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Wrong they can't ask questions until you get a lawyer.It goes like this Officer blah blah Person.. Am I being detained Officer you are being detained for xyz reason You have the right to council if you can't afford council we will provide a number and let you obtain duty council .. Would you like to contact council If yes... Cop cannot lawfully ask any questions After person speaks with council cop can ask but person has no requirement to say anything. After saying I do not wish to respond to any questioning, kindly release me. If the cop dosent they are being an a.h. Any cop can do that without a lengthy detention. you can't hold them just to hold them only to prevent a crime, and form that you need to have evidence of a from, investigative detention is for questioning, 7 days of questioning is nonsense.
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Detainment is not arrest and police must both provide reason for detainment and provide for access to counsel immediately. Someone who is detained must be done so lawfully, not arbitrarily.Mere suspcion is not enough for detaining someone. A crime must have likely occurred or will occur. Right to council and other rights must be provided for. You cant just stop someone and hold them for a week to jail them for a week. A week of jail time without charge for no purpose is abuse and a human rights violation. People have no obligation to say anything to police or provide any info but their name. Police must provide a valid reason for any detention. It is incredibly destructive and abusive to give people jail time for noncriminal grounds. Anyone who disagrees, leave for a week after telling you employer you in jail for nan week while cops decide to press charges. Oh an don't show up to pick your kids up or for work without notice. This isn't being a mp work for 10 days a year bs. People have real lives effected by time and law.
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I am a nice guy who likes to help people out, I don't like abusers and victimizers.I speak with police all the time on a variety of subjects. I treat cops like everyone else, if a cop is rude they won't be warmly received. I tend to be more cautious around police because they often are armed, much like I am with anyone carrying lethal weapons in public. I do not support submissiveness to public agents, they serve the public not the other way around, they are my servant not the other way around. Any divergence from acting pro socio and pro bono in line with constitutional law is corruption and can not be accepted. an officer engages in discreditable conduct when he or she uses profane, abusive or insulting language or http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/cj-jp/fv-vf/har/part3.html It should be the govs responsibility to put websites, and social media on the banned list not use lawful materials as grounds to jail people for 7 days without having committed a crime.
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Don't defame me, at no point did I suggest killing cops, you don't seem to be able to rationalize defence to required force, if you are suggesting cops intend to use serious or lethal force to attempt an unlawful arrest then that is a byproduct. But yes I can justify killing people who try to murder me. Do you prefer to die?Lemon you have a lamer perspective, defeatist and slaveish. Your mindset is powerless and shameful in my opinion. I have studied policing, I know how police could respond, and I know the law something you arnt willing to exercise as you support disenfranchisement and destruction of your right to life and liberty. That is a disgraceful position. I don't care if it is a cop or not a cop if someone tries to murder me I will use whatever force is needed to prevent that. You will never win a fight against murderers with that position. I am saying nothing to constitutional rule but unconstitutional violence is not accepted by myself. You see, cop can do anything they want. I see, I can do anything I want with reason. If cop does something criminal and unlawfully they are criminal. Government is not immune from criminality. Government that violates peoples human rights has no legitimacy, no right to rule and thus no recognition as having a right to sovereign exercise. Your position is cowardly. Accepting state murder or unlawful political arrests is not dignified and your position is worthless to me. Lemon leaf they arnt terrorists, they are suspects, that is the problem. You don't hold terrorists for 7 days you hold them for life. I strongly urge you and any others to learn how defend yourself from unaccountable totalitarian regimes open to commit human rights abuses and crimes against humanity I have no faith in any government to protect me from victimization and abuse.History has taught us these lessons, do not submit yourself to unjust rule. If you can't defend yourself do not expect anyone else to. Also my real issue was with civilians acting as secret police, not per se police acting as police, the police would be expected to perform a little better than non police, although I know there is room for improvement. Introducing laws that violate the charter or bill if rights will not make this an easier process, some cops can get confused and screwed up on extent of lawful exercise with all these flatly illegal laws being instituted. It ain't gonna do nothing to stop terrorism. It doesn't go far enough and it goes in the wrong direction. For gods sake though if you don't have enough info to press charges how do you have any clue they are engaged in terrorism, and no you should not be throwing people into jail or holding whatever that may be for a week to interrogate them. Interrogation and coerced confessions are illegal for a reason. The changes to law completely invalidate legitimacy of the foundation of western justice.
