no1ninja

So what now? What would you do to show how wrong this sort of hate is?

I think you are taking an extremist view. I know lots of arabs, that have lied to their dads, I think the human condition is the same for us all. I think all cultures teach a healthy respect for ones parents. Especially in families that spend lots of time together. I usually tell people that no matter what country you go to, you will have a certain segment that are artists, thieves, philanthropists, drug addicts, professors, etc... nothing is so clear cut. Somewhere out there there is an Arab kid programming a computer, another smoking pot and another writing a play. There really is no reason for this hate. The sooner you realize that it takes two to have a conflict the sooner you will come to a solution.

Really? I did not know that. Is that like some sort of a Palestinian trait where by the sons are super loyal to their dads. These people sound mythical. Maybe we should genetically study them to isolate for this difference. So in a military occupied zone, different living conditions apply. Those that have control, militaristiclly speaking can just wipe out your possessions at their whim, without legal process... or due access to a trial, but its not like apartheid... I get it.

I honestly don't know. Who determines this terrorism? Is there like a terrorism court? Is it held in Israel? Some of these homes that have been destroyed have been political figures and in some cases doctors. I also question how right that would be if for instance say your son decided to act out in a terrorist manner, and the Canadian authorities bulldozed your house. I mean wouldn't we want some sort of a trail? If you can come to the house with heavy construction vehicle, surely you can apprehend the man and have a court where these matters are heard and judged fairly. Why put the rest of the family on the street? Seems kind of barbaric and punitive to me. Not what an advanced legal nation that respected its citizens within its perceived borders would do. What happens to Israelis that break the law, or are mass murders like Bernardo, does Israel bulldoze their family dwellings? Or is this strictly a west bank policy?

I read the article and don't know what to say. Is it saying that radiation is not harmful, that it reduces the chance for malignancy? One example claims a 96 percent reduction. Is this scientific, are there different forms of radiation, one more dangerous than the other? What about the five cases of cancer found? Could these people have become the teenage ninja turtles that we all hear so much about?

Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but the incident is ongoing, is it not? From what I know of radiation, those levels can very easily go up. If there is a leak somewhere who is to say it is not on going?

I remember him claiming that US army troops told him at gun point to leave for his own protection... this was met with folks rolling their eyes, but he seemed adamant as if he actually was violated.

The funny thing about radiation is that it is cumulative. So a bit here and bit there adds to the risk. Radiation effects us whether we see it or not. Dog shit on your living room floor won't do any damage to you either.

It would be nice if the Palestinians had the same right... seems when they do things as private citizens they get their homes bulldozed.

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3867/reactorc.jpg The above is something I copied from another forum. Here is an interesting FAQ on the situation. http://www.nei.org/filefolder/Japanese_Nuclear_Situation_FAQs.pdf

LOL, You PC's crack me up. So yah, no need to worry about the people who do not vote for us. Their rights are not important. It's exactly that kind of stupidity that will lose you the election. LOL.

In that case you have no point limiting my examples of to only my soil. Capiche? Yes, but only the vigilant have rights. If you don't speak up, you will not be heard. For instance the struggle for equality in your nation took decades and centuries. It's not easy, but history knows it was correct. As did women’s rights, as well as rights for Japanese Americans.

So then you should be proud of your right to protest your government. Do you like Obama?

I don't know ask them, seems they beat up non anarchists because the courts are hearing a few of these cases. ...oh wait, you mean a protester, by your definition is AUTOMATICALLY an anarchist? (are you sure you are American?)

I don't know where to begin with this post... if you are doctoral candidate, than your educational system really is in shambles. Not only where you not able to follow my train of thought, but you further proved your isolation.

I am not an anarchist. I believe in the LAW. Even as it applies to anarchists. (you sure you going to be okay on this doctoral paper of yours, you need help?)

LOL, Maybe you should do a thesis on isolation, and how Americans see themselves as us and them. We Canadians learn from the history of the entire world. I can give you examples of the Soviet Union, Germany, your politics, our politics... there are no boundries as to where and how I find my examples. That is the richness that I get from realizing that human nature is identical regardless of borders. AND good luck on your thesis, sounds to me like you still have much more living of life to do.

I think you are missjudging the publics feelings on GOVERNMENT interfering with their lives. I think if this issues is spotlighted some more, there is nothing else out there that can get to your heat quicker than a kennell lockup on the streets of your own city. I think you are incredibly naive if you think that this will not be a push button for some. Maybe not all, but it all will add up in the ledgers.

