Je suis Omar

And with new information you feel 30 seconds is too great a time burden to engage in when you enter discussions in science.

But it wasn't a chaotic collapse at all, Tim. You have to watch the video. NIST's visual was designed to back their theory that a single column, 79, fell off its support and led to a global collapse. Reality, always a real bugger for those involved in subterfuge, proved them wrong. The building didn't fall as they hypothesized. It was not anywhere close to what really happened. What does science do when a hypothesis fails, when the evidence doesn't support ones notions? Well, I don't have to tell you or anyone here what happens then. But what should have happened didn't happen. NIST's conclusion were advanced with no proof. NIST advanced those specious conclusion without any scientific support.

Is this science, BC?

Have you watched the 30 second video, BC?

This doesn't address the science, Tim. Can you tell me why NIST's computer model looks nothing at all like the real life collapse of WTC7?

Care to discuss the facts which illustrate my point, Argus?

No plane hit WTC7, Poochy. A plane hit the Empire State Building. It didn't fall down.

Doubly addressed, my apologies. Don't know if one can totally delete a post.

Is this science?

There are over 2000 architects and engineers that respectfully disagree with your, informed or uninformed? opinion, BC. The laws of physics disagree with you, and surprisingly also with NIST, the body that was charged with investigating the collapse of three buildings, the likes of which had never before or since done so. I regret to say that your comments are not very reflective of science. Do you feel that we should proceed by way of science or attempts at funny jokes?

Most if not all have been radical terrorists.

Sourced yes, discussed, perish the thought.

This is in reference to the controlled demolitions that took place on September 11, 2001, where three buildings, WTC 1, 2 & 7 were demolished by as yet unknown individuals. I really have to wonder why so many individuals are completely reluctant to discuss these scientific issues. As one engineer from A&E for 911 Truth has stated, and I paraphrase, You don't need to be an architect or engineer to see that these buildings were brought down by explosives. The conspiracy of silence reminds one of a totalitarian society. Surely that's not what we have become, is it?

That was a wee bit of tongue in cheek. Which terrorists do you mean, the USA or Al Qaeda? We all pretty much follow the dictates of USA terrorists and look where that has gotten the world. Don't you think it was good advice? Historical data show a strong connection between US involvement in international situations and an increase in terrorist attacks against the United States. - US Department of Defense, 1997 There is no yearning-to-be-liberated-by-the-US groundswell among Muslim societies - except perhaps from what they see as apostate tyrannies that the US so determinedly promotes and defends... Muslims to not 'hate our freedom', but rather they hate our policies... When American public diplomacy talks about bringing democracy to Islamic societies, this is seen as no more than self-serving hypocrisy... [Muslims believe] American occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq has not led to democracy there, but only more chaos and suffering. - The Pentagon's advisory panel, the Defense Science Board, 2004 (4)

Yes, what are those from a civilized country like Canada to do?

Throughout the world, on any given day, a man, woman, or child is likely to be displaced, tortured, killed or "disappeared", at the hands of governments or armed political groups. More often than not, the United States shares the blame. - Amnesty International, 1996 Do you think that that is in any way indicative of terrorism, Argus? Of course anyone & everyone should feel free to reply.

I've not noticed any facts from B_C, OGfT.

More typical braggadocio. Volumes of crap with no concern as to quality. So please tell us, George, why do you avidly support USA terrorism and war crimes? Have you no concern for what it is doing to America's reputation?

That's an argument right out of Hitlers handbook. Your true colors keep on shining thru.

Tell me something I don't know, George. But stop with the euphemisms. Not 'romping and stomping', plundering and murdering. Now let's all sing and dance and celebrate your proud amorality! In the typical American braggart fashion.

It matters not where it comes from. What matters is the amoral/criminal fashion that the USA uses it for.

Argus: In 20 years they'll be almost ten percent of the population. That's a size where their cultural wants and demands are going to start influencing the cultural value system, laws and regulations around the country where I live. So why should I be happy with that when I know there are better, more highly skilled immigrants out there from countries with cultural value systems much closer to ours? ////////////////// How very white of you, Argus. You are the archetypical citizen/patriot (dog almighty! Americans have made that such a dirty slimy word) content to mouth empty platitudes, of which you have a very feeble grasp of their true meaning. What part of personal freedom do you not understand?

You don't have a very good grasp of unreasonable search and seizures, George. Why does that not surprise me?