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That is because you fail to understand what constituents racial discrimination. English speaking Canadians do constitute a race in the same manner French Canadians do. Definition of 'race' from Google Dictionary: race Noun <http://www.gstatic.com/dictionary/static/sounds/de/0/race.mp3> <http://www.gstatic.com/dictionary/static/sounds/de/0/race.mp3> races plural Each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics people of all races, colors, and creeds A group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group we Scots were a bloodthirsty race then The fact or condition of belonging to such a division or group; the qualities or characteristics associated with this people of mixed race A group or set of people or things with a common feature or features some male firefighters still regarded women as a race apart A population within a species that is distinct in some way, esp. a subspecies people have killed so many tigers that two races are probably extinct (in nontechnical use) Each of the major divisions of living creatures a member of the human race the race of birds A group of people descended from a common ancestor a prince of the race of Solomon Ancestry two coursers of ethereal race According to the United Nations <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations> conventions, there is no distinction between the term racial discrimination and ethnicity <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_group> discrimination. Legal: "the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(classification_of_human_beings)>, colour, descent <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent>, or national or ethnic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnicity> origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights> and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism So in other words 'bilingual policies' in Canada, whether federal, provincial or municiple bilingual policies, racially discriminate on the basis that bilingual policies restrict and reduce the importance and impair the recognition of the freely established national English culture/language. Bilingual policies do this by FORCING English speakers to learn an inferior regional Quebec French language in order to gain employment under jobs designated bilingual (English/French) in federal, provincial, municiple and private job markets especially in Ontario, Canada's largest 'de facto' English speaking province. Bilingualism is official in all federal institutions. (a) the Senate, ( the House of Commons, © the Library of Parliament, (c.1) the office of the Senate Ethics Officer and the office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner, (d) any federal court, (e) any board, commission or council, or other body or office, established to perform a governmental function by or pursuant to an Act of Parliament or by or under the authority of the Governor in Council, (f) a department of the Government of Canada, (g) a Crown corporation established by or pursuant to an Act of Parliament, and (h) any other body that is specified by an Act of Parliament to be an agent of Her Majesty in right of Canada or to be subject to the direction of the Governor in Council or a minister of the Crown Your definiton of significant is not the same as mine which in this case means SMALL. On a federal level this provides a legal definition for the otherwise vague requirement that services be provided in the minority official languages wherever there is "significant demand." The definition used in the regulations is complex, but basically an area of the country is served in both languages if at least 5,000 persons in that area, or 5% of the local population (whichever is smaller), belongs to that province's English or French linguistic minority population.[19] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_bilingualism_in_Canada> The French Language Services Act in Ontario for instance designates 25 areas of the province where provincial ministries and agencies are required to provide local French-language services to the public. An area is designated as a French service area if the francophone population is greater than 5,000 people or 10 per cent of the community's total population. Ten percent in my book does not warrant any type of preferential provincial linguistic treatment, nor does approx. 17% regional Francophone population, as in the case of Quebec itself. require any type of federal linguistic preference as again the percentage is small. See also Language Regimes in the Province and Territitories, for other provinces that are compelled to provide French services relating to Official Languages and the French Languages Services Act. http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/ResearchPublications/prb0638-e.htm This is unlike uni-lingual officially French Quebec where 50% of the population must be English speaking for any kind of a bilingual policy to be implemented. This explains why there is not a single bilingual policy in the entire province of Quebec. Nor is there any type of English immersion program in Quebec. 'Official languages' is the brainchild of Pierre Trudeau and his communist/socialistic/ totalitarian inspired 'just society' and is a corrupt document in itself. The official languages policy was never debated in parliament and was implemented by a Royal Commission of Inquiry on Bilingualism and Biculturalism’s recommendations, also known as a liberal Quebec French Trudeau inquiry--how convenient. Biculturalism was scrapped in favour of 'Official Multiculturalism'. Remember Pierre Trudeau's quote: "There is no way two ethnic groups in one country can be made equal before the law....and to say it is possible is to sow the seeds of destruction". Pierre Trudeau, 1966. Yet he went ahead and did it. Trudeau accomplishments: Official Languages Act Official bilingualism Multiculturalism Mass non-White Third World immigration Socialized a once free economy Ran up hundreds of billions in debt Decimated the military Poisoned relations with the US Undermined democracy with the Charter Coddled criminals Abetted Quebec separatists with relentless centralization Made us an international laughingstock The 'Official Languages policy' basically serves ONLY the regional French language, as the dominant National English culture/ language never required any federal official status. There is more to the 'Official Languages Act': Excerpt: from Official Languages in Canada: Federal Policy http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/ResearchPublications/prb0844-e.htm On 12 March 2003, after two years of consultations, the Minister announced the Action Plan for Official Languages (Action Plan), which revolved around three