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And sometimes today's irrational fringe turns into tomorrow's accepted narrative. I keep an open mind on all things and look at the world in terms of available evidence. Sure, lots of the theories are simply implausible but I think there are lots of legitimate questions. And you have to remember that the American government really needed a nice pat answer to give the people. Maybe there were elements that were made up to fill the gaps.
I'm still skeptical, for example, of how much evidence they really had that bin Laden was behind it. How long did it take for them to accuse him? Days? I don't recall but it seemed like they had the culprit awfully fast. Most people, it seems, accept the video of him as proof but it could have been faked. Or his claiming responsibility could have been a lie (it made him famous and a celebrity among a lot of people in the world). And when the Taliban offered to turn him over to a neutral third party for trial, it wasn't even considered.
Somebody fabricated evidence of WMD. So, when those same people say other things that can't be independently verified, I'm skeptical.
You talk like there are only 2 possible narratives: the story the US government told and some vast government conspiracy that involved thousands of people. In reality, the possibilities are endless. Just because some or even most of what the US said is true, it doesn't mean it all is.
And BTW, there was a government conspiracy to fabricate evidence of WMD to justify the Iraq invasion. Or do you think that's nutty too?
I treat sasquatch the same way I treat alien civilizations or the lost city of Atlantis or alternate universes or the afterlife. I'm interested in possibilities but there isn't compelling evidence to support any of them.
Literally billions of people believe in a supernatural being who sits in a magical kingdom, judging heaven and earth. Lots of them believe that if you mentally asking him for things, he'll grant wishes or smite enemies. Do you thing they are all nutbars?
(X)The loony TV programs that are produced in regards to UFO'S, sasquatch and alien civilizations is so laughable. I had been watching those kinds of shows and never really questioning what I was watching. Then one day, bingo, I started to wonder as to all these stories about UFO's and their coming to earth for centuries. So, I asked myself, if these UFO's have been coming here for centuries than why haven't they set up an office somewhere in the world? And if they did why can't I find one and go to one of their travel agencies and book a space flight to wherever? I probably wouldn't be able to afford it, but no harm asking. LOL.
Aliens could not be coming to earth for all these centuries, and have not made their presence noticed to us earthlings by now. Just like the God theory, where is he staying way out in space? Is he living on some planet somewhere? I know the universe is big, and it takes a lot or work to keep it up and running so how does one so-called God able to do all that? Does he breathe or eat or drink water to survive? Did he ever have sex?
The Universe is endless. And every time I think about the Universe and where does it come to an end my brain wants to explode. Try really hard thinking about that and see what happens in your head. It's like the brain cannot accept such a possibility that there can be an end to the universe. And if I could ever come to the end of the Universe, what is on the other side of that end? There just can't be nothing? Try also about thinking as to how the universe all started? How does something start from nothing? I cannot create anything when there is nothing there? I am baffled by it all. Life and the universe being around makes no sense to me. We should not be here but we are. Anybody know how to explain all of this to me? I need help.
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What happened on 9/11 was a conspiracy - that is not in doubt. The only question is - which conspiracy is right. Is it the theory advanced by the government - that a bunch of mad Arabs, funded and organized by somebody living in a primitive camp in Afghanistan pulled this off? Is it one of the various other theories floated by various and sundry? Or is it something else entirely?
I would submit the following:
- Governments around the world (the US government included) have been known to lie to their citizens so it isn't logical to just accept their version of events
- The US government was under huge pressure following the incident to explain what happened. It's quite possible that even if no Americans were involved in any way, bin Laden was a convenient fall guy
- Jet fuel doesn't burn that hot and it would burn off very quickly. So it was actually other materials inside the tower that were responsible for the heat of the inferno. If towers can collapse after a fire burns for a couple of hours, perhaps someone should be reviewing building standards
- There were a lot of odd things that happened on 9/11 but that doesn't necessarily mean an inside job
- If it were an inside job, it's extremely unlikely that the people in charge would have informed George Bush. Maybe all we can hope for is a deathbed confession from Cheney
I just want someone to show me as to where are all the airplane parts? No one so far can produce a picture from the Pentagon showing airplane parts. Surely there should be a few big parts lying around? It cannot have all burned up. Parts of the tail end must have survived the so-called theory of being burnt to a crisp. It is impossible to not have some parts around.
