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:lol: Ooooooo ... the scary COMMUNISTS!!!! That's just naive Bob . Your fearmongering attempt at scaring people like Shady into are obvious and laughable. I've owned and operated a business and may again. I have no love for communal living, thinking, or business and no illusions that it's even humanly possible. I like my privacy and independence and will defend it to the endth degree. I'm probably more libertarian than you because I support reducing the size of government and dismantling many controls on free enterprise, while implementing very strong controls on predatory capitalism/corporatism that undermines and victimizes true entrepreneurs by co-opting our lawmakers and enforcers. I would probably call myself a centrist libertarian, "live and let live" and "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". In other words, live independently by your own choices and wits, but do not victimize others to your personal benefit. And by the way ... re 'dismantling many government controls' ... I believe that every Canadian is born into an inheritance of an equal proportion of ownership of the wealth of Canada, regardless of means and access to power. Those who can and do work harder and smarter earn more along the way, but it should never be at the expense of destructive poverty for those less able, less connected, less powerful. As such, I support universal health care, child care, care for the elderly and less able, universal access to basic necessities (food, shelter, clothing) and rates of public assistance that actually afford healthy development of children in particular: A child malnourished and traumatized. Does not become a healthy and contributing adult without help from all of the rest of us. Thus, I support the establishment of a variety of universal benefits reflecting the equal share we each hold in Canada, to ensure healthy human conditions for all. And I support dismantling many of the HUGE and expensive bureaucracies that are required to perform all the 'means-testing' that is required to determine 'entitlement' to basic needs., substituting instead direct access to basic needs (food, shelter, clothing, health care, education, etc.) ) for all, and modest a guaranteed annual income for all to afford opportunit ie, individually or collectively, for entreprenurship to provide opportunity for service to others and improvement in circumstances of all. The huge government bureaucracies that do 'means-testing' of the poorest and least able Canadians are so costly that that money could be distributed to each and every Canadian, including the wealthy and wealthiEST, to afford basic healthy living for each and every one of us equal shareholders in Canada, leaving us all free to pursue increasing our incomes through healthy entreprenurship and competition while not allowing predators to accumulate a disproportionate amount of our shared wealth. Call it what you want, but it isn't "communism", nor is it unfettered capitalism. Greed is just as dangerous to a healthy society as 'laziness'.

Protesting in Canada starting soon ... http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/10/03/protesters-look-to-occupy-bay-street/

We don't know that because the investigations have not been done. However if it was all 'lawful', why are some of the wealthiEST paying a full 45% intaxes while others pay little to none?

Maybe we're not looking for 'the fall guy' who takes the rap to protect the people and systems who created them. Maybe we're looking for all the criminals among the wealthiEST and among the lawmakers and law enforcers who protect them, and the laws made to shield them from taxation.Maybe we are demanding TRUE law enforcement for all, instead of showcasing a fall guy to protect the rest of the criminals. And maybe we are also looking for the 'law enforcers' who violate their professional oaths and standards to protect wealthy predators instead of protecting the people from predators who undermine constitutional rights.

We know that a larger and increasing proportion of the wealth of Canada is going to the wealthiEST Canadians. If the 99% were 'the problem', we'd be taking wealth away from them. Since they are accumulating more and more of our national wealth, we can be confident in finding some predators among the wealthiEST if we start our investigations with them. We already have laws about confiscation of 'the proceeds of crime' where the 'underground economy' is concerned, and police investigation is the key to this as well.

That depends on the results of police investigations of tax evasion doesn't it?

I think you've missed some of the information posted earlier ... The tax rates themselves don't tell the whole story. Some of the people with the very highest incomes pay little to no taxes, and thus they retain a disproportionately large amount of the total wealth. Of Canada. And that is only the wealth they report. Worldwide, it's estimated that one third of the total wealth of the top 1% is stashed in 'tax havens', never taxed as income. Think about that: The only data we have on the wealthiEST Canadians likely represents only 2/3 of their wealth. Some pay little to no tax even on reported income, and none on the money they stash in tax havens. Some of the wealthiEST Canadians are not paying their fair share of taxes. If you work for some of these wealthiEST tax evaders, you are likely paying more money in taxes than they are. How is that possible? Well first of all the wealthiEST Canadians have power over our governments and they can get tax breaks and 'incentives' passed into law that absolve them of paying taxes. Since these 'laws' are intentionally very complex and convoluted, the public doesn't understand them and since only a very few people are affected, no one pays much attention. Then there is the money stashed in tax havens and not taxed at all. The result is a few most powerful and wealthiEST Canadians who pay the least in taxes, contributing the least to Canada's wellbeing, while controlling our governments and the economy. And right now, the agenda of these wealthiEST powerbrokers worldwide is "austerity" for the rest of us, cuts to health, education and all public services, increasing public debt (we pay the interest on that TO THEM), and increasing tax free profits for themselves. @Derek L Who are the wealthiEST tax evaders? They can be identified and investigated through federal tax records and investigated for tax compliance. Who are the ones stashing money UNTAXED in tax havens? They are harder to track but likely can be identified IF ANYONE CHOSE TO DO SO. Both of these issues are matters for police investigation. However the RCMP are generally reluctant to investigate the wealthiEST powerbrokers who can destroy their careers and their policing budgets And as we saw during the last election and at the G20, the RCMP (and CSIS and other police act as political slaves/henchmen for government and the wealthiEST who control our governments. This can change IF the public focuses attention on unfairness in taxation and tax evasion to the point that law enforcement can no longer ignore it, as is happening now with the "99%" movement identifying the top 1% as suspect. We of the 99% have the right to identify the issues. The police, with very strong public support, have the responsibility to identify tax evading Canadian lawbreakers.