Don't be offended, I picked it up from a US massage forum, the Market Ticker, it was a post by an american on there. The example was not to villify the US, but to show a tactic that seems horrible at first but can be used to achive a desired consequence. I am not saying it is the right thing to do. (AND by no means is it exclusive to the US.) ...and by the way I love the US, I love your Declaration of Independence and I have a lot of respect for some of your history. In many ways we are pussies next to you guys... but that mostly goes for British rule. I have more respect for J6P than his government or the corporate lobbying process, of that I am not shy.

If our leader does not take it seriously, it only means he is complicit. How could you not take this seirously unless, all roads lead to Rome?

IF that is the case, than its very easy to suspend the rights of an entire nation. The above situation could be orchestrated by anyone for any reason. All we have is ourselves, suspending our own rights in a crisis, seems unencesserily punitive (which in my mind those measures were, since they were only implemented in Quebec) You may be right though. Sometimes these measures work tactically, even if they fail rational thought. EXAMPLE: I heard one gentlemen speak about showing up at a demonstration in the US and listening to what the people had to say. It was at the steps of a courthouse, so you could be a passer by without any political affiliations and be easily persuaded to observe for a duration. This individual did just that. Suddenly, officers started surrounding the group for tactical reasons, this individual suddenly got a bad feeling in his stomach. The police officers jumped him, and accused him of doing something he was not doing, did it loudly and made an example of him. It took him a while to figure out why HIM. He than realized years later that it is a subversion tactic. Pick out the weakest in the crowd, and make an example of him. The most vocal and demonstrative most likely will have allies in the group, they are prepared for this, jumping one of them will elevate the incident. So by hitting the weakest, most voulnarable, the shock, awe and horror of the victim quickly dispersess that group without incident. Our instinct is to avoid danger, if we are not the victims.

Exactly, the set pattern is to beat up the protesters and arrest them. So point stands, they knew from the get go what they intended to do. There was no reason to not let those people go home. They wanted to test their facilities, because they put them up. The facilities held more importance than the people. This is a big issue for me guys. ...Harper not having an opinion on this either way, is WORSE. Makes him look like he is out to lunch, busy studying for his role as a police officer in a tv special. Pouring over legislation to build more prisons for Canadians.

So where are the resignations? Where are the charges? Seems to me that Harper supported how the G20 was handled. I have not heard anything to the contrary (I may change my mind if I do). Lots of innocents charged, no police or organizers, even though RIGHTS WERE CLEARLY VIOLATED, you can clearly see police assaulting peaceful demonstrators, in some cases when they are turned away from them (its brutal). I will always remember, that I lived in a time where our police were beating up men with prosthetic legs for protesting. During Harper's reign, during Harper's elite engagement in Toronto. (Like I said, nothing happened in this city when the power went off on the eastern seaboard... not a car got burnt. None of this had to happen, the city could of protested and the demonstrators could of been ALLOWED to go back to their homes after the protest. They were not allowed to. Anyone who protested was not allowed to return to their homes after a certain time. They wanted to arrest them ALL. They already PLANNED FOR THE KEENNELS. THEY SET THEM UP. THEY WERE WAITING FOR THIS. THIS WAS INTENTIONALLY DONE.) How is this not an issue? What country is this? "Police Conservia"? Is this what we want our kids to inherit?

It may have done little then... but history does not forget. Propaganda and spin only lasts for so long. The reason is that you need to constantly put effort into it, as the logical conclusion will always be the opposite. After a while, when other issues become more pressing... the spin gets eazed and history sees the tuth for what it is. The legacy of Nixon speaks for itself. I like tragedies like Macbeth, I can even like the main character... but I never lose sight of the wrong. (Even the Soviets could not maintain their spin on their horrible misdeeds. It's too hard to demand the energy of future generations to continue spinning for you.)

The October Crisis was horrible and has stained my image of Trudeau as our countries premier politician. Would I vote for him after such an act, HELL NO! However, being a human. I don't mind looking back at the reign of these individuals and in some ways admiring their lives. I enjoy reading about Nixon, he was one hell of smart man. Very interesting to understand that we all can have moments where our ideals wain due to our ego's. Anger is not rational, it does not help, yet we all feel a degree of it when we are frustrated.