There is just no way that an 80 story building can come tumbling down from an airplane hitting the 70th floor. The planes would disintigrate upon impact and turn up into a million pieces as soon as it hit the building. The building was suppose to be built and prepared for just the possibility of a plane flying into the towers. And with many Firefighters that were close enough to the towers said that they had what sounded like explosives sounds coming from the basement area of one of the twin towers. Are we going to call firefighters liars? I think not. There would be no reason for them to lie.
The most interesting thing about all of this is that Silverstein, the owner of the twin towers, just six months before the big event happened had taken out insurance against such an incident happening. Interesting, isn't it? The conspiracy appears to be there but there are too many people ready to believe the government version of what happened, and not willing to listen to other groups and people and the alternative media who have other versions of what happened. AE911 is a website that should be looked at if anyone wants to get the other side of the story.
An old saying goes like this: "To know only one side of the story, is to know nothing at all". Too many people believe and will only listen to the government side of the story, and refuse to listen to the other side of the story that is being presented to them.My gain, their loss.
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Not sure if you seriously think Trump is honest in any way. A few seconds of google can find plenty of examples of hypocritical attitudes and outright lies made by trump.
I'm still waiting for Trump's proof that Obama is not a natural-born citizen, as he promised years ago.
Keep in mind that being politically incorrect does not necessarily make you right on the issues. You can claim all you want that complaints against Trump's Mexican Wall are just "political correctness run amok", but fact is it is a stupid plan.
At this point I do seriously believe that Trump is being honest in what he says. He has not said anything that would appear to be a lie. Look, everybody at sometime in their life as told a lie or two. And I am pretty sure that you have told a fib or two in your life also. I will admit it, I have. I am only human.
If Trump says that he has proof that Obama is not an American citizen than I can believe him. Why would he put his neck in the noose if he didn't believe so? But Obama being the President it would be an exercise in futility to try and continue on with it. He knows it will go nowhere with the media. The media don't like Trump, and they would only fight him over it. Obama has the mainstream media support. They are hard to convince. A waste.
Whether Trump will build a wall is up for grabs but I do believe that he will do something about all the illegal immigration that is going on which he wants stopped. He is not anti-immigrant as the media will have people believe he is just anti-illegal immigration. I just wish that here in Canada our politically correct politicians would work harder to try and eliminate all the illegal immigration that is going on in Canada.
Now why would I think that or expect that?
We have always been a nation of illegals, and I don't think that is going to change, especially now with the liberals back in power. With the liberals in power now, I believe that it will only get bigger and better, for the illegals, that is. Get in shout refugee and you are a shoe in. Sad indeed.
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I've heard stories from the 9/11 conspiracy theorists that the planes didn't even fly into the towers. How's that for googley eyed nonsense? The planes hit the towers at high speed. The impact combined with heat of fire caused the structures to collapse vertically and pancake the rest of the building. #7 caught the worst of the shrapnel and with the ensuing fire, it did the same. Oh well, I guess coming up with conspiracies is good fodder for paranoid minds.
Oh boy, now that is funny. Reading what you just wrote, now I do believe in the 9/11 conspiracy. Why didn't other buildings close to the towers not have the same thing happen to them as did building #7, and come tumbling down. Building #7 appears to have been a planned explosion also.
And why was all the steel from the towers removed as quickly as possible and shipped to China and apparently melted down before any real investigation could be done? Looks like someone was trying to get rid of any evidence. Something is not right with this picture people.
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So, what do you make of this? (scroll to the bottom and it purportedly shows the size of a 757 matched up against the damaged Pentagon wall).
Ok. I need to see plane parts on the ground. Than you may convince me that I may be wrong here and getting the wrong information. So, where is the tail section, for instance? There still should be some big parts of the plane lying around somewhere? It cannot all have been burned up. That I find hard to believe. So, let's see some photos. Not much to ask. Cheers.
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All the gushing these two did over each other today seems more than just a little hypocritical after the blistering insults they hurled during the campaign until Christie bowed out. I guess it's what we have to expect from this gong show. I guess Chris figures a little kiss ass now is worth it now in case the Donald happens to be successful.
