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Then this also refutes my claim that the lower floors could resist the pressure done by upper floors. Here I found a video, which trys to explain what I was trying to say but still there are lack in some points in this video, they dont calculate the resistance power of each floors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_842608&feature=iv&src_vid=FCjEi4z2KZA&v=GsW6Md9LmdY

LoL new Pepsi CEO was said "We will repeir image of Pepsi which is lost because of wrong ad policies." Pepsi should take some advertisement lessons from Coca Cola's Turkish Ceo.

@hot enough I dont know, maybe nano thermite would cover much smaller volume than normal thermite but it should be placed on many columns in many floors. I dont know how would someones achieve it. thats for sure there are somethings anormal and there is a story behind this event but how ? There are also some people claims that the towers were destroyed through its emergency demolition scheme which was prepared at the beginning of their construction, even before their construction.

Freedom of speech is a fact and right and trying to prevent it is a crime. Public places, be private or be state owned, would not prevent people to speak as they wish, if these places claims of being defender of free speech. Because this is complately contradictory and hypocritical. If someones claims of being defender of free speech, they have to defend it everywhere, they would not say "I believe in free speech but I dont want you to allow in my Facebook to speak freely." Someone would only want not to be disturbed in their private places, for example in their home, in their car or in their private forums or private social media. Another important point is that free speech does not include personal attack and insult. People have right to speak freely and people have also right to live in peace without being attacked by others.

@hot enough The possiblity of thermite seems quite illogical to me. Because I have searched for it and they need at least a bucket full of thermite to melt train rails and these rails are about 100-150 cubic centimeter thick. TTowers had about 100 steel columns and half of it were the thickest ones and each one of these thickest ones was about 7000 cubic centimere thick. So it seems like they would need 70 buckets full of thermite to melt only one column and totally about 5000-6000 buckets for all the columns. We also should consider that they have to melt columns from various floors and 7000 buckets for each floors. They also should put these 7000 buckets of thermite into reaction at the same time using a trigger heat source. So, I dont give any possiblity for thermite.

We are also doing that but is not it also harming the forum's positive credibility ? Allowing these agressive, offensive and ignorant people is just causing valuable members to run away. All the members which I like to talk join the forum once or twice in a month. Someone's freedom of speech ends when they start to harm others.

Another point if it creates an accordion effect and destroy all the building, then all of these demolition engineers are idiots because they put explosives in all the floors and increasing the costs

LoL the most scientific approach from the state funded conspiracy theorists was "We dont need to research anything because we will believe in what we see." and another scientific approach was "According to the Occam Razor (I dont know who is or what is that), the truth is generally what you think first." I dont know should I laugh or should I cry because this is horrible. I think the conscious ignorance is the most dangerous thing in the World. I would prefer an Intelligent enemy instead of an ignorant friend, also no intelligent person would be my enemy

@hot enough So these people are claiming that TTowers were shattered into pieces because of above floors fell on the lower floors. Do you think this is logical and these building cannot carry such a pressure ? Now I will show you an example which help us to understand the credibility of this claim. Open Youtube and watch the controlled demolition failure videos, you will see that explosives on some floors does not affect the columns or doest explode at all and buildings are still stay one piece despite whole the above floor's all together hit the ground. According to state funded conspiracy theorist, they should not stay one piece and they should be shattered into pieces such as what happened to the TTowers and you also should note that TTowers were exposed to much lighter pressure as ratio. So again it seems quite illogical that above 20-30 floors hit the below floors and causes an acerdone effect. This is nonsense. Look at the 02:20 at the below video, this is what exactly I mean.

According to claims Bin Laden was also died long before that US govt was announced he is "killed" and his corpse was "thrown" in an ocean (LoL). I have read that Bin Laden's doctor was a Turkish person and he died because of kidney failure or something else, in 2000's in Tora Bora Mountains.

As I said before, I am not an expert in this issue and I want experts to create a common research commission and explain this issue in legally approved ways. There are three groups of people; 1) One of the groups consist of persons like you and Michael Hardner, so those who directly believe in what govt says without any need for research. Believe in it like as believe in an irrational religion, like as believe in ancient Greek Gods. 2) One of the group is people like me and Hot Enough, who question events and try to reach informations and therefore trying to achieve logical results. 3) One of the group is people creating stories in their imagine World and believe in these stories like believe in an irrational religion, like as believe in Hindu Gods.

