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Evolution is not against creation. They can go together. They are billions of billions of factors precisely fine tuned so that one planet in the Universe comparatively smaller than the size of a microscopic item to earth can support life. This cannot be an accident. Everything does not come out of nothing. Only nothing comes out of nothing. Earth was fine tuned with the vital ingredients over millions of years to develop and sustain life and life was evolved from microscopic form into more advance life form and humans.. Some suggest aliens created life on earth but then this starts a vicious circle as who created aliens!!! There is a good chance there is a creator as some religions are suggesting. Though if true one can only rise to heaven through Christ. There is however no answer to this question. If there is indeed a God his inaction to sufferings around the world is inexcusable. The evil is ruling. The murderers and dictators stay in power. Plenty of murder and rape takes place and most are getting away from punishment. Too many sick and hungry in the world and too much pain, hunger disease and sufferings. Where is the kind and forgiving powerful God described in the holy books?

What is life? What is a living thing? Is life defined by the soul inside? What happens when we die? Do we have souls? Are we both body and soul or just body? If we do have soul then where is it and what happens to it after we die. I don't want religious mambo jumbo like what this religious book or that religious book says. I want your opinion as an intelligence being without what may have been said thousand or thousands years ago. Any thought or related experiences please share. I don't know the answers. I believe there is a good chance we do have souls. They are in our brains or hearts. They enter the fetus before birth and leave our body after death. They reincarnate in different bodies maybe within families. Those with good deeds will be rewarded a rebirth in a good family in a good region of the world. And those with evil deeds will be reborn in poverty or difficult regions . I don't know all these for sure but this is the closest to reality in my view.

Yes because I realized that Iran soccer team are representing the nation of Iran not the hated regime of mullahs.

It is out of my hands but personally I believe Iran soccer players (and Iran nation) are overwhelmingly against this barbaric regime and are supporting the women of Iran. A few were brave enough to speak out against the regime's action to block stadium entry to women in spite of massive repression in that country. So you are right. I agree.

Bring the post to front for people to read. They have no shame and Continue with their denials and lies even when facing with overwhelming evidence.

I personally would take reincarnation over any other religion which encourages heaven and hell in the afterlife. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Cases_Suggestive_of_Reincarnation That said there is heaven and hell in reincarnation too. Those evil people in previous life will receive a miserable life in the next life and those good people in previous life will be reborn as the rich and famous or in a loving family or in civilized Christian countries, Russia excluded.

May the anger of God give the liars a miserable rest of lives and the fire of hell after their dirty lives in this world end. And if they reincarnate I hope they reincarnate as a dirty thirsty dog in a desert or a starving pig in a farm. No insult to dogs or pigs intended.

As I said i curse the one who lied in this thread. Whoever she or he may be. Hope the liar or mercenary burns in hell till eternity. In many places, security forces responded by opening fire on unarmed protesters, largely unemployed or low-income young men between the ages of 19 and 26, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/01/world/middleeast/iran-protests-deaths.html Human rights violations condemned by U.N. https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2021/dec/18/un-criticizes-iran’s-human-rights-record Methods of torture in Iran documented by Amnesty International over the past years include floggings, electric shocks, mock executions, waterboarding, sexual violence, suspension, force-feeding of chemical substances, and deliberate deprivation of medical care https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2020/09/iran-detainees-flogged-sexually-abused-and-given-electric-shocks-in-gruesome-post-protest-crackdown-new-report/ Poverty spikes in Iran as prices for essential items rise sharply https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2020/11/iran-poverty-economy-essential-goods-price-increase.html Regime's mercenary morality police attacks woman for bad hijab. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/19/video-of-iran-morality-police-wrestling-with-woman-sparks-outrage

Yes it was the murderous regime of Saddam Hussain who invaded Iran and many countries including Russia and France armed the bastard to teeth but what caused his invasion was the new islamic regime who purposely weakened the Iranian army by mass execution of top army officers for self preservation. Saddam wanted to end the aggression and pay huge war reparation in 1981 but the islamic regime refused as they wanted to keep the army busy at the borders and strengthen their own position further inside Iran using war as an excused for mass arrests and crack down on opponents closing news papers and arresting opposition. As a result of this deliberate action over a quarter of million more Iranians died including children who were brainwashed or forced to cross mine fields. FINALLY I HOPE THE ONE WHO LIED IN THIS THREAD BURNS IN HELL FOR SUPPORTING THE EVIL AND LIES AND TREASON AGAINST HUMANITY. CASE CLOSED.

Because you defend the UNDEFENDABLE and losing the debate. You are such a Hypocrite. Yes damn Americans shot down a civilian Iran Air plane in 1988 as you mentioned BUT YOU DID NOT MENTION A WORD ABOUT IRAN'S REVOLUTIONARY GUARDS SHOOTTING DOWN A UKRAINIAN AIR LINE KILLING 176 INNOCENT PEOPLE (MOSTLY IRANIAN STUDENTS) MUCH MORE RECENT IN 2020 AND TRIED TO DENY THE CRIME FOR DAYS TILL FACING WITH PROVEN EVIDENCE. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines_Flight_752

Instead of making personal attacks, debate the post. This shows your nature. YOU ARE NOT DEFENDING YOUR COUNTRY. YOU ARE DEFENDING THE IMPOSED MULLAH'S REGIME IN YOUR COUNTRY WHO IS DESTROYING YOUR COUNTRY. You are no better than a traitor. That said, you appear to hate the regime yourself that calling you an associate of the regime, that you see it as insult and you are so offended by my accusation!!!!!!!!!!. The meaning of patriotism is to love your country and ready to die for its well being and preservation (and you appear to qualify for both) but hate the enemies of your country and your nation, that is the regime of islamic republic who are destroying both your country and your nation. Defending this corrupt regime causing so much suffering on your people when people are hungry and rivers dried up and air polluted (because of their corrupt policies) and prisons are full of opponents and nation in suffering because of them is not patriotism but treason. Are you denying there is high inflation in your country? Are you denying widespread poverty in your country? Are you denying widespread corruption in your country by those associated with the regime like Ghalibaf?