Politicians, aren't they just such a bunch of wonderful, noble and honest people? Ya right. Maybe Trump can change all of that in America. Maybe one day we can find someone who is not oh so politically correct on everything. Someone who can discuss certain issues without be labelled as a racist or anti-immigration/multiculturalism. It does not seem to be hurting Trump, so what is the problem with debating those issues in Canada also? I despise political correctness. It's there to suppress opinions and points of view of we the people, and it attacks our right to freedom of speech. This needs to be challenged and changed. But who out there will be our saviour?
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Hey, taxme, I agree with u and last night debate was very funny and entertaining! Trump had the clowns on both sides of him out of control! Trump has life experience and business experience which others don't have except, for the governor of Ohio.
Rubio and Cruz are just showing their true political colors. Establishment sucks, plain and simple. Attack-attack and hope that they can win by attacking Trump. It is not working. Trump is winning every primary, and the establishment is running to the bathroom every minute. They are crapping thier pants. The people that go to those primaries like and want as their President, and that says it all. They want the elite cabal establishment gone. The elite cabal had their day, and they did nothing with it except destroy a once great country. I hope Trump can bring America back from what the elite have done to it. Go, Trump, go. Cheers.
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The Canadian media is the problem. They want to try and portray Donald Trump as a bogeyman. I do not fear him, and there should not be any fear from Trump being elected President. Surely, when we see what Clinton and Bush have done to America, can Trump be any worse? Trump calls it as he sees it, and says what many Americans have had on their minds for years but were denied from saying anything and kept out of the loop by the mainstream corporate establishment media. If you want bad, put in Hillary. Apparently, the woman has in indictment against her. The rumor is that she could be in jail in a years time. But besides that? Go, Trump, go.
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Do you have even the slightest idea of where the majority of immigrants to Canada come from? Can you provide sites to back up anything you claim? Or are you just mired in the same sort of xenophobia as is your buddy there? Please provide.
Yes, I do have an excellent idea as to where the majority of our new immigrants are coming from. Check with the Canada Immigration website, as I have done. There it will tell as to where the majority of our new immigrants are coming from. Approx. 80-85% of our new immigrants are coming from what we call third world countries. You can also check out Paul Fromm's website. His website can tell you all you need to know about where our new immigrants are coming from. For example, walk in downtown Toronto and look around. It doesn't look any more like the old Toronto of fifty years ago.
I am not mired in anything. Just pointing things out as I see them and wonder and question why and what is going on here in Canada. That's all.
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That's nonsense. There was aircraft debris found outside the building. Large pieces such as major engine parts and landing gear were found inside the building. Much of the lighter structure would have been consumed in the fire where temperatures reached 2000 degrees, high enough to turn aluminum into a puddle.
There were several holes created that went into buildings behind the first wall hit by what they said was a plane of the Pentagon complex. There is no way a plane could have penetrated other buildings behind like that. If the nose of a plane hit the building and created the hole that we all saw then why didn't we see where the wings would have gouged out a part of that wall also? There was just one big hole. Witnesses have said that they saw no airplane debris. Were they lying? Believe what you want to believe. I will believe what AE911(architects and engineers)have said about this incident. I think that they are more reliable to listen too.
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Well, the Liberals have announced they're lowering the standards for becoming a Canadian. Given who they accepted as their leader I'm not surprised.
No longer need potential Canadians promise to actually live here! And they won't have to spend as much time here before picking up their passport and heading 'home'. The Liberals understand many immigrants simply want the passport for insurance purposes and then want to live elsewhere, and wish to make it easier on them. Don't worry. They'll return when their own country blows up or they need health care.
It's also good to know terrorists are still much admired by Liberals. I can see the next campa
ign poster now, a beaming Justin Trudeau with his arm around a pair of glaring terrorists, and the banner "These are MY kind of Canadians!"
I would not put it past the liberals and Trudeau to come up with the plan that once an immigrant is here for a year he will automatically become a Canadian citizen. Gawd, maybe they will make it for 6 months. And yes, I have heard of many new immigrants, that after they have obtained their Canadian citizenship, they took off back to their country. The taxpayer's are constantly being made fools of by liberal politicians and the mainstream liberal media. Those two together can never be trusted to use taxpayer's tax dollars wisely.
