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No technological toys nor employer daycares will be able to give a mother's warmness nor affection. So your "modern" World is quite backward when compared to Sharia.

- The word jizyah derives from "cezaya" which means punishment. We also have the same word in Turkish as a result of interaction with Arabic and it means the same thing, so punishment. In Arabic, the word "dariba" means tax. So the word "Jizyah" is used to describe war reparations. - Men gets the heritage twice more than women because men "have to" work and they "have to" meet all needs of their wife and family. Women "dont have to" work and they are only responsible of raising and educating their children and take care of their husband, they dont have to work. - Men are much more familiar with financial affairs because of their responsibilities while women dont have to be familiar with it because of their responsibilities. Men are much more strong and tough due to their nature while women are much more elegant and fearful because of their nature. Therefore Allah wants women to support each other. - Both wife and husband have rights on each other but husbands have a bit more rights because they are responsible to ensure good living conditions for their family while there is no such an obligation for wifes.

Verses please ?

Give an example of incompatible ones ?

Your question is complately irrelevant with this topic. This topic is about how Sharia and state laws are similar even same with each other and how illogical and unfair is the non-similar ones. Please read the OP.

Sharia rules over people with "democracy", centuries before than the day people discovered the term "democracy". Verse 42:38 says that Muslims do their social affairs with meetings and by taking advices from each other. Verse 3:159 wants prophet to make meetings and wants Muslims to exchange their ideas with each other before making decisions about something. Verse 4:59 wants people to obey state officials. Verse 2:256 there is no compulsion in the system. You are against Sharia despite you are also ruled by Sharia

Yes I can prove but first of all you should believe in God/Gods and then we could discuss it in another topic.

Hello sir, I am the owner of this topic and I am trying to keep it within boundaries.

Saying "There is no compulsion in the system" is a fairly comprehensive definition. Do whatever you want.

Our first issue was the marriage age. So big part of countries puts a lower age limit to allow youth people, because we should prevent them to make mistakes until they reach enough maturity. All countries supports it because this is the logical behavior. Logic brings them to the same result. So which is told by Sharia 1,5 millennium ago. Now lets choose another issue; Secularism What does secularism means. The original meaning of secularism was to treat citizens independently from their religions. In time, its meaning was changed by atheist people and began to describe atheist governments. Sharia defends people's freedom of faith and it rules over people "secularly" since last 1,5 millennium. Verse 2:256 says that there is no compulsion in the system. Verse 16:125 wants prophet to be gentile against people while inviting them for Islam. Verse 50:45 warns the prophet and says that he is not a bully on people. Verse 10:99 warns the prophet and says that he cant force people to be Muslims. Verse 4:135 orders that Muslims have to be fair, they cant even make a unfair favor for their own family members. Verse 5:8 orders that even if Muslims does not like some people, still they have to be fair.

The word "kafir/kaffir" was firstly used in Quran by Allah. It was not used before Islam. It derivers from "kefere" root which means "becloud", "hide", "cover up", "farmer". Its used in Quran by Allah to describe people who hides "facts". There are also other adjectives of kafirs such as being agressive, offensive, liar, stingy, arrogant etc... So the word kafir does not mean "those who dont believe in Allah". Someone may not believe in Allah but he/she may be an ordinary-harmless person. But there is a huge group of people that who dont believe in Allah and wants to harm Muslim people. This ones are the kafirs. There is no word in Quran that means "non-Muslim" or "who dont believe in Allah". The word kafir is also used to describe persons who "rejects" Allah. So you cant reject an "uncertainty", because you cant prove there is no God.

LoL, so you cant prove your claim, again bye .

These kids dont have to be niece of grooms or brides, they can be any kids around. Why we only have a photo of this claim ? So where is the wedding video ? If you do such a thing in a Muslim country, probably you would be lynched by the crowd.

Behavior of individuals are not the responsiblity of Islam. I gave you the verse which openly explains the marriage age of youth people. You claim that Aisha was married at 6 based on a story, so you believe in these stories. There are also other stories that makes Aisha impossible to be married at 6, according to these stories she was at least 17 years old. Why are you picking the cherries ?

Why are you using distorted photos and why are you lying ? You really disgust me. You said you have kids too and I really pity your kids. These kids in the photos are companion kids, who accompanies brides and grooms in weddings. Not the brides. I gave you the related verse but you are still obsessively defending the same thing, this makes you a kaffir. You are sick.

and there are millions of examples of it that a little girl runs away with a boy older than her and destroys all her life. Because she is just a child and "just a few childs know what they want to do for the rest of their lifes", many of them are not mentally mature and they are quite confused and quick and faulty decision makers. Allowing a kid to make a choice which will affact all her life is not freedom, its just primitiveness. So if these kids are able to make true decisions at these ages, why MPs elected age in Canada and many other countries is 18 ???

Nope legal marriage age in Turkiye is 18. If your familly allows you to marry, you can marry at 17. You can marry at 16 too but there have to be some extraordinary conditions.

Kids are not able to make true decisions most of the time. What a backward opinion this is. You are really a backward people. What kind of a mother would allow her kids to marry just because of she/he want to marry. This is disgusting. I remember you said months ago in another topic that "only few kids know what they want". Now you contradicted with yourself and you say that "we allow them to make their own decisions." This is why you are in my ignore list and you will stay there forever.

Islamic rules does not force anyone to marry too. But Islam wants everyone to marry and not stay alone all their life. There is no such a thing in Islam too. I gave the verse. 6 years old is not a puberty age nor mental mature age. The prophet cannot do such a thing. Islam is Quran, not the stories-fairy tales collected 600 years after the prophet.

I dont care, if its legal to marry at 16 in your laws, this means you are agree with it as Canadian people.

For example one of the most abused issue is the marriage age in Islam. Ignorant people always abuse it based on stories. What Allah says for marriage age ? Surah 4:6 wants Muslims to keep youths under surveillance until they reach to puberty and still keep them under surveillance until they reach enough mental maturity and allow them to marry when they are logically mature enough too. So I think the lowest marriage age in Canada is 16 and I dont think that this is mature enough age for many youth people. I am in 17 and I dont think that I am ready to grow kids. But if I was living in Canada, I would marry with someone and this would be against Islamic laws. You are a backward country.

I dont know Canada laws, tell me a law.

LoL who the hell you ? I see you for the first time in this forum Dont worry you have no chance of being Muslim, because you have to be a honest person first.

LoL this is another claim. Okay then lets prove this one, show me the verse or verses that persons have to listen some "authorities" about Islam ? Will you leave the forum for ever if you cant do that ? Lets promise for it in front of everyone. or I will prove just the opposite with verse or verses and if I cant do that, I will leave the forum forever. I promise.

Okay, will you leave the forum forever if I would prove just the opposite of your claims with verses ? You can also show me the verses related with your claim and if I cant prove the opposite, I will leave the forum for ever ? Lets see which one of us are the honest one