,000 Gorilla of Ad Revenues. The way they are interconnected with each other with the same people and family members shuffling around between them for decades, if you screw with any one Region you are screwing with all of them, as a mentality which NOBODY can withstand. So people turn away from looking at what they are doing and let them do whatever they want. This another reason to disband Regional Government because everyone is so afraid of them they don't even want to know what they are doing for fear they will have to comment or act against them as a witness. They are a Terorrist Network of Government Administrative Bullies and Thugs who have no scruples or personal integrity. They operate outside the rules and law by manipulatinig hundreds of Millions of Dollars by unsupervised public spending in the Billions of Dollars per year.

The answer is ver simple. They want to get kickbacks. The largest kickbacks come from awarding mullti-million dollar contracts. They are not happy with just hockey tickets and free lunches that public spending on office supplies and curriculum activities get them. Furthermore they don't care about educating children, which is just their excuse to get control over hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money so they can do as they please with it. They will build schools they don't need because it gives them immediate gratification, much like drug addicts, so they will get their high from using public power to scam the government of taxes in larger sums that is otherwise available from buying paper and books or increasing enrolement which aserves to diminish the amount of money they can pilfer in the future.

I don't think I am being extreem. People of Ontario are such sheep and don't stand up to bullies and thugs like the people running Conseil Scolaire Du District Centre Sud Ouest. They are a private PROFITEERING organization that are fully funded by Ontario Tax Dollars. They use the money to line their personal pockets and the pockets of their friends.

Defending French Apartheid in Ontario by using the Regious Schools as the example is a red hearing. Many of my neighbours who are Punjabi send their children to the Public Catholic School System so they can have a Religious Education and not to turn them into Catholics. The French Language Racists are not a Religious Order looking to advance positive morals and ethics that many people still belive are important for children to learn at an early age. People equating French Language Education with Religious Education is obsurd. The Segragated French Language Education System is ANTI-SOCIAL and Discriminatory in Practice. The People of Ontario MUST BE ALARMED about this taking a foot with every inch. Now they have Segragated Education and have since moved on to demanding Segragated Health Care with the same Racist based Excuses.

Ok, lets try to have a serious discussion now that you are finaly asking an intelligent question: The French-Canadians in Ontario do not see themselves like the Italian-Canadians, Greek-Canadians, Jamaincan-Canadians or any other DASH-Canadians. They feel they deserve more than every other type of Canadian. They have their Seperate School Boards, now they want their Seperate Health Care System too, both just for them. They do not want these things so that other Canadians will become French-Canadians. They want this to keep other DASH-Canadians from mixing with them or cluterring up the government services they receive. If a DASH-Canadians wants to send their Children to a French Language School, they can, which are the French Immersion Schools that the Regular Public Schools provide. The Conseil Scolaire Du Distrtict Centre Sud Ouest IS NOT LIKE THAT. They are are not only Teaching in French, they are also Administering and Running business completely in French only. English is not spoken or written by anyone anywhere and the people from Janitors to Board office clerks are exclusively French-Candians ONLY. Because there are not enough French-Canadians in Ontario to populate their Public Jobs, a majority of Administrative and Support Staff and teachers are imported/imigrated from Quebec. That 5% of Ontario's population says their first language is French, does not mean they don't ALL speak English. Whereas all of the Other Dash-Canadians may not all speak English becausse they came from other countries, the French-Canadians ALL speak English and don't NEED to have their Schools run in French because they understand English and where just fine with French Immersion for the prior 30 years. They DON'T NEED a Segragated French System to expand their distinct culture into Ontario. They can move to Quebec if its a French-Canadian Culture they want where they have a French-Health Care and School System which are just as clutered up as ours are. In Ontario French Language is an optional language and not a necessary language. The French-Canadians Racists who are using these services and demanding more Segragated Health too so Racism can become even more prevelant and legitimized for them who do not want to be part of the Multi-Cultural Fabric everyone else has, and they do not want other cultures to have their priviledges whcih they claim only for themselves. When do you see French=Canadians in Ontario claim equal language rights for all dash-Candians? When they get a Segrated French Heath Care System in Ontario, they will not let non-french speaking Canadians use them, since they would then have to line up like everyone else. These are Apartheid Systems and what they are demanding is to be SEGRAGATED and to be treatetd special and differently with priviledges over all of the Other-Canadians in Ontario. To those in their movement I say MOVE TO QUEBEC so you won't be seen as racists.