major axes: education, community development and the federal public service. Additional funding was announced for: minority-language education; second language learning; language industries; early childhood assistance; health; justice; immigration; economic development; strengthened partnership with the provinces and territories; assistance for community life; and strengthening bilingualism at all levels of the federal public service. The Accountability and Coordination Framework, the main pillar of the Action Plan, made official languages a priority for the government and for public servants. It clarified the responsibilities of departments and agencies, and aimed to enhance coordination among the organizations involved. In financial terms, the federal government committed itself to investing $751.4 million over five years to support the implementation of the Action Plan. Additional funds were added to the Action Plan between 2005 and 2007: an enabling fund for human resources development and community economic development ($36 million), further investments in health ($10.6 million) and funds to reduce waiting lists for language training ($12 million). On 3 December 2007, the Prime Minister of Canada assigned Bernard Lord the task of presiding over consultations with the aim of elaborating a strategy for the next phase of the Action Plan. In a consultation report published in February 2008, Mr. Lord set out 14 recommendations concerning the renewal of the commitment of the Government of Canada to official languages. He proposed that investments be made in the following sectors: education (minority-language, second language and postsecondary); immigration; health; arts and culture; promotion of linguistic duality; language industries; services in the minority language; communications and community media; and collaboration with the provinces and territories. In June 2008, the Minister of Canadian Heritage unveiled the Roadmap for Canada’s Linguistic Duality (Roadmap). The Roadmap provides for additional investments totalling $1.1 billion over five years, divided among 16 federal departments and agencies. It identifies five “priority sectors,” which are: health; justice; immigration; economic development; and arts and culture. * Source 'Official Languages in Canada 'Federal Policy' - publication number 08-44E http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/ResearchPublications/prb0844-e.htm And where exactly do Francophones learn English in officially uni-lingual French Quebec? This is unless of couse they are directly exposed to English speaking society as is described below. Ther are no English immersion courses in Quebec. Here is an excerpt taken from 'A Chat with David Crystal' Prof. Crystal is the acclaimed author of over 40 books on languages and the English language, including Language Death <http://amazon.com/o/asin/0521653215/ws00-20>, English as a Global Language <http://amazon.com/o/asin/052159247X/ws00-20>, and The Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English language <http://amazon.com/o/asin/0521596556/ws00-20>. He is honorary professor of linguistics at the University of Wales, Bangor. More ... <http://wordsmith.org/chat/dc-bio.html> "David Crystal (Guest Speaker) I know there is a confrontation on this one in the US, probably because the rate of change has been so rapid this century. But there isn't any need for confrontation. Three-quarters of the world's population are naturally bilingual. " http://wordsmith.org/chat/dc.html The phrase 'naturally bilingual' is not exactly unheard of. Francophones that obtain bilingual federal government positions or other bilingual jobs are mostly from Ottawa, Ontario and area and Western Quebec, namely the Outaouais with a population of 347,214. They are naturally bilingual to the demographics of the region (country) with easy access to English jobs especially in Ottawa, Ontario, in federal, provincial, municiple and private employers. Ottawa's Francophone population prior to amalgamation was 4%. After amalgamation with Eastern townships brought the Francophone population up to 14% resulting in a FORCED bilingual policy for Ottawa, Ontario. Some ways Quebec discriminates against English speaking Canadians and abuses the Charter: 1) French is the only official language in Quebec violating Canada's constitution. Violating Canada's Language laws. 2) In 1993, the United Nations Human Rights Committee ruled that Quebec's sign laws broke an international covenant on civil and political rights. "A State may choose one or more official languages," the committee wrote, "but it may not exclude outside the spheres of public life, the freedom to express oneself in a certain language." Quebec is violating the agreements and policies of the U.N. by creating racist language laws that make English essentially illegal. 3) Quebec forces families to send their children to French school's unless the parents have attended English schooling. One of the most blatantly racist policies that is akin to racial segregation. Also a human rights violation under the Charter of Rights and the United Nations ICCPR agreement. 4) Quebec's, "Right to protect the French language" is in reality the right to ban the English language without cause. They have a right to protect French yet the English have no right to protect the English language in Quebec. Another violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and another double-standard. 5) In Quebec companies must acquire a certificate of francization, which could only be obtained when a company showed it could function in French and address its employees in French. 6) The U.N. has called repeatedly for Canada to strike down Quebec Language Laws which are enforcing racist and bigoted policies designed to eliminate the English language in Quebec. In fact Rene Levesque has admitted on several occasions that his goal is to drive the English from what rightfully belongs to the French, in his opinion. With the help of Trudeau (Who also wanted to ethnically cleanse Quebec of anyone who wasn't French Catholic) they have worked hard to achieve their dream despite several warnings from the U.N. 8) The OQLF or, "Language Police" -The Office québécois de la langue française (OQLF) provides several warnings before resorting to any legal sanctions. Alleged abuse of its power has led to charges of racism and harassment being levelled against them by members of minority groups.[22] The OQLF urged stores to remove imported kosher goods that did not meet labelling requirements, an action perceived in the Jewish community as an unfair targeting that coincided with a high-profile case against the well-known delicatessen, Schwartz's.[23] In 2002, media reported cases of harassment of allophone merchants who refuse to speak French.

