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Not at all.It was within the laws for our democracy. If the election-winning party loses the confidence of parliament - a non-confidence vote - then either an election is triggered or other parties, separately or together, can try to form a government.

" Do 'Occupy Wall Street' protesters represent your views about the nation's economic problems? " Fox News takes a poll on #occupywallstreet Bet they weren't expecting this result! Results Maybe.. 2.58% (5,095) No........ 27.47% (54,255) Yes....... 69.15% (136,573) ............. UPDATE ... 143,860 ... 144,159 ... 144,404 ... ... Other... .8 % (1,584) Yay Fox News!! :D

Of course the PTB have him shackled. It's to be hoped that all the people who supported him understand that Obama needs their help now. OCCUPY something ... we need boots on the ground NOW!

Ya it says something but there's no supporting graph provided. Did they pull it? Was it incorrect? Talk is cheap. You'll have to provide the evidence too Shady.

Sorry ... duplicate topic. Continue here

Oops ... sorry olp. Didn't see your thread. A few posts here Continued here in your thread now.

Clement does another dirty job for Harper ... http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/deeper-cuts-mean-bigger-bonuses-senior-bureaucrats-told/article2197020/?service=mobile It will be interesting to see whether execs propose program cuts or just pretend that remaining workers will double up their workloads. This will not be a slam dunk. I predict a lot of 'civil unrest' among federal public employees. More protesters on Bay Street ... Because the "austerity" agenda is being imposed on 99% of us by the world's wealthiest and most powerful 1%, who sit at the G20 table. The sick thing here, as always in the public service, is that senior executives don't generate the cutback budget scenarios themselves, but make staff do it who also have their necks on the line for job loss. It's always been a fool's game and always will be, because the ones who will 'help' with the process are suckup monkeys who do little work themselves unless it involves toadying to a superior, but they demand more work from staff. They don't get it because they are lousy leaders/motivators ... so the whole thing becomes a stalemate with reduced productivity and toxic environments. Harper is of the stupid mentality that edicts must be followed and "beatings will continue until morale improves" school of thought. Yup, this will swell protest numbers, and be prepared for significant cuts in programs and services. There aren't enough toadies in the public service to do all the work themselves and toadies are incompetent slackasses anyway.

http://www.alternet.org/economy/145705/the_richest_1%25_have_captured_america's_wealth_--_what's_it_going_to_take_to_get_it_back?page=entire http://www.alternet.org/economy/152621/if_top_1_hadnt_ripped_off_trillions_youd_likely_be_making_thousands_of_dollars_more_right_now

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We can do the math ... http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/images/wealth/Figure_1.gif

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We're counting on it.

Nobody's lumped. They'll decide whether they're with the people or by themselves. There's no point depending on the politicians. The predators control them, so we wait it out.

Here's a good candidate for protests: http://towardbalancecanada.com/CouncilCanadiansPetition.html :angry: http://www.miningwatch.ca/canada-s-valuable-fresh-water-not-dumping-toxic-wastes-with-background And that's one reason why predatory mining companies from around the world register as 'Canadian' corporations: Because they can destroy our environment and those of developing countries with the full support and assistance and subsidy by the Canadian government. Canada is not 'nice'. The good thing about a free market, of course, is that when (not if) the big ugly filthy sociopathic predator corporations go down due to public protest and disgust, other more ethical and more competent companies will step up. Supply-demand. A StatsCan study on ETHICAL CONSUMPTION: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/11-008-x/2011001/article/11399-eng.htm

Unhh ... because they are publicly traded on Wall Street. Get it now? And if all corporations don't want to be lumped with the real problem predators ... well I guess they'll just have to provide evidence to support their innocence AND evidence to identify the problem predators. Don't worry your head about it Shady. It will all become clear.

Businesses shrug off fears of violent Cdn. Occupy protests WOW !!! It looks like small business is on board with the protests. That will be important to success. Splitting the small business/large corporation communities is absolutely necessary. Some small businesses do operate unethically but that tends to be a self-limiting strategy for them. For large publicly traded corporations, however, seem to thrive on human rights violations, silencing community concerns, destruction of physical environments that sustain human existence, lying/cheating/stealing from the public for private gain, bullying, bribery/graft/extortion in controlling lawmakers, laws, courts, police, and bureaucrats. One outcome to be hoped for from the attention would be withdrawal of investments from such corporations. No doubt predatory investors will stay in to suck out the last possible penny, but the large pension fund investors have more ordinary shareholders who, especially with the looming baby boom retirees, are much more likely to influence their pension funds to invest in more ethical products. I see big changes coming. :D yahoo! Of course, the other end of the equation is consumption, and that can be influenced too. Canada will be strongly affected since our economy is entirely reliant on filthy bully extraction industries. So be it. There's a simpler life ahead, supportive of and reliant on local products and resources under local control. Think about it: ALL of the conflict in the world is conflict between predatory corporations in partnership with predatory regimes - eg Ghadaffi - designed to destroy human environments and peoples (usually Indigenous Peoples) for the profit of the predatory few. A change is a comin' (Tracy Chapman) The times they are (finally) a-changing (Bob Dylan) Yahoo!!!! You GO! Young ones!! Keep on rockin' ... the free world!! (Apologies to Neil Young ... speaking of whom ... and Bruce Coburn ... and Sarah Harmer ... lots of possibilities!)

Scaring the bankers and corporations will give politicians traction. They can't confront Wall Street by themselves. The power of politicians is an illusion. They only have the power that the corps allow them. It is for the people to confront the corporations that truly have the power.

The corporate mind is a slick and convoluted creature. China's corporatization is to be lauded for undermining North American workers and pulling Chinese people out of poverty there. However don't dare suggest that emissions there are a corporate issue ... in fact, the US's emissions are also China's fault. The sad/scary thing is that they believe themselves. All of the emissions in the world are just not their fault! So Tim ... who is accountable for the emissions from the tar sands? Not the corporations I assume. What about the profits? I'll bet the corporations take full credit for that, eh? There's a name for that kind of disorder of thinking: Sociopathic thinkers take all credit, no blame, are driven to prey on others, have no conscience and are pathological liars. If the shoe fits ...

Paying for failure ... http://mobile.nj.com/advnj/pm_29225/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=uMUceuxT The Wall Street protests are giving opinion columnists a lot to talk about, and ideas are flying. "Remove corporate personhood" was an early focus. It will be interesting to see what they have to say in Canada.

dailymail.uk ... mhmm ... now a link showing that this is in any way related to the protests in NY please.

That doesn't change the facts.

These things do still happen it's true, but I don't know if you are aware of all the work the UN does ... in peacekeeping, in transitional justice following conflicts and in the international courts.The people who truly want to get rid of the UN are dictators and corporatist regimes that want to get away with human rights violations and atrocities against their own or other people. Canada's mining industry for example, has been implicated in human rights abuses in other countries. http://www.thestar.com/iphone/news/canada/article/729147

These things do still happen it's true, but I don't know if you are aware of all the work the UN does ... in peacekeeping, in transitional justice following conflicts and in the international courts.The people who truly want to get rid of the UN are dictators and corporatist regimes that want to get away with human rights violations and atrocities against their own or other people. Canada's mining industry for example, is involved in human rights abuses in other countries where the regimes kill people en masse who stand in the way of plunder for profits not shared with the people.