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How come this huge fount of knowledge about 911, the stuff that was "engaged ... long ago from many angles" has not made it into this thread, George? Both the things you advanced were patently false. You had to have known the first contention was false because you were able to view pictures. On the second you were so "informed" that you didn't even know your own government's NIST says the theory you brought forward is bogus. And yet, you have the gall to come right back after your dismal performance and again pound out the same tired old narrative. A wee bit of humour with heaping doses of the truth. Hitler knows what Nano-Thermite in the WTC dust means

This from the fella/lady who advanced the pancake theory. And doesn't want to discuss it.

How come you never got back to me on that other posting, Argus? Can you give me a source to back up your contention?

The pile driver theory is as dead as the pancake theory. Note that NIST has based its entire approach to the global collapse of WTCs 1&2 on the pile driver theory. 9/11 Experiments: The Arbitrator of Competing Hypotheses

Those don't appear to be YOUR ideas, Poochy. And your link takes me to page one of this thread. (Hello, NSA)

Claims that sulfur was a signature of thermite/thermate are silly, because both the elevator shafts and stairwells were constructed with drywall, which is gypsum (calcium sulfate with 18% sulfur content). -------------- The above has been refuted by an experiment done by a professional engineer. Jonathan Cole - 9/11 Experiments: The Mysterious Eutectic Steel - AE911Truth.org https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3YuDKUCALtU

You're upset, Michael, because a "bug eyed nut", your words, called somebody a liar. You don't see the hypocrisy? And then you quote a source that maligns people in most every sentence. And you don't see the hypocrisy? I can stand the heat and still do the science. Can you? Not only firefighters. Are we to consider that you figure them the dumbest of the group? But we know there was molten steel from the pictures, from FEMA's description, from the NYT, who said this was the deepest mystery of all".You saw, with your own eyes, molten steel pouring from the side of one tower. Why do I have to remind you of these things?

I'd love to hear your ideas on how the concrete, the rebar, the steel pans, all blown up into pyroclastic clouds of fine particles would have the power to create your "dust debris".

No mention of your pretence that you were somehow informed on the topic under discussion??!! Just more disingenuousness. This is highly illustrative of the emptiness of the official government conspiracy theorists. They pretend they are knowledgeable, informed individuals when in fact all they do is repeat memes, government lies, media propaganda, hearsay, ... . Ask for informed participation and the results are downright dismal. There's really no need for this degree of ignorance. There are many good, honest sites that report the facts, the science. Here's one, The Best 9/11 Evidence - Richard Gage, AE911Truth, ReThink 9/11 & The Path Forward

I have to note how thorough you were in addressing my responses to your contentions. Still with the totally discredited "pancake" meme. How does 220 acres of concrete blown up into flour sized particles pancake?

Here's the same article with comments. I know that you will really want to read this, B_C. Oops, my bad. I forgot the link. http://www.911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/experts/articles/eagar_jom/eagar_0112.html

George, you really shouldn't be here, save that you might learn a wee bit. You have illustrated that this is all far beyond you with you quoting a thoroughly discredited theory that was rushed out a few months after 911. Even NIST says its bogus. Why wouldn't a body who pretends competence know all this?

What we all know by now, even those of us who can't seem to stop with the childish comments, is that the official story regarding the collapse of the buildings is specious nonsense.

Eyes Wide Shut: Gross Negligence with NIST Denial of Molten Metal on 9/11 - AE911Truth.org Are you aware of the significance of molten steel and iron microspheres being found at the 911 sites, Michael? When you watch the video, as I know you will, note the molten steel running down the side of one of the towers before it collapsed. Do you understand the significance of this?

And what is your point, Poochy?

Do you also believe in Intelligent Design, jbg?

Now this is science. Splendid, Mandy! Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: play the ball, not the person (i.e. Tackle the argument, not the person making it).

"We must never forget that the record on which we judge these defendants today is the record on which history will judge us tomorrow. To pass these defendants a poisoned chalice is to put it to our own lips as well. We must summon such detachment and intellectual integrity to our task that this Trial will commend itself to posterity as fulfilling humanity's aspirations to do justice." Robert H. Jackson Chief of Counsel for the United States Nuremberg, Germany November 21, 1945

Research Your PostIf you are stating a fact, be prepared to back it up with some official sources (websites, links etc). It is also important that you stay on topic and keep the discussion focused.

If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged.- Noam Chomsky For the facts, see, http://www.chomsky.info/talks/1990----.htm

No physical scientist would consider taking on such a task because that is not their area of expertise. But what they have taken on is the sheer impossibility that the official version of events regarding 1, 2 & 7 are simply not scientifically possible. Just this one thing is enough: Nothing can explain the molten steel found and witnessed within the confines of those three buildings because there was no fuel that should/could have been there that could do what was done to said steel. Please address this one issue, Boges, Argus, ... .

You still don't understand 'elephant' or you are just being purposefully obtuse. Actually I've used Google a lot, to present scientific evidence from 2300 plus architects, engineers and scientists. What have you used it for but to expose your own fictions?

That is nonsense, Poochy. Scientific principles can't be applied to questions like that. But scientific principles can easily be applied to building science, physics and the like.

"Huge smoke" does not indicate raging fires. Look at the link to see raging fires that burned for many hours in many steel framed high rises. None of them collapsed. How do you explain the free fall speeds? How do you explain the symmetric collapse? How do you explain the molten steel? How do you explain the iron microspheres? You still haven't read David Chandler's paper. How do you explain any of the scientific issues he has raised that show that the pile driver theory is proven impossible by long established scientific principles?