Those jobs probably originate from subcontractors who subcontract a specific job to another subcontractor or even further subcontracting with the final result of that job ends up paying very little. Then again you do have employers that want everything but again pay very little for the multitude of services expected.

It is not irrelevant. The fact is, you support imposed racist language policies. Naturally= (1)" As might be expected"- WordWeb English speaking Canadians are forced to learn French via (again) racist language policies to compete for (bilingual) jobs, altered from English only, by racist language policies in their own de facto English cities and provinces including federal, provincial and municiple governments and Quebec which practice institutional racism against English speaking Canadians.

Trudeau did not forget you either, gay boy.

Do you believe in Stalinism or Nazism or totalitarianism? Answer: I think you do. Bilingualism is a natural genetic trait? Perhaps this is why you think race and language are inseperable. I said 'naturally bilingual' meaning Francophones were not forced to learn the English language by any type of racist language policy and learned it on their own accord.

The British gave certain rights to Quebec to be used in Quebec. The minimal language rights you describe really have nothing to do with bilingualism as such, nor the charter that certainly was not imposed by the British.

It is not a contradiction. In a normal country where immigrants assimilate and integrate, no language policy is necessary to protect the de facto national language, in this case the English language. But Canada is not your normal country that possesses discriminating, racist laws backed by a corrupt imposed charter. In a country like Canada we need laws to ensure the English culture and it's inherited British laws language is paramount. Many states in the U.S. have 'official English' laws to protect the English culture against the influence of foreign languages that could cause confusion and undermine the English language and it's culture. Minus the English/immigrant component in Quebec brings that percentage down to 17-18%. Must I remind you again French in Canada is a regional language and not a national language.

Ever hear of the 'French Language Services Act'combined with corrupt charter rights that does have the political power and does, to incorporate racist language laws. This was already explored and posted earlier in this thread. Official languages---at least the French portion can be considered racist as it is a regional and not a national language and was artificially imposed. Not universe but rather from a dictator who believed in Stalinism. The entire charter is corrupt, discriminatory and racist. We never did need the charter nor did Canadians ever express the requirement for such a charter. We always did have ample laws under our English Common Law system of criminal and civil law.

If what you say is factual, then why the need for Trudeau's racist language policies? There are only 17% of all Canadians that are bilingual and most of those are French Canadians who are naturally bilingual.

There is nothing in the BNA ACT advocating anti-English racist language policie for Canadian society. Racist French language (bilingual policies) have been responsible for the demise of English only speaking jobs out of Quebec.

No language warrants racist language policies.

I would say if the English language in Canada is currently the de facto language of Canada, then yes the English language is certainly the national language of Canada.

Free flowing bilingualism means freely speaking the English and French language without being forced to by racist language policies. There are no previous examples, prior to confederation, of racist language policies forcing the general population to commit themselves to those racist language policies. You are the one that is confused as I never claimed any objection pertaining to whatever language one wants to freely use on commercial signs. Absolutely. If it is the democratic right of Quebec to incorporate French racist language laws and polices,then should it not be the democratic right of English speaking provinces to do likewise? You must remember we have a charter that not only itself contains racist language laws but a federal government that allows Quebec to break rights within that charter. There are many other Canadians that feel the same way and is an issue that has NEVER been resolved by a referendum. I am in favour of scrapping racist parts of the charter along with all other racist language laws.

Good God, you are really out to lunch.

People segregate themselves into language ghettos. Check out Quebec and the multitude of foreign language ghettos scattered throughout cities in Canada.

It is governments and their racist language policies that oppress.

If English and French were national languages, they would be made official and embraced by all Canadian provinces, which they are not.

So what exactly does your 'pre-confederation claim' have to do with free flowing bilingualism? Or is it, like Canadien you favour RACIST LANGUAGE POLICIES.

Any government policy dictating language is naturally oppressive. That is why individuals refer to government imposed language policies as Nazi style language policies. Here is a single example: The last I heard, the participation rates of the Administration of the House were 41% Anglophone, 59% Francophone (certainly not the usual quotes of 75% Anglophone, 25% Francophone); but that was a while back. Now, the Administration, which is subject to the Official Languages Act, has no way to definitely determine whether it is in compliance with Section 39.

Your claim is wrong. The British were simply using a translation service to communicate with a group utilizing a foreign language.

Your statement requires proof or better still, the implementation of a national referendum on the bilingualism issue. Agree? Maybe not on paper, but I would say Quebec is living proof that it does exist.

Then provide proof that they are indeed bigots. Absolutely. Do you actually believe English Canada should be without collective cultural rights? French Canada has them, so why shouldn't English Canada have them? Apart from the fact that very idea would be a violation of the rights of English-speaking CANADIANS living in Quebec, I don't believe that's your position.

You mean two FEDERAL OFFICIAL LANGUAGES.

Absolutely wonderful.

Still has nothing to do with with a language policies FORCED on Canadians by a Quebec French PM who worked for the province of Quebec and had just as much disrespect for English speaking Canadians as he did the Queen.