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No its not, cops deserved to get a f.u. if they start trying to intimidate people without a crime having occurred. No charge and the cops assaulted you trying to arrest you without grounds it is totally defensible, the cop is the criminal. Regardless if they lie about what happened and they do lie, no, because the cop is acting unlawfully any court that supports that corruption can f.o. to. I don't need them.Last thing I need is leatherheads setting political and cultural limits on my activities based upon what they feel comfortable with. Either it is legal or criminal, this aint Germany if it ain't a crime f.o. If cops want to investigate a suspicious activity they should get a search warrant it is that simple. I dont need anyone whether or not a cop intimidating and attempting to extort me, that is the crime, and they should be the ones kicked out of society because they are the scum. They are the breach. Suspicion does not allow arrest. They need the a reasonable expectation a crime has or will occur. Someone visiting a flagged website is not grounds even if it is suspicious. If the website ain't I juncted it is media. If people do not intend to engage in crime they arnt criminals. Stop lying. Arbitrary arrest is criminal. Suspicion only allows for an attempt to gather more evidence, and without a search warrant will be the worst thing they could do as it creates liabilities and inadmisabilities by law. There are few exceptions such as distress calls, but you ain't holding someone for 7 days without knowing they were involved in a crime. So no you can't make a lawful arrest on suspicion alone. You are lying. This isn't about cops it is about civilians doing this be, with no need to identify or share disclosure of what the accusations are. It is totally unconstitutional. By law if a cop detains you you have access to counsel and the right to have the merits heard be fora j.p at the earliest time to determine the merits and lawfulness of arrest, this secret 7 day detention stuff by civilians is totally unlawful, and criminal. Only thing cops are doing is getting disabled killed or arrested if they unlawfully assault me and persist in endangering my life. Either you have charges or you f.o. If you persist I engaging in harassment you will get complaint and demand from superiors and t court to stop the harassment and if you continue to provoke me I will be justified to use a much force as is necessary to arrest you to get the criminal harassment to stop. That is the law.
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I would beat the crap out of someone who uses force to falsely arrest me without charges. Having unknown unaccountable people arresting and confining people is problematic because there is room for abuse. Lucky moose allows for lawful citizens arrest. How do I know its not a terrorist abduction plot? Arrest on suspicion is clearly unconstitutional any idiot should see that.
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No. Unlawful Arrest detention and forcible confinement or use of force are crimes and police are accountable at law.They must have reasonable grounds that a crime has or will occur and only hold people for indictable offence or where continuous, or to prevent furtherance or breach of the peace. Any other use is unlawful, as it would be an arbitrary arrest and arbitrary detention. C51 allows for suspicion to be used. This is the difference Grounds are like finding a key of coke in someone's car. Suspicion would be smelling pot while doing a check. Suspicion allows for investigation but not charter violations or criminal acts to be committed against suspects. C51 let's non police civilians commit crime such as harassment, forcible confinement and assault,and criminal defamation. It is a really bad law and massive civil rights and human rights violator. How this plays is what, stops terrorism, must be good. In reality, what anyone can arrest me if the think I might be up to something without enough evidence to prove a crime is involved, lie to people I know about me, and ruin my life? Hope its not me. But it will only be used on Muslims right, so if I am not Muslim then no need to fear the furnace. This paired with the secret trials, and secret indisputable testimony is pretty creepy, a very very bad standard. Should people loose their license if their car smells like pot? Should parents loose their kids if it has a bruise? This is the same logic.
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Weed grows itself in sunlight with adequet water apparently. I am surprised 3 us states and the district of Columbia, d.c. have all legalized it before Canadian provinces. With proper safeguards for sure it should be legalized, it creates an underground economy and that is part of the systemic cycle of violence in Canada. We ought remove systems that enable victimization and abuse of people. I must add though that potency is an issue as skunk weed are cited to cause neurological abnormalities, potency should be a factor in a system with free medical insurance. But paid national health insurance is a better model as long as those in poverty have basic care. smoking in general is not good in excess so the culture behind use should be moved to safer uses such was food and vapourized. Its not that use is bad but there is lot of room for harm reduction. We ought to steer drug use to remove the negatives, combating use selectively has not been effective.
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Read the Google links I already gave you the search terms for, do your own research.If you want to keep yourself ignorant that is your choice.
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PNah they've done dogs monkeys mice, you know the typical stuff. It isn't different than other transplants. Sad truth. It ain't perfect but it could be improved a lot if govs let them get onto it. They are holding back the science of cloning and in general they shun the idea of the implications of immortality or greatly extended life. Bad ethics is not providing the cure and suggesting people kill themselves instead. They dont want replaceable bodies and vat grown human spares. That is the problem, they want people to die. 100 years ago heart transplants were viewed the same way. Thee move the arm on the clock on this one.