Massive refugee immigration and multiculturalism has cost the Canadian taxpayer's billions of tax dollars over the decades. The Tories tried to not make becoming a Canadian citizen an easy and cheap thing, but the liberals, well they want to change that now. And starting with the liberals in the early 60's, they have done everything within their power to change the flow of where our new immigrants would come from. Our traditional immigration policy of the past was that more British and European immigrants were the majority of new immigrants. Now they are in the minority status. There is something wrong with the picture.
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The towers pancaked. You can find videos of how demo crews bring down buildings similarly by placing explosives in a similar location as to where the planes hit. When you detonate them the top part falls into the lower part and the building ends up in a pile of rubble in its own footprint. Standard stuff. What you don't know about aviation is that planes are meant to fly at reduced speeds near airports, and the towers were built to withstand an impact at speeds well under that which the planes hitting the towers were travelling.
Indeed, it was not the planes that brought those buildings down but explosives. Yet many believe the mainstream media lie that the planes brought those towers down. Conspiracy abounds here.
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These aircraft were hijacked, they weren't obeying speed limits.
Ya, and so was the plane that supposedly flew into the Pentagon. But yet after the event there were no airplane parts found. How does one explain that?
Just one big round hole in the Pentagon which looked like a missile went thru it. But hey, what do I know.
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Your not helping the cause. In this city our airport is practically in the middle of it and planes fly over all parts of it, all the time and always have.
Not helping what cause? Indeed there are cities that allow planes to fly over them. There is no choice. But in New York this is not allowed.
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Obviously you know nothing about aviation, or buildings for that matter. But tell me, how are planes supposed to get to the airports if they can't fly over cities?
I don't understand what you mean that I know nothing about aviation? I do know that planes can fly. Anyway, anyone with any commons sense can see that those twin tower buildings were brought down by explosives. They came straight down period. No building as high as those towers were, would come straight down, they would tip over somewhere on their way down. But they did not. If you have ever watched other buildings being brought down by explosives, they come straight down. The towers did just that. There is no way that planes flying into those towers way up near the top could have brought them down. It is impossible. Firemen on the site reported that they had heard what sounded like explosions going off in the basement area. Explosives going off in the basement no doubt to weaken the steel support beams. Controlled demolition brought them down. Conspiracy is all around this event. Even building 7 came down like the foundation pillars were weakened with explosives before it came down.
Believe it or not. Source: AE911.
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It has been 9 years since the tragic events that took almost 3,000 lives... and yet the nation that endured these losses is oblivious to the truth...
Is it because they are to scared to face the obvious facts or just don't give a damn?
The government they elected and then re-elected has killed thousands of its own citizens in 3 controlled demolitions, fired a rocket into its own command center and faked 2 plane crashes... to lead their country into 2 wars under false pretext... wars that killed over 1 Million people, and keep killing...
WAKE UP!
It is OK to believe your eyes and not the press and television!
They have been brainwashing you for a long time, but a lie is always a lie, no matter how many times you repeat it...
http://www.michaelmoore.com/books-films/facts/fahrenheit-911
Only after the major globalist players are long gone then maybe the truth will come out. But it won't happen in your life time. And some people are still waiting to find out who really were involved in the killing of JFK. That was over 53 years ago and they are still waiting. There does appear to be another government running the world, a government that we the people know nothing about. It appears to be a well guarded secret. Aw well.
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Do we have to care? Just to keep you happy in Canada?
Maybe you should care and try to make those Americans happy who do believe that 9/11 was part of a conspiracy. Silverstein, the owner of the twin towers, took out an insurance policy against the possibility of a plane flying into them. Well golly, it did happen. And planes are not allowed to fly over or near the city. And no one seems to be able to explain as to how those towers came straight down as if they were demolished by explosives. And why did another building in the same area called building 7 come down just like there was explosives planted inside the building? Interesting, eh?
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There are hundreds of witnesses who saw planes crash. Why do you choose selective the blindness of the troother version ?
Did you ever think about the possibility that you can pay people to lie? It does happen quite often.
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This subject was somewhat in the spotlight in Toronto a little while ago. I'm not sure if the topic was raised then, but it seems to have reared up again.
My initial - and almost automatic - response to these proposals is one of offence. It seems to me like a beautiful example of state-sanctioned multiculturalism gone madly awry. Really, what's it to be? Integrated cultural mosaic or selective ethno-racial ghettoization?
