Je suis Omar

Omar: Actually, I never said either was bogus. You admit you lied and yet you lack the decency to apologize. (Shakes head emoticon)

Then why is no one able to describe any of your rules, OGFT? KeepitSimple had this to say about you, OGFT, in the thread noted below. Right on the money, wouldn't you say? KeepitSimple "On Guard......you have become famous for drive-by comments that you cannot support.....and you simply ignore the replies and move on to the next drive-by. ... . " http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/23461-effectsimplications-of-climate-change-on-jetstreams/page-14

And it wasn't students in English speaking countries "educated" over the last few hundred years, Smallc. Do you remember any of your "grammar rules"?

It is right on topic, Michael. It goes to the central issue of just how brutal the USA is and has always been. That brutality has resulted in blowback, predicted by the usa's own CIA, by the US military, by state officials. It's actually rather surprising that the there aren't nationals of many nations of the world blowing back. --------------- Terror 'blowback' burns CIA America's spies paid and trained their nation's worst enemies, reveals Andrew Marshall in Washington THE CENTRAL Intelligence Agency has its own argot for describing the hallucinatory world within which its employees move. None of its esoteric terms are more euphemistic than "blowback", the term coined to describe operations which end up rebounding against their creators. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/terror-blowback-burns-cia-1182087.html

Connection after connection has been made between US war crimes and terrorism around the world and this Texas incident. To deny these connections is the most facile thing imaginable. And why would one of MLW's biggest critics of US "foreign policies" want to divert attention away from just how connected they are? Look at the vicious nature of so many Americans who supported the illegal invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. These sick people make movies about their war criminals, celebrate them, when the actions were identical to what the Nazis did, ie. launch wars of aggression against innocent countries. With, I must remind you, the usual full compliment of American lies.

I'm afraid not. The USA started the entire mess in SE Asia with its massive terrorist actions against the people of Vietnam. The bombing of Cambodia was another in a long line of vicious war crimes, started by the saviour of the oppressed. ------------------- "The International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg, which followed World War II, called the waging of aggressive war "essentially an evil thing...to initiate a war of aggression...is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole."[2] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_aggression --------------- That accumulated evil includes the resulting evil that was instigated by the USA. PolPot and the Khmer Rouge were just good ole American style back to the country individuals. Homesteaders, if you will.

How so, Michael? Please elucidate.

Talk about facile, BlackDog. The big bad USA invaded two sovereign nations in the course of what, three years, kills and injures millions, destroys two countries, which kills additional untold numbers, and you focus on two men who killed no one. How many USA babies died as a result of this serious Texas attack? How many USA babies will, down the road, be born seriously deformed from this oh so important Texas event?

Why are you not heeding BlackDog's warnings against facile comments?

Black Dog: Like how you're making excuses for the guys who tried to shoot up this Texas thing or even Pol Pot? Omar: Examples of which you shan't be able to locate. I'm not making excuses for what happened in Texas. I'm only pointing out its inevitability. Do you consider Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge to be bad people? BlackDog: "Facile: appearing neat and comprehensive only by ignoring the true complexities of an issue; superficial." It's the perfect descriptor. Omar: What of a person who calls the ultimate war crimes and all included war crimes "foreign policies"?

Bombs over Cambodia http://www.yale.edu/cgp/Walrus_CambodiaBombing_OCT06.pdf

There you go again, making excuses for war criminals and terrorists. The comparison is not at all facile; it is apt. Your grand reluctance to venture into the reality of that situation reveals that you really don't want to talk about the two centuries of USA war crimes and terrorism, you just want to make a pretence of doing so - "US policies" indeed - both Iraq and Afghanistan are prime examples of what Justice Jackson talked about - "for our position is that no grievances or policies will justify resort to aggressive war. It is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of policy." ------------------------------ Statement by Justice Jackson on War Trials Agreement (August 12, 1945). We must make clear to the Germans that the wrong for which their fallen leaders are on trial is not that they lost the war, but that they started it. And we must not allow ourselves to be drawn into a trial of the causes of the war, for our position is that no grievances or policies will justify resort to aggressive war. It is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of policy. Statement by Justice Jackson on War Trials Agreement (August 12, 1945). The privilege of opening the first trial in history for crimes against the peace of the world imposes a grave responsibility. The wrongs which we seek to condemn and punish have been so calculated, so malignant, and so devastating, that civilization cannot tolerate their being ignored, because it cannot survive their being repeated. That four great nations, flushed with victory and stung with injury stay the hand of vengeance and voluntarily submit their captive enemies to the judgment of the law is one of the most significant tributes that Power has ever paid to Reason. Opening Address to the International Military Tribunal at the Nuremberg Trials (November 10, 1945). If we can cultivate in the world the idea that aggressive war-making is the way to the prisoner's dock rather than the way to honors, we will have accomplished something toward making the peace more secure. Opening Address to the International Military Tribunal at the Nuremberg Trials (November 10, 1945). We must never forget that the record on which we judge these defendants is the record on which history will judge us tomorrow. To pass these defendants a poisoned chalice is to put it to our own lips as well. Nuremberg Tribunal. Opening Address to the International Military Tribunal at the Nuremberg Trials (November 10, 1945). If certain acts of violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us. International Conference on Military Trials, London, 1945, Dept. of State Pub.No. 3080 (1949), p. 330.