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There be other stuff with brains Guyser.Biologicals system arnt that different between species, these are small percentages. What this amounts to is killing people is more palatable than providing a means for them to be cured of their illness. That is the wrong position. We should let the willing have their head tried to be transplanted, in the end there aint nothing to loose over the worse position. I am not going to show you things that don't exist but I will present better policy. I have confidence doctors will eventually get a hang of the procedure. The other party to this is that we should pay people to be organ donors at death. That is the shame as one body can provide lots of life so we should make sure failed operations facilitate reharvest. This could also allow for the term to be harvested if meds don't make the organs and blood and skin etc ... Unusable. This will deaden the selfishness of suicide through giving life. Canada will spend upwards of 140 million bombing people in Iraq but it won't invest the same in saving 10 or 20 lives in Canada with the same money, that is a shame. Canada has a gov that would rather have its citizens kill themselves than stop assassinating others overseas, that is a shame.
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There are tons, try Google with search terms Brain transplant Head transplant The above and China Italy United states The stuff was going on in the 60s and 70s both by us doctors and the soviets. Soviets transplanted multiple animal heads some 50 years ago. Science has progressed quite abit since then. If you are still unable to find info after going through he top 10 pages of Google with the search terms, I will supply you with some medical journals. Here is one link to start you off http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/10154240/First-human-head-transplant-now-possible-neurosurgeon-claims.html
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Rue you are wrong.They transplanted several brains, and brain tissue already. This is pretty much where other organ transplants were to start such a heart transplants. The two major issues right now are preventing rejection after successful surgery - easily achievable with cloning, and connecting the motor system , that advance will also cure paralysis. They have ideas on this. They can all bypass the motor systems via sensors now. Your belief is out of date. People are holding back the science for ethics reasons on both human cloning and brain transplants, yet will allow people to kill themselves, it is nonsensical. It is both possible and has happened. Educate yourself else you are lying to the world.
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Was is past tence.It actually is, but there is no need to prosecute the offender so it isn't enforced. (Intent should still be criminal technically) Assisting suicide 246b is under review. Kindly understand canadian law is not universal truth. 246. Every one who, with intent to enable or assist himself or another person to commit an indictable offence, (a) attempts, by any means, to choke, suffocate or strangle another person, or by any means calculated to choke, suffocate or strangle, attempts to render another person insensible, unconscious or incapable of resistance, or ( administers or causes to be administered to any person, or attempts to administer to any person, or causes or attempts to cause any person to take a stupefying or overpowering drug, matter or thing, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life. R.S., c. C-34, s. 230; 1972, c. 13, s. 70. Marginal note:Traps likely to cause bodily harm 247. (1) Every one is guilty of an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years, who with intent to cause death or bodily harm to a person, whether ascertained or not, (a) sets or places a trap, device or other thing that is likely to cause death or bodily harm to a person; or ( being in occupation or possession of a place, knowingly permits such a trap, device or other thing to remain in that place. Marginal note:Bodily harm (2) Every one who commits an offence under subsection (1) and thereby causes bodily harm to any other person is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years. Marginal note:Offence-related place (3) Every one who commits an offence under subsection (1), in a place kept or used for the purpose of committing another indictable offence, is guilty of an indictable offence and is liable to a term of imprisonment not exceeding ten years. Marginal note:Offence-related place bodily harm (4) Every one who commits an offence under subsection (1), in a place kept or used for the purpose of committing another indictable offence, and thereby causes bodily harm to a person is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to a term of imprisonment not exceeding fourteen years. Marginal note:Death (5) Every one who commits an offence under subsection (1) and thereby causes the death of any other person is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life.
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Yes and it is still murder but legal murder in Canada, that is the problem.You need to recognize the difference between lawful and criminal acts. It is still murder.
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Doctor assisted suicide is patient assisted murder.Suicide was a crime so a doctor facilitating that is aiding suicide. The doctor participating in killing someone is accessory to murder. All that aside this type of murder is seen as OK, but don't trust doctors. They have abused their powers before, providing them with legal protections against murder is the wrong way to go. I am not saying all the people a dr hates will be prescribed death, but doctors are not to be universally trusted, a blanket right to kill their Patients must be avoided. This is why the law should only empower the public not state institutions, socialists should never be givrn authority over the public general.
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See above1. People should have the right to die. 2. Keep the state out of it, while insuring public accountability. 3. Do not give doctors the right to murder. 4. Use technology that facilitates a window to rethink it. 5. Strongly encourage terminals to volunteer for brain transplant procedures so all disease will be curable through cloning and surgery.
