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If you want to assert crazy assumptions, Micheal, designed to divert attention from pointed questions asked of you, from issues that you initiated, that is your province. May I ask, would a moderator not consider that thread drift?

Science requires a degree of clear and concise language.There was no question in your quote, not even a question mark.

Yes, Michael, but obviously not the guy who has "looked into it".Referring back to my last post to you, there were a number of science issues that you haven't addressed?

Seeing as we have seen, just how poorly you understand these issues, how you have illustrated, from your own (rarely) supplied sources, that you don't grasp the ideas, and further, that you are hopelessly behind the times, it's clear that your disjointed, confused posts on this issue are about as close to science as your nonexistent posts discussing language science.

You obviously haven't looked into it enough. Did you read Eyeball's response? There was molten steel flowing from WTC 2 minutes before the collapse. There was molten iron sphericals found in WTC dust by USGS, RJ Lee Group, numerous scientists, but not by NIST, because they refused to look for it, despite it being found by these "multiple objective parties"! From RJ Lee Group website: "At RJ Lee Group, we believe that science speaks for itself. We just give it a confident voice." There are myriad photographs of WTC molten steel available for anyone willing to look into it. There is FEMA describing the instance of eutectic molten steel. There is Jonathon Barnett, (part of FEMA team ??) describing eutectic moten steel, which, curiously, in what people suggest was a normal situation, with normally available fuels, was an complete impossibility. There are numerous witnesses, recorded with video and audio, describing seeing molten metal. You know what is truly curious. It's how incurious are those who pretend they have looked into this. It's oh so curious how so so many are not only unwilling to look at the science, these people use actively underhanded, dishonest actions in order to obfuscate things. People like Popular Mechanics, even NOVA, National Geographic, and of course the media tool, the history channel. Why not discuss things openly and honestly? Isn't that what science is all about?

As is usually the case, you sure did ignore a lot, OGFT. And to boot, the quoted material indicates that you have been lying. Bolding is mine.

Michael, why was there molten steel and iron in the three buildings when there was no fuel source that could have created molten steel and iron?

Both buildings, WTCs 1&2, were designed for that scenario. And the buildings didn't fall down, they were blown up. Anyone who looks at the videos can see that. Demolition experts know that a small portion of a building cannot destroy a much larger portion of a building without added explosives. The huge volumes of concrete, roughly 110 acres, four to five inches thick, cannot be turned into microscopic sized particles without the addition of explosives. No plane hits WTC 7, yet the building collapses into its footprint at free fall speed for the first seven seconds, as admitted by NIST. And then Danny Jowenko, a demolition expert, described the collapse of WTC 7 as a controlled demolition. Molten steel and iron were found in all three buildings when there was no fuel source that legally should have been there to produce said molten iron and steel.

That's probably as thorough a discussion, on the science, from the government conspiracy crew as we have to date seen.

What we would really like to know, Michael, is why are so few willing to discuss the science?

This meme has been imported, wholesale, from the US of A. The notion that the mainstream media is left wing is fatuous in the extreme. Media that is actually more left has been against these massive war crimes and terrorist actions against the people of Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention all the other always ongoing terrorist actions by the USA. All the mainstream media, CBC included, have been cheerleaders for the war criminals/terrorists that illegally invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Yeah, 'cause I larned from my pappy that's how a deemokkrasee works.

These are the people, the USA, that commit all manner of war crime with their new toys, amoral actions and then they hide it all with massive doses of propaganda and a compliant media. That is how it has always been, USA governments and the USA "media" working hand in glove just like the Nazis.

Wikipedia and the some of the very media groups that supported the war criminals, the terrorism, the war crimes. WOW!These are the very media entities that speak not a breath of the myriad terrorist actions of the USA that have been going on for over a century, are still going on today. How many Canadians know that the General Assembly by about a 188 to 2 margin, (US & Israel) have for the last 23 years, been telling the USA to end its terrorist actions against Cuba? How many people know that the USA is the only country ever charged and convicted of being a terrorist nation? Have you heard that on CBC, on the BBC? Have you seen sanctions placed on the USA by the UK and Canada? Were sanctions placed on the USA for supporting PolPot and the Khmer Rouge? These are serious war criminals and terrorists, the USA, and you are trying to defend them. This is just one of many terrorist actions of the USA. These are the terrorists that you are trying to defend. These are the make up laws as they go along guys, or the completely ignore laws guys, yet you try to defend them.

But the worst were protected and brought into the employ of the USA. Fitting when the USA is in most every way the equivalent of the Nazis. The USA also protected from prosecution the people of Unit 731. You really are not at all up to speed on this stuff, Argus, or, alternatively, you knowingly hide things, which is a description for lying.

Perhaps you can provide the basis for your contentions, AG.

No pancakes, OGFT. That's a lie. The bogus Pancake nonsense was even disavowed by NIST. Do try to keep up to speed.

What Burke said. And evil folk don't do a thing except continue to support the evil problem that is, has been causing all the problems - the USA. They have nukes, they have used them, considered using them in Korea too. Amoral devils that make ISIS look like angels. Nobody is going to surpass the numbers slaughtered by the USA.

I really wish you would stop providing sources that provide facts to back up what you are saying, HJ. They are simply not as compelling or as educational as, say, Smallc's emoticons.

The relevance to today is eerie. History has proven the author wrong. The USA has done to myriad peoples of myriad nations, exactly what the nazis did to the Jews. Not on the same scale to one group and not in the same fashion. But with the same malevolence, the same viciousness, the same total disregard for their victims. What makes what the USA has done more evil even than the Nazis is that the USA has made these outrageously false claims throughout history that it is a force for good, a savior of the oppressed, which we now know is all complete hogwash. The second factor is that the USA has had such a long run, which has put them in first place, ahead of the Nazis. It is a fact that all who have prepared this ground of hatred toward the Cubans, Vietnamese, Filipinos and other races are exactly as responsible for the bestial slaughter of the Koreans in Korea, and others, as US administrations and their cliques. Even if today they are frightened by the results of their hatred, they are, as guilty as the Nazis. The USA only gathers the fruit of their well-planted seed.

It's like you folks have never heard of a source, a cite, facts, ... . You are each other's echo chambers.

Go ahead and describe, with something other than your opinion, how they were legal.

The people responsible for determining the collapse of, not two but three buildings were not there. Theirs was a whitewash, designed to support the official conspiracy. It was not science but rather, a coverup. The coverup started quickly after 9-11. Evidence was destroyed, silly theories, eg. The Pancake theory, were advanced then quickly discarded. But still today, some continue to advance these silly theories. There is, today, no official explanation for the collapse of WTCs 1&2. There is a scientific explanation, they were blown up.

Noble, nowhere close, LG, proud, most assuredly but a more apt description is incredibly conceited. From your comments it's clear that you really don't know the true history of the USA. It has been a plague on the larger part of this planet's humanity. From its genocidal beginnings against Native Americans, the USA has hardly paused in bringing death and destruction to the poor of the world. 9/11 doesn't come remotely close to the real tragic events precipitated by the USA. The death toll from USA war crimes and terrorism is orders of magnitude higher than that of 911.