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Why all the worldwide turmoil? (9/11 thread)
Altai replied to hot enough's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
1) It may be different but I accept it the same. So yes with each collapsing floor, it becomes much heavier but as I said before, each below floors "have to be" more solid than one above floor. Therefore we could roughly accept the resistance power as the same for each floor. But if there is no resistance in floors, yes collapse would accelerate with each below floor. 2) I have considered 0.01 seconds too and it seem like irrationally short because below I will put a video and you can see how a steel ball resist to 500 tons of press at the contact moment. So I think 0.1 seconds is quite fair. According to the Wikipedia, there were about 100 columns and if we accept there were 100.000 tons above, each colums were carrying 1000 tons. I think these huge and vertical colums would resist much more than a round steel ball. -
Why all the worldwide turmoil? (9/11 thread)
Altai replied to hot enough's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Another part which takes my attention is one of the buildings collapse 50 minutes after the hit and other one collapse 100 minutes after the hit. The one which collapse in 50 minutes has 33 floors above the hit point and the one which collapse in 100 minutes has 17 floors above the hit point. So which has double weigh collapses in half of the time other one collapses. what do you think ? Is this logical ? If you ask me, this is sooo stupid. Because if we accept the claims as true and steels were melted, they would melt within close proximity. The columns of the building which has less weight than other building would begin to bend a little later but not in twice more time than other building. This is illogical. I cant make definite descriptions because I am not an expert of the issue. -
Why all the worldwide turmoil? (9/11 thread)
Altai replied to hot enough's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
There are videos of it in youtube calculating the collapse timing. Big part of it is openly seen, only the below part is not visible. If there were no resistance, it would last 9.2 seconds to collapse. Buildings collapse within 10-13 seconds according to the various calculations. So very close to the free fall speed. I also said "about 10 seconds". So even if there was only 0.1 second of resistance at each undamaged floors, it would collapse at least 9 seconds later, so totally in 18-19 seconds. -
Why all the worldwide turmoil? (9/11 thread)
Altai replied to hot enough's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
I researched and TTowers collapse about 10 seconds, so about free fall speed. This means there were no resistance in solid floors, this means someones blowed up solid parts in a way. -
As I said in the OP, we can reach true and full of information always. We have to know "true and full of informations" to be just. I mean for example you and me having some problems and when I ask you "what is the problem?", you should give me the information. The information which you give may be true or false. Being true/false or good/bad also depends on "justice". Therefore it wont vary from person to person. It would also be injust, if you reject to give me any information.
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Yes this would be quite valid reason but many of these things are done by people's grand parents and ancestors. We cant blame them for their ancestor's mistakes as long as they wont defend these mistakes. The problem is many people defends and repeats their ancestor's mistakes.
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Why are you figthing to gain them ? Just put all of them in ignore. They are getting mad when you dont reply them
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Can you imagine what would happen if these two soldiers were from a Muslim country's army in UN and they steal something in a shop in a non-Muslim country ?
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First of all, any ordinary person could easily understand that there are somethings strange happening around the World. They dont need someones to tell them whats happening. But I am also able to reach some more informations that ordinary citizens cannot reach
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Yes I know these things. I know more. I share some of them sometimes under various topics.
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I think that "justice" is the essence of the life. Everthing about life should be based on "justice". It is a value that covers all the other values. Something cannot be "true" without "justice". All the bad things are "bad" because they are not "just". But what is "justice" ? I think that "justice" is to behave according to the logic. Logic based on the same information will never vary. Its the same for everyone. So therefore, as long as we have the same information, justice wont vary from person to person too. We can reach to the "true and full of information" always and its almost impossible not to reach it. People and states have always problems and disagreements with each other because at least one side behaves illogical and unjust. If everyone would behave "just", there would not be any turmoils and disagreements. I think that it should be considered as crime and "healty" people who rejects to recognize "logic" and "justice" should be sentenced and should not be allowed to be in people until they recognize it. Allowing them to be in people is not "just". They will only harm public peace. I will share examples in this topic. What do you think ? Why are you agree with me ? You cant be disagree as long as you dont have any extra informations that will affect the logic.
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Canada's Afghanistan Mission, and all of it's myths.
Altai replied to Army Guy's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Heroin ? -
Why all the worldwide turmoil? (9/11 thread)
Altai replied to hot enough's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
its misleading you. I am talking Anatolian Turkish. Nedn anla maya calisyor sunn Ops, I forget to reply this part, so Azeris are also a kind of Turkish ethnic arm and we speak similar but different. Their language sounds like Russian. -
So what does that mean ? What does "So do the xxx, yyy" mean ?
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LoL Two UN soldiers in Cyprus stole watch from Turkish shop.
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Why all the worldwide turmoil? (9/11 thread)
Altai replied to hot enough's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
LoooL, I also wrote it with a bit broken Turkish to prevent you to use Google translate Okay anyway if you want, I can teach you but if I was you, I would learn Arabic. -
Why all the worldwide turmoil? (9/11 thread)
Altai replied to hot enough's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Really, so beni kolyca anlaya bilyor msun ? or just kidding ? : ) -
Why all the worldwide turmoil? (9/11 thread)
Altai replied to hot enough's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
So I think we just need to calculate resistance power of these steel beams and columns to see whether or not is it really logical that these buildings collapsed because of upper floors hit the below and all together hit the one floor below and all together hit one floor below, like an akkordeon effekt. Here one of the links I have read yesterday but its Turkish. http://www.muhendislikbilgileri.com/?pnum=124&pt=PROBLEM+1 -
wow !!! another old song with perfect lyrics.
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Why all the worldwide turmoil? (9/11 thread)
Altai replied to hot enough's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Ops, yesterday I have searched for the resistance power of steel structures and I have just find some sources that only an engineer could understand it, it was full of formulas, formulas and formulas. I have tried to understand some of them and I think I got but then I have seen some other formulas of flexibility of the steel and I was like "Damn it" So I still claim that these structures wont collapse such easily just because of upper part of it collapses. Recently I have seen three buildings in my city which were destroyed by dipper dredgers and I have seen how strong these buildings were despite they are old. Dipper dredgers were broken at least 3 times while trying to destroy them. They were not collapsing despite dipper dredgers were striking strongly.