Enjoy your retirement.It's true that those with higher incomes pay more taxes, as it should be. Except that some of the very wealthy don't. So the rich will take a hit with the next round of increases, while the wealthiEST get away with paying welfare tax rates. If you 'won't pay anymore' you should be demanding that the richEST, who control their own tax rates, pay their fair share.

The richest 1%.

We don't need all the 'defense' the US does. We don't make enemies by meddling in the politics and leadership of countries, invade and occupy t take their resources solely for corporate profits.Our mining companies hire their own security to do their dirty deeds.

So you don't mind paying extra taxes because some of the richest people pay far less than they should?

We have a representative democracy where they make the decisions for us. In a participant democracy, we make the decions for us. "Kick me out ..."? Well that's mature. You and whose army? If change scares you so much, just go back in your hole. We've got it covered. What is it you are so frightened of losing? Your chains?

Dp

The structure is a participant democracy where education and consideration by all participants is respected and incorporated into consensus policies.As such, it is fluid, dynamic and evolving, and a revolution of the hearts and minds of people and institutions. The revolution is all of us who intend to take back control of our (now nominal) democracy. If you are not the wealthy and powerful bending democracy to your own greed, then you are part of the revolution.

The policing of Occupy Wall Street And of course, the issue of policing is an evolving story ...There's a lesson to be learned by police: We do not pay them to protect the state/government/'powers that be' from us. WE PAY POLICE TO PROTECT US FROM CORRUPTED GOVERNMENTS that follow orders from corrupt wealth. The police are OUR protection from illegal, nefarious activity that threatens our wellbeing. The Oath of Service of police in Ontario (and elsewhere ) places priority on upholding the Constitution, and the courts hold them to it: Police must demonstrate that defendants' constitutional rights were respected before any evidence of wrongdoing will even be considered. That's why charges laid against many protesters at the Toronto G20 are being thrown out of court, and lawsuits against the police for violations of constitutional rights are proceeding and will cost the police million$. The police need reminders of their duty to protect the rights of people to protest and change the activities of governments that violate their responsibilities to the people and favour the wealthy and powerful, because that alone is violation of our democracy. Democracy replaced the 'feudal system' in theory, but its corruption back into rule by the wealthy and powerful alone is cor is acknowledged publicly by all of us. It's time to fulfill our democratic responsibilities and take our countries back. And the police are a key element of that, and one of our first actions needs to be educating the police about our right/responsibility to do so without being criminalized for it. We pay their salaries. They work for us, to protect us from corrupted governments that subvert democracy into rule by a wealthy oligarchy.

This would be my hope, that governments (of the people) would gain strength from the Occupy movement to give them the courage to stand up to bullying by banks and corporations and the 1%, and carry on the revolution within current structures. It will also be necessary to change laws to make it impossible for one percenters to have any more influence than any other person.

She's a pit bull alright. I'm calling the election ... Liberal minority with NDP opposition.

We'll see about that, and it's good you brought it up. What evidence is there of rapes?

That doesn't appear to be the case here. Can you, for example, just stop paying attention to it? I think it's grabbed the imagination. What if we really can rein in the predators who are taking an increasing portion of Canada's wealth - resources, infrastructure and labour, that belongs to all of us - and instead of letting them lead us around by the nose, we keep them in the middle of our circle to keep an eye on them, where they can only contribute as one shareholder in Canada, equal to each of the rest of us.

Convert yourself. And there are at least 3 political parties.

In your dreams. He's toast.And I assume by "people in Ont. You are talking about yourself?

Made a point, yes, but they are holding out to make real change. They are also feeding the homeless of NYC with donated food.

They wish!

Gee ... I guess your approach doesn't work.