1) The School Board functions ONLY in French. Parents who don't read and writw French cannot understand enough to send their Children there. 2) All public business activity they do in Ontario is done with French speaking businesses and people. If they do business with non-french they screw them out of their money. 3) The take around $100 Million per year to run a dozen schools. 4) They pick up children 50 miles away and bus them free of charge to get students from all over at the Public Expense. 5) Their teachers, janitors, secretaries and administrators are imported from Quebec. 6) Their schools are all huge and new, without portables, and class sizes are not more than 15 to 1. 7) They take millions of dollars from the Province with the excuse of building schools and then don't use it for what it was given, and instead take the money and dole it out to their friends. A lot of provincial tax money ends up going to Quebec and even sepaaratist causes and ideals. 9) They actually advertise to get people to send children to their school so they won't mix with the Multi-Cultural Canadians and Imigrants of Ontario. 10) They are not a French Immersion School Board. They are a French Segregated School Board in Ontario, where there are very few French Speaking families. 11) They cover an area twice the size of Belgium with a dozen school at great expense to the Ontario Public Education System 12) They are a free Private School System paid for by Ontario exclusively for the French families that are immigrating out of Quebec. To name a few for now... More to come later

What I said deals with the fact that 17 terrorists with bombs in Canada can harm at best a few thousand people for at best one generation if they get away with committing illegal acts of violence. The Legislated Apartheid paractices of French Canadians in Ontario harm Millions for generations on end by removing the rights and opprtunities of other cultures that are being discriminated against so the French have advantages. Racists who want to have their own separate education system and talking about their own separate Health and those families and children who partake in these anti-social activities help distroy all equality and fairness in our "multi-cultural" society. Canada is quickly become a nation of French Speaking rulers and everyone else who must take a back seat to government and public jobs for them and their kin. The future of Canada is at stake as well as the opportunities for the children of the Non-french Multiculturals of Canada. Time for Canadians to fight back against the take over by French bilinguals with their corruption of laws and practices. The French Culture is a culture of cowards who can only advance by cheating their way over other cultures, since it lacks merit to advance above any other culture on its own strength. People who are using these school should get the message that the rest of Canadians fell you are racists and cheaters for taking advantage of us so you can have better public schools and health care that the rest at our expense. Go and move to Quebec where you will be able to have all your Public Education and Health care in French without offending the majority of the population around you here in Ontario.

When you have corrupt gangster organizations running school boards in Ontario, I think that's when people must say enough is enough. It's not racist to call racists, racists. Conseil Scolaire Du Disctrict Centre Sud Ouest is a Racist Organization and not a suitable public education system. They do more and longer lasting damage to the People of Canada than any 17 terrorists with bombs.

Putting an end to Apartheid in Ontario: There is not much that can be done by the Multicultural Canadians to deal with the Apartheid in Quebec being advanced by the group of French Speaking Canadians over there, but we in Ontario have a duty to our descendants to STOP the spread of French Apartheid into Ontario. A start is disbanding Conseil Scolaire Du District Centre Sud Ouest CSDCSO, which is the epitome of Racist Apartheid infesting Ontario under the illegitimate use of parts of the Constitution written in by French Canadians who were in power at the time 30 years ago and not yet gotten changed. The Non-French Multicultural Canadians that make up 80% of all of Canada (96% if you look only outside of Quebec), must take back from this Racist Minority Group the advances they have made over the last thirty years into Ontario. People of Ontario must do what they can to discourage fellow Canadians from using the Racist and Apartheid school system so that the system will be shut down that way. Just because they have to ability to twist the laws to get advantages, does not mean that it is right to do so. They may have the right based on some crafty laws, but that does not make it right when they do it and insult and discriminates against all other people like this system does. It’s up to the parent and students to withdraw from using these illegitimate public education system that are not meant for Public in practice.