I can understand gender-specific schools; gender is inborn and there may be benefits to separating the two for purposes of education. But culture is as tonal as skin colour, and the two are not inseparably linked. Thus, a kid in Canada is a kid in Canada; regardless of their background or the shade of their epidermis, in school they should all learn equally the proper skills and cognitive thought processes on which to build the next phase of their education, not singled out as "special" or "different" because their mommy is from Jamaica or they were born in Vietnam. At home is where they should be learning their familial and cultural roots; it is the job of the parents to teach these things, not the crown.
How is having an all black school going to change them in any way? Will the be taught the same education as the rest of the other pupils in other schools? Will the test scores be lowered to accommodate them in passing and getting a job? Indeed this multiculturalism program that was foisted on Canadians by Liberalism only ever offers disunity, and never unites. With the Liberals constantly running the country I would not be surprised if every different ethnic group out there ends up having their own schools. In BC I believe that there are some Punjabi schools allowed. Who is next?
Yup, multiculturalism, isn't it wonderful? It sure knows how to unite people together alright.
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The fact that you are speaking out against the government or their actions and you are free and not in jail under torture is a proof that Canada is a democracy. In non-democratic places the secret police or intelligence agents or agency traced the writer's IP or email in many cases even when they use vsp and raid their homes, arrest them, take them to jail, beat the crap out of them and forced them to confess that they work for some communist party or CIA or that they are paid traitors. We read about the victims all the time. Another sign of democracy is that we can change our government by our votes as this happened just a few months ago. Unlike dictatorships that one criminal idiot has the power for life and whoever oppose him will end up in jail or shot or raped.
The liberals did have a platform that included Syrian refugees and the foreign aid has always been on their platform even though they may not have explicitly expressed it because it was so obvious they are not going to suddenly stop what a right wing previous government even was doing.
They are ultra right parties in Canada who like yourself oppose all these. I don't wish to name them because I am oppose to them and don't wish to give them publicity. They never get that many votes because a big majority are like me don't like them. Even the National front in Britain in spite of racial tensions there don't get that much vote Even in France and Germany where racial tension is real high these parties don't get enough votes even to form the opposition. because people know what would happen if they are elected. Memories of Nazi Germany are still fresh in minds or written in histories as atrocities they commuted and human miseries they caused and most Canadians and even Europeans don't want a repeat. NEVER AGAIN..
Well, we can certainly thank the Conservative Party and Harper for getting rid of that draconian communist Sec.13 of the Human Rights Commission Hate law which kept people from expressing their right to express an opinion. This law was given to Canadians as a gift against freedom of speech by the liberal party that you so love and keep telling me that they believe in freedom of speech and democracy. The liberals have taken more rights and freedoms away from we the people than the Conservatives ever did. And yes, I can speak against the government and it's actions but for how long? How long will it be before the liberals bring back another version of Sec. 13 Hate law?
Who gave us the gun laws that we have today which allows Police to enter a person's home without a warrant and take that persons gun away from them. The Liberals. The police cannot go into a pedophiles home and seize their computer without a warrant but they can go into a farmers home and take his rifle. I do not and never will trust the Liberals with my freedom. They have proven to me several times that they are not freedom lovers. They will do anything they can and create new laws if need be to shut up anyone whom they disagree with. We are living in some of those communist countries you mentioned above but it just has not gotten to the extreme that they have done in those dictatorships.
I would like you to tell me the names of some of those ultra right parties so I can view them for myself, plus others here who may wish to do also, so we can make up our own minds as to what they are all about and whether they can be considered to be ultra right or not. Go ahead, please make my day. Or if you do not wish too, than how do I know that they are out there at all? Or are you just saying that?
I believe that the reason why these so-called national parties get bad reviews is because of the corporate controlled globalist media who can and do make or break a party or group if they so wish, and the majority of the people will listen and believe many of the media lies. The majority of people never really do any investigation of their own to find out if the media is telling the truth or not.
Many so-called right wing groups are well meaning but all the media has to do is label them as Nazi or racists and it's almost certain they are finished. Again people will believe the media labeling and stay away from them. After all, nobody wants to look or appear to be deemed a racist or Nazi. The media knows how to manipulate peoples minds very easy. It really does work too.
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POWER vacumes are dangerous - keep an eye on Putin...cut throat opportunism lurks.