If one looks closely at the number of deaths caused directly and indirectly by the USA, the comparison is apt, Cyber. And remember, the USA is supposed to be the good guys. Just one example, Cambodia, how many millions killed and injured by the actions of the USA? ----------- From Pol Pot to ISIS: Anything that flies on everything that moves by John Pilger In transmitting President Richard Nixon's orders for a "massive" bombing of Cambodia in 1969, Henry Kissinger said, "Anything that flies on everything that moves". As Barack Obama ignites his seventh war against the Muslim world since he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, the orchestrated hysteria and lies make one almost nostalgic for Kissinger's murderous honesty. As a witness to the human consequences of aerial savagery - including the beheading of victims, their parts festooning trees and fields - I am not surprised by the disregard of memory and history, yet again. A telling example is the rise to power of Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge, who had much in common with today's Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS). They, too, were ruthless medievalists who began as a small sect. They, too, were the product of an American-made apocalypse, this time in Asia. According to Pol Pot, his movement had consisted of "fewer than 5,000 poorly armed guerrillas uncertain about their strategy, tactics, loyalty and leaders". Once Nixon's and Kissinger's B52 bombers had gone to work as part of "Operation Menu", the west's ultimate demon could not believe his luck. The Americans dropped the equivalent of five Hiroshimas on rural Cambodia during 1969-73. They levelled village after village, returning to bomb the rubble and corpses. The craters left monstrous necklaces of carnage, still visible from the air. The terror was unimaginable. A former Khmer Rouge official described how the survivors "froze up and they would wander around mute for three or four days. Terrified and half-crazy, the people were ready to believe what they were told... That was what made it so easy for the Khmer Rouge to win the people over." A Finnish Government Commission of Enquiry estimated that 600,000 Cambodians died in the ensuing civil war and described the bombing as the "first stage in a decade of genocide". What Nixon and Kissinger began, Pol Pot, their beneficiary, completed. Under their bombs, the Khmer Rouge grew to a formidable army of 200,000. ... http://johnpilger.com/articles/from-pol-pot-to-isis-anything-that-flies-on-everything-that-moves

Actually I never said either was bogus.

The gigantic leap is the inability of the vast majority of westerners to recognize that "US foreign policy" is nothing more than a grand deception. It's just like Nazis foreign policy.

Highly indicative of how poorly you read and follow things. TWO books, among the premier grammar books of the last 25 years, which would be the period of time when all these nonsense "grammar" rules were shot down.

Oh please! How many folks do you know on this board who are willing to stand up and call a spade a spade? The USA has been murdering people in the Middle East for a good long time and stealing their wealth. Regularly, there are people who make lame excuses for this long and cruel exploitation of the poor of the world but they get their panties in a bunch about these affronts to freedom of speech when they lack the honesty necessary to even enjoy such a freedom. Freedom of speech comes with some responsibilities, such as not using it for rank propaganda purposes. Nothing sullies it more than that. Can you say elephant in the room, bcsapper?

Callous much?! Yeah, you gotta admire a country that makes a regular habit of killing children and babies, not to mention their parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, ... just to line their already overstuffed pockets. Now, talk about callous!!

Speaking of demagogues, Kimmy, consider the vast majority of US/UK/... politicians. Again, we're all dancing around that gigantic elephant in the room when we all know who and why these problems continue to surface Why? Numerous peoples of the world, from myriad countries, have the right to not be murdered, to not have their children poisoned by the thieving western nations, led by the USA, their wealth stolen, ... .

That's what happened to Gary Ridgway. Not at all a pretty result there!

That degree of incompetence should have seen him sacked. And who the hell does he think he is? The military, including this clueless individual, are employees. A dandy example of the oxymoron, military intelligence.

I don't think that you are really as up to speed on these issues as you should be, BM.

Why do you ignore the significance of the two major grammar books of the last quarter century completely ignoring this "great grammar issue"? It's simply another good example of time wasted on a real non-issue, when there is so much more of real interest and importance.

What is the significance of your statement, GH?

That is absolutely true, BG. There's no one else that can invent/coin new words and phrases except for the people who use a language. Not only Bill, and really, how can he be blamed for using his language to try to get himself out of a jam. We all do it to some degree or other. This website is full of people using their language for all manner of deception, even outright, bald faced lies. It was bamboozling for sure, but it was grammatical and accurate within the parameters he described.