Smeelious

Yes, but geography is a bit of a limiting factor in Canada. We have ridings larger than most (all?) European countries already.

Well, I'm not going to let reality get in the way of debate. It's going to be the main talking point at weed peddling brothels. I hear the first one is going up near me. Seems like it should be a good place to get my debate on.

Exactly, you get better representation, but not strictly proportional. The Green party will still be turfed in all ridings but 2. They would be underrepresented in an STV system, unless you want to increase the house 7x..

The other thing here is that STV is not PR. I know someone called Eric on saying the same thing, but he isn't wrong. It isn't PR. It is more representative than FPTP, but not perfectly so, and in some cases not even remotely so.

I don't think you can actually. Unless everyone who votes for say the conservatives has their second vote as liberal and vice-versa In the end I don't think this would happen. Lets take Stephen Harper's riding: 37,283 - Harper 15,132 - Liberal 4,255 - NDP 1,304 - Green (Ps...this guy has the greatest beard Kelly Christie for Prez) Realistically, the conservatives would have two candidates in this riding running. Anther kinda funny thing about STV...The parties would have to decide if they could support a second candidate. (Or hopefully, we see something like the PC and Alliance, or something) In this riding it is unlikely the Liberals or the NDP would run a second candidate. So in hypotheical STV land there are 5 candidates running and 3 have to get elected. Harper (Alliance Party) easily gets the required 33% of the vote needed. (100%/3 candidates = 33%) He also happens to get around 45% of the vote, because he can play the piano don't you know. None of the other candidates get the required 33%. Harper - 44% PC - 20% (harper got 64%, I'm robbing Peter to pay Paul.) Lib - 26% NDP - 7% Green - 2% Since Harper got more than the 33% required his extra votes go to the voter's second choice, which in this case is likely the PC candidate...+11% Harper (ELECTED) PC - 31% Lib - 26% NDP - 7% Green - 2% Now the Green party gets the boot... and that 2% gets distributed (lol) Harper (ELECTED) PC-31% Lib - 27% NDP - 8% Since no other candidate has 33% yet...another party gets turfed. Harper (ELECTED) PC - 31% LIB - 35% (ELECTED) Now, since the Liberals have more than 35%, any votes that had the PC's as the second choice (That's a reasonable assumption) would be transfered to the PC Candidate. Harper (ELECTED) PC - 33% ( ELECTED) LIB - 34% (ELECTED) So the problem becomes...Are there enough people who voted Liberal with a second choice of PC to make this happen. I would bet that there would be, but what happens then? Obviously the PC candidate gets elected. I would assume that the PC candidate would have enough 2nd or 3rd votes from Liberal or NDP supporters to make this valid.

He was soo creepy you had to vote for him...I understand. It happens to everyone.

Such pipelines exist. It's still cheaper to import crude to the east coast, and refined gas otherwise. The only way to fix such foolishness would be to require completely different specs on refined gasoline for Canada...but that would have the net impact of killing refining in the east cost.

I kinda feel like there should be a "Did your vote actually Elect a Candidate" poll as well...

Actually I like this.

Optics

She would still be a good choice.

I voted Communist as the Vote Compass dictated that I should. All Hail the Vote Compass!

See this is what I don't understand Clearly Mulcair has the best man-beard. Harper and JT...The Prime Minister should be quivering in his presence.

In any case, more voting is a good thing

All they need to do for electronic voting: Please enjoy this break from Game three of the ALCS, while Canada votes on their tablets...if not enough Canadians bother to take the 2 minutes to do this, we won't be able to bring the game back. Please enjoying the Jeopardy thinking music in the interim.

Generally I think this has been one of the least dirty elections in recent memory. This is based only on my own perceptions, and might not have basis in reality. I don't especially think that political discourse has taken a turn for the worse in recent years either. As with most things specific topics will come and go. To the giant adds in the papers....That tends more to a discussion about critical thinking than evil electioneering. I think it was fairly obvious that those were adds, I would hope that most people realized that too..

I voted for a third party candidate.

Well considering how regional different parties support is...I don't see it being that much of an issue. Though the results in Quebec and Ontario can and do influence the results in BC, for all the difference that makes in the end. You know...if the Liberals are staring down the barrel of a majority, I think we'll see the Liberals flopping in BC

"Truth" is relative.

well except that all the newspapers endorsing the conservatives are owned by one company (except the G&M)

For some reason I feel like this has turned into one of the best threads in a while. Carry on.

Forcing the vote in FPTP would only make the pitfalls of FPTP worse. Although, it might wake a few more people up to said pitfalls, thus encouraging electoral reform.

There we go! Problem solved.

Obviously....it'll be Blue Jays 204 Toronto FCC 104 Everyone else 0 Still quite a few people that still think Harper has a chance though.

What about...BC http://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2015/10/potentially-significant-movements-after-long-weekend/ 19% for the Greens in BC.