Yup, no proof it is Russia yet but let's all jump to conclusions and blame it on Putin. Every time the mainstream try to blame something on Putin, they lose because he is not behind anything. Just a bunch of American propaganda.
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Not listening to the news is a good thing. Reading up on issues in varying publications is the better way to understand policies and issues in Canada. Maybe it's you and not your friends that need to expand your horizons.
That is why I listen to alternative news also. Sounds like something you also should do. Then you will understand as to where I am coming from.
Thanks to alternative media, I can now get the other side of the story that the mainstream controlled media will work hard to ignore and keep me ignorant of the facts and wrapped up in their grasp. I read and listen to both sides of the story. I guess from your response you do not. Aw well.
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The problem with the EU is that the European people don't get to vote for the leaders of the EU or what they make as laws. The EU is a dictatorship where the people have no say. The EU kind of reminds me of communism. The people are forced to listen but are not allowed to speak and ask questions. The British people would be wise to boot the EU out of their lives completely. Britons need to take back their freedoms lost, and once again be able to make their own laws, rules and regulations, and not be dictated too from New World Order Brussels. Brussels is pretty much the headquarters for the world.
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Are you saying Canada is a democracy? I dare to differ. Watch The Rebel and find out that in many cases they have shown that Canada does not always practise democracy. Many people have been fined, jailed or banned from speaking publicly by our freedom of speech loving politicians for daring to express their opinions and points of view. Sorry to have to tell you this but I do live in Canada, not on Mars, and I do watch what goes on here in Canada against people who wish to openly express themselves freely.
I don't believe that the refugee issue was what Canadians were concerned about. Maybe with a few but not that many. I never heard anyone I come into contact with every day bring up or show concern about refugees. That again was the media doing all that crying about refugees. Otherwise the majority I am pretty sure could have cared less about the plight of refugees around the world. The election was more about trying to get rid of Harper, with the refugees thrown in there for good measurement.
Like heck. Like I said before, if the government wants to send money to foreign countries than they should do it with money being donated by private individuals or groups. I don't want any of my tax dollars going to aid another country that in most cases the people have never heard of Canada.
As you said it is our money and the majority of you voted for it. Gee, I don't remember me being asked to vote for that? Matter of fact I don't even recall or hearing where foreign-aid was even an issue? No my friend, it was only a few of you who want people like me to believe that nonsense. And if the Liberals did make it a part of their platform, than why not tell we the people as to how much all of this foreign-aid and refugee aid is going to cost all Canadians? As far as I am concerned I am being robbed every day by politicians who only want to appear politically correct to get elected, and will blow billions of tax dollars on their pet programs and agendas that in many cases does nothing good for Canada or Canadians. They just steal from them.
I wish that we did really have a few so-called ultra right political parties in Canada. The Conservative party was never an ultra right party. They were in the middle, and would flow with the political breeze whichever way it would blow. They were just as much politically correct as the Liberal party is.
Canada needs an overhaul from all the left wing liberal programs and agendas that have just about left Canada and Canadians trying to get by broke, and who are constantly being forced to pay more new taxes just about every other day just so the politicians can get their greedy hands on our money to be able to blow. I have yet to see a politician really give a dam about we the people. It's mostly all about what is good for the party. Politicians are only good for one thing? Make the taxpayer fork out more dollars and create more laws to keep the people suppressed and from fighting back. Pathetic.
Canadians FEAR Trump...Big Time
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Maybe it doesn't make sense to you, but to many Americans, it makes lot a sense to them as to what Trump says he is going to do. If he says he will make Mexico build and pay for the wall, he means it. And if Mexico says no, well Mexico may be in deep doo-doo for not listening to the Donald.
We all know that if Canada were to want to build a wall across Mexico, to stop illegal immigration, our politicians would build the wall and make Canadian taxpayer's pay for it. Probably hire Mexican illegals to help build the wall, and pay them to do the job. But coming back to reality that wall would never get built. After all, that would not be Canadian, denying illegals to enter the country illegally. We have become experts at that these days.
But does America need Mexico? I don't think so. Mexico needs America and if you want to stay friends with America than Mexico better get it's labor force out there and get ready to build and pay for that wall. I don't believe that Trump is fooling around. Why would he say such a thing and than back down after he becomes President, if he becomes President? You have to admit that Trump is not as wishy-washy like most of our politicians are.