There are many cases in Ontario where people are guilty untill they prove themselves innocent. Such as in the Ontario Employers Health and Safety Act. If a serious injury occurs on the job, the employer is deemed Guilty and fined or jailed unless they can prove they were diligent in protecting workers from injury with proper practices to make jobs safe. Government Business Administration should be the exact same way. If money is wasted or missing in Government Spending the people in charge should be considered guilty of Betrayal of Public Trust UNTIL they prove they acted reasonably diligent and responsibly with the public trust. If they can’t document diligence, honour and integrity in their activities and conduct, they should go to jail after being stripped of their personal family assets and otherwise removed from public trust permenently. It a personal responsibility thing. Individuals who have the public trust and responsability can be made accountable by being considered GUILTY UNTIL they prove their inocence when issues of public waste and mismanagement are identified under their control. The law permits this type of reverse onous and it is completely justified for issues that involve public trust and public business administration. This is no different that what occurs with employers under the Health and Safety Act, where people can go to jail and be fined for not being able to proove they deligently did their jobs with the proper amount of integrity their possitions of trust requires. Onus of proof - Health and Safety Act (5) On an inquiry by the Board into a complaint filed under subsection (2), the burden of proof that an employer or person acting on behalf of an employer did not act contrary to subsection (1) lies upon the employer or the person acting on behalf of the employer. R.S.O. 1990, c. O.1, s. 50 (5); 1998, c. 8, s. 56 (2). There can be a burden of proof but the onus of the proof must on the person with responsibity who must prove they did nothing wrong once the money is found missing or misspent that was placed in his trust, to avoid going to jail, and being made to pay back the money lost with interest, or both. If it can apply to other employment situations why can’t it be equally applied to public business officials and government spending situations?

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It's unfortunate that people tend to advance integrity in government activity where it does not in fact exist. Peel Region is the fifth highest in Canada based on the amount of money it spends and has, which exceeds $3.0 Billion Dollars. (reserves + expenditures). The others you are looking at involve the money they have but do not spend it directly. You need to subtract the amounts of the budgets because you are double counting money places like Newfoundland have in their budget who don't spend the amounts directly but download the money to municipalities and Crown Corprotions. When governments download spending, they also download power that comes from the spending. Peel Region is the 5th MOST POWERFUL Government in Canada based on spending. However I might add the MOST POWERFUL GOVERNMENT in North America because they are a Dictatorship and not a democracy by any stretch of reality if anyone bothers to look at how it works from a public scrutiny and supervisional perspective.

The Peel Region spends 1.2 billion per year. The government of Newfoundland spends 4.9 billion per year. Your facts are wrong. Money given to other organizations, boards and local governments don't count. We are talking about the money actually in their hands for their unfetered use. Not the amount entrusted to them to download to others. If Newfoundland gives money to someone else, like a police board or municipality or Crown corporation to provide governmental social serivices delivery by others those amounts don't count since they are passthrough middlemen on such transactions that do not go towards actual services under their control and discretion. Peel Region spends its money or has the more than $3.0 Billion available to spend as it pleases in amounts in reserves and that they spend. They have more money than Microsoft or GE to spend as they please. As a measure of cost of doing business Peel Region would be bigger than any Private Corporation in the World, since they only spend and do not have amounts that go towards cost of good sold.

I don't think that "Black Gangs" are a BIG problem affecting our whole country of Canada. I would think that Irish Gangs would be more of the kinds that raise concern for the wellbeing of our whole country.

These are the basic reasons Nine Ontario Regions need to be disbanded