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I thought I should add these people should volunteer as brain transplant patients, to help advance the cure to terminal disease. http://articles.philly.com/1998-07-02/news/25737590_1_brain-cells-alma-cerasini-brain-disorders https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=gzbuVJHyNoyQyASN-4BI&url=http://gizmodo.com/the-crazy-science-behind-a-proposed-human-head-transpla-1688014257&ved=0CBsQqQIoADAA&usg=AFQjCNHKS_GhsBc4j-PjgF-QzoYTQnEmgg&sig2=woRyZ-S1uT2QaUh82IW7_A
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People should have the right die but we need to insure there are protections to insure that the state doesn't use it as a way of murdering people. Sadly all institutions in Canada tend to be self interested corrupt venegeful and vindictive. This is way people should need to insure that ample protections exist such a statements archive listing the reasons in video publically available and an independent confirmation jury to insure the person really exercised the right. There should also be an opportunity to appeal the decision by members of the public within a week or so so that people can confirm with assurance there is no way to public ally resolve the reason for suicide, crisis intervention that is publically open. Government and medical association members should have no role aside from administration or provision of humane death, but it should be reversible within a couple hours in case they change their mind. There should be a window before it is certain death. Giving the given the gov, courts, drs the right to murder people is the wrong way They ain't universally good moral or honest folk, hell no don't involve them in legal murder
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What gets me about harperis two major things 1. He broke his promises on senate reform 2. He reduced Canadians liberties Lesser so are popular issues I disagree with. Ex. Why bomb Isis, Iraq has its own military? If Iran can't fight them, let them fight Iran and save Israel the issue, if Iran can why spend over 150 million dollars assassinating people as far away from Canada as you can get, why endanger Canadians by meddling? We all know it is Turkey anyway to get rid of the Kurds and Assad. 150 million to bomb people? Why? Its not even a UN mission, let Russia waste its money bombing radicalists that will just replenish until Iraq or Iran or Hezbollah fights them, it is the dumbest mission in the history of Canada. I am personally very concerned for Canadians, as it seems that Canada is really loosing its good nature. Canada is regressing its civil liberties, that is death to what Canada is. Harper ℅ could have introduced more representation, reduced the public service dead weight, and provided more rights like the american constitution provides, in the end Canada got Stalinism from the conservative party. The policy is vomit and ineffective. I dont blame Harper though, I blame the political options and corruption. It appears very possible there could be a minority this time next year, I would hope that the 60% of Canadians who support a healthy safe and clean Canada see a government that is not ruled by the conservatives and protects civil liberties. 20 jerks should not endanger everyone's rights, I'd rather 10 Canadians be killed than 100 victimized by a government that ignores human rights, it ruins the fabric of Canada. Police have tremendous powers in Canada. The RCMP should be more than capable to protect Canadians. It scares me to think Canada will have secret police outside the joint national security enforcement structures. It scares me to think NATO intends to control social media on the internet to control the public/world. These are not actions of good government. That is the end times and the work of Satan. The work ofbig brother to insert Vicious neoliberalist overlords intent to persecute and victimize the political opposition Through stalinization of the police state that only they are freed from. Dropping a small yeild tactical nuke in Raqaa would be a better spending than 10000 bombing missions costing over 40 billion over 10 years. Iraq has its own bloody military. Please elect sane people who support human rights, it scares me the socialist are the party that supports human rights, maybe. I know the liberals won't voice support for universal human rights or international law, the conservatives won't. I would leave Canada if I had the cash to, because it isn't canada it is a creation of hell for people who support freedom, instead I am stuck as a political prisoners in everything Canada fought against until 2001, when NATO became a police state. Save Canada become an activist for the Real Canadians Party, a party where every one is a canadiate in a free and open democracy, the world. Stand together and end partisanship join the fight to save humanity from the old ones. Protect the publics freedom and equality. End second class citizenship, marginilization, and systemic violence against political minorities. Stop criminalizing and persecuting law abiding people. Claw back the superlegislation crafted to rip off Canadians and give rights to elites. Don't allow more sovereignty to be surrendered to corporations stop the Trans pacific partnership, end the security partnership and provide transparency and faster processing to those who consent to the violation of their rights, only. Reject unconstitutional rule. Reject the partisans. Stop raping human rights. These people are scum to legitimize deprivation of freedom. To hell with those who support that.
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Very bad legislation for Canadians. If you don't have evidence of a crime butt out. Extra judicial non criminal detention is a human rights violation for gods sake. The measures are a clear violation of arbitrary arrest and detention measures of the charter, the act is conspiracy to forcible confinement without lawful excuse. These crooks should be the ones in jail. Other sections are conspiracy to criminal harassment and fraud.
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Trudeau on the Wrong Side of an Issue......Again!
nerve replied to Keepitsimple's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Government needs to but out and stop being cultural police. We don't need communism and socialist secret police state in Canada. Kick Beria out of office! Culture should be freely expressed in Canada. If it don't criminalize people, real crimes, government and the courts should butt out and shut up. If you want to I'd people use biometrics like fingerprints. -
Hmm, what I don't get is why leave the stuff? Was it a fallout trench? None the less its done, it wasn't made to be concieled. Any goof could have created a less obvious structure. Set up the hidden camera and devote police resources to insure that other potential threats are neutralized... without violating constitutional rights or creating and empowering secret police in Canada.