In another topic, a poster meant that some groups in Japan killed all the political opposition groups, so like a dictatorship and today they are not a dictatorship anymore after there is no opposition groups left. So they allow democracy because democracy will only work for their interests anymore. Does not it happen all over the World, in all the countries who claims of being "democracy" ? For example could you will a presidency election in US without being allowed by CIA or FBI ? Could you win an election in Canada without being allowed by the her majesty (lol) of Britain ? in Germany ? in France ? in Russia ? For example Turkiye and Egypt elected their presidents democratically and both countries have experienced military coup attempts which is support by Western countries that claims of being "democratic". Trying to guide democracy according to the someone's interests could be called as covered dictatorship. The people who is trying to rule countries as they wish are covering their dictatorship with democracy stories which causes logic illusions. All of these thing I wrote above was just the introductory. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here the main subject of my topic; Why the countries ruled by covered dictatorships are the most stable ones in the World ? Is destroying oppositions through mountain laws creating a stability in politics ? Is not it the most impotant things to have stability in a country's management ? Is not stability one of the most important part of success ?

So they decided to be a democracy after its guaranteed that democracy will only work for them ? Interesting.

But terrorists does not need guns, they can do it in many other ways to commit a crime. Even they can create their own pistols in their garage.

LoL Hot Enough is my best friend in this forum because he claims something and he puts the proofs and evidences on the table. He bangs all of you badly with science and you are just trying to be a pain in the back because you cant reply him in a logical way and this get you mad. Lets jump the cars http://bit.ly/1jgaMv3

Okay. This is enough. I tried my best to communicate fairly but you are just trying to create conspiracy theories which fits with your "Muslims are evils" perspective. Welcome to the Ignered's Club. You will stay there for ever with your other conspiracy theorist friends. Have nice time. Bye.

I am sure millions of people from various countries were dancing and celebrating somethings at the same time when 9-11 was happened. This is your responsiblity to explain what they were celebrating, not mine. Because its your claim, not mine. We are told that "Someone said so" is not a proof. I dont care who is or what is Occam Razor. Someones can easily create fake stories in a way that leads to a logical illusion, this is how false-flags are created. Anyone could dance if you give them 5 dollar and kindly ask them to dance in front of a camera and this is just an example, I dont say it was happened in this way. Even its told by God, I am asking for evidence, God have to give me a proof if he want me to believe in him. There are many media organs controlled by Zionists. Now I am asking for last time and you will be ignored. Can you please give me an evidence that these people were celebrating 9-11 ?

Sorry, this was my mistake, because I dont know where and when this video was taken and I am trying to find what is logical according to what witnesses says. Still it makes no sense to believe in these claims that they were celebrating 9-11. Any person could dance if you give them 5 Dollar, especially in poor countries. Can you show me a proof that they were celebrating 9-11 ?

Are you aware of it, you are just creating conspiracy stories according to what you want to believe, while I am asking questions to find what is truth. I am asking a simple question, why noone talking to the cameras ? Here I also find a video that claims these people are offered some cake to dance in front of cameras.

"News organizations confirmed it" is not a proof. News organizations always did/doing/do fake-false news. There is only one video, where is the videos of other "news organizations" ? And why we dont see anyone talking at the camera ? Why someones does not ask them why they are such happy ? A guy is talking in a part of it but we dont hear what he says, maybe we could only read his lips and I am not a lip reader.

This is why I invite them to create a common research commission. therefore we would not have to "believe" in someones claims, be state or be anyone. I am not an expert in this issue and I dont want to make direct descriptions but as an ordinary person, it seems quite illogical to me that these building collapsed because of upper floors collapsed and they create a pressure effect on the lower floors. There are also many people that saying its impossible to melt all the columns equally, therefore the towers should have lean a side but they collapse vertically. We also need someones to calculate falling speed of the buildings, at east the clearly visible parts because it seem like collapsing at free fall speed, so there is no resistance and this strengthen the possiblity of something "unknown" was happened.

Dont worry, Allah see everyhing. He is just allowing them to sink more and more in the mud.

Yes I saw the video. This is disgusting. They used a video from 1990's which is the record of Palestinians celebrating peace agreement with Israel, claiming its Palestinians celebrating 9-11.

Simple, you are putting the explosives in your bag and calling a taxi, going to the towers, your police friends allowing you to get in and you are going to the rooms which you was rented before, putting the explosives on columns. Then waiting for the planes to hit the towers while shipping your coffee in an helicopter turning around the towers

So is Japan a dictatorhip ? Is dictatorship not also the terrorism itself ? So there is no terrorism in Japan because terrorism won the fight ?