All true. 100% true and you know it. So much corruption within the regime itself, the latest as I said is Ghalibaf, the regime is sinking into its own dirt. People are hungry, the price of bread even tripled while housing and food prices increasing exponentially (It is Iran government own statistics so call them lies too!!!!!!!!), and people sink deeper in poverty (again this is internal government statistics), while regime associates (a small minority), likely yourself among them are benefiting from sanctions and widespread theft and corruption. The regime has failed the nation miserably in all fronts. Slightest criticism ends you in jail. This regime must go.

Yeah I bet women in Iran are happy as they are attacked and beaten up by morality police for bad hijab or refused equal rights in many aspects of life like equal division if inheritance or right to divorce and child custody or even travel abroad. They are arrested and put in prison for simple task of singing or dancing even in their own bedrooms. Dictatorships don't last forever. They will fall sooner or later. Even powerful dictatorships like Nazi Germany and evil Soviet empire fell. Islamic republic will fall too hopefully sooner rather than later.

Just to note important points. 1 - Evolution does not contradict the existence of God. 2 - Reincarnation does not contradict the existence of God. The materialists or atheists are saying that everything came from nothing. Logic however says only nothing comes out of nothing. Even if you multiply nothing by a trillion you still get nothing not everything.

FIFA has warned Tehran against a return to its policy of barring women spectators from attending games. Human Rights Watch (HRW) on Wednesday slammed Iranian authorities over an incident in which hundreds of women spectators were locked out of a World Cup qualifying match. Women were attacked by islamic security guards and pepper sprayed while the interior minister accused women of trying to break the stadium doors!!!!! It will be a disgrace if islamic republic Iran is allowed to participate in the world cup. Iran regime continues to suppress the defenseless nation while regime associates are robbing the nation blind while 80% of population leaving in poverty unable to put bread on table, the former revolutionary guard commander, Ghalibaf and close ally of the supreme leader is caught to have purchased millions of dollars worth of luxury apartments in Turkey and his family are recently caught buying expensive gifts in their trip abroad while he himself is claiming that his fridge is empty of food items and lives in poverty. More workers and farmers are joining other workers and go on strike while the hatred for the islamic regime is increasing every day. This nasty islamic regime is sinking in its own dirt and corruption and is coming to an end with a mass revolution. Democracy will be back to Iran and these evil mullahs will be sent to hell next to their boss, Satan.

Well to get attention for one or be interviewed by famous people or national TV for another. May be even paid for their stories? I don't know I am just saying the possibility is there. Or maybe indeed they hallucinated because oxygen was cut off to their brains so their brain became hyper and caused hallucinations. I for one hope that it is true both the afterlife and reincarnation..

No doesn't seem too scary IF it is true. Other possibilities are there is no afterlife and once our body dies then that is the end of everything. The other possibility is that what religious people are saying is true and only a small fraction of us (those really believe in God and also pure in actions) go to heaven and the rest of us end up in hell. I personally don't have the answers but consider the possibility of reincarnation and afterlife (soul existing) as strongest over all other possibilities.

Interesting that it appears overwhelming majority decide to join the light rather than return to life because NDE is a small portion of all. I would assumed everyone wanting to return to life if given a choice thinking how scare we all are of death and thinking of our loved ones hurting!!!!!!!.

I read your post which I believe have summarized the articles. I have been to a number of bible studies in my student life and I was never convinced beyond reasonable doubt or even close to beyond reasonable doubt to be of any kind of proof. So assuming your legend on Adam and Eve is indeed true. You justified many sufferings in the world for what Adam and Eve did!!!!!!!! Why should billions of their children pay a price for their sin or mistake if they committed it. If true then it represents God as revengeful and unmerciful, I don't believe this is true.

So what about all those religions who ever so strongly claim to come from God AFER Christianity and their so called holly book written after bible? If Christ is the true one and complete and only one as so claimed then why God had to send Mohammad and others after Christ?

And what is Adam and Eve creation? A fact or a legend or story said in a book (bible)?

Evolution is AFTER creation of Universe. I am not arguing the creation but rather the fact that Adam and Eve were created as whole humans. Science has proven evolution that that does not contradict the creation of Universe but rather creation of humans.

Anyone has had similar experiences with a loved one? Please share. Thanks in advance.

Thanks for the interesting attachment. I have done a lot of research on experiences related to Near Death Experiences too. Please note the important point as the name says it is near death experiences. In all reported cases not even one actually died and returned to report about after life but reached to the near point of death. Second point is that near death experiences only indicates the possibility of after life and not reincarnation. I do believe that it is quite possible that after we die our soul does go through some of the NDE levels specially meeting the loved ones (some have reported seeing angels or Jesus instead of loved ones but I don't believe that). I remember my grandfather a few days being dying was talking to her dead wife whom he loved very much all his life. She had come to take him to heaven. My beloved Mom described seeing her parents who were at very young age (they were so young my mom was not even born) dressed well asking her to come and join them a few days before passing (a recent event that hurt me so much that I started research on reincarnation and afterlife) . I myself when sleeping and when about to wake up have seen my Mom at my bedroom door standing there and watching me for a fraction of a second. When I fully wake up she is gone. They say when we sleep our soul is freed and ready to unite with other souls.

Science has proven evolution. Adam and Eve theory rejected by modern science. We are all evolution of a very simple microscopic life on earth over billions of years. There was no creation of Adam and Eve,