SpankyMcFarland
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Danny Williams is the most admired former politician in the province. Though not without flaws, he had a profound and positive effect on how people see themselves here and did much to restore local pride.
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NL PCs would have some overlap with federal Conservatives but not a whole lot. The lack of love is not just from Danny.
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Seems to be a consensus building here that Nanos stands alone with his Liberal lead. This implies Conservatives at 35% is likely closer and, therefore, adding in a given 3-5% for more efficiently getting out it's vote, etc. and we have another 4 years of Stephen Harper.
I think he has to get a majority of seats in Parliament to stay.
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The heart of the alliance between Conservatives and Bloc is metaphobia, fear of change. The metaphobes are the core vote in both groups.
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What happens to your assets if the gov decides you are surplus to requirements? Could be a nice little earner if expanded.
And what about the group which got the most terrorism done here in the last 40 years - the Khalistan Skhs? How come there are no moves to strip citizenship from people who murdered hundreds? There are also some very dodgy Tamils in our midst. Something tells me we'll see no action on those fronts during the election..
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Cons 140
LPC 110
NDP 82
BQ 7
GP 1
What percentage votes would give that result?
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The hypothesis on what the election is about is now going to be tested. If the election is not about Harper, the NDP
vote should stay fairly solid. It if is, we will see more drift to the Libs.
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Party politics aside, and purely as a historical matter, who was the last Canadian born in Canada to have his
citizenship revoked? Gerald Bull gave his up, didn't he?
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Things are bouncing around but the NDP vote seems to be sinking. Post-Niqabeast, the Bloc are de facto Conservative allies in Quebec, they help them chew up NDP votes, and elsewhere the Liberals seems to trending up. The Cons may get a boost from this trade deal and they have certainly prepared well to keep the farmers (and guys like LInamar) happy with our money but the auto unions may hurt them in Ontario. A long campaign has helped Trudeau meet more people and get that 'happy warrior' image better known. He's far better on the campaign trail than in formal debates and it may have a decisive effect.
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Actually, they have changed. Very few of the old mob are still around.So the equivalent of this is....getting tried and convicted of a heinous crime, like terrorism or rape of a minor, and then 20 years later...that person says "but i've changed! That was 20 years ago". Look, what I'm saying is that the Conservative party, the Liberal party, AND the NDP party (for stealing money to upgrade their offices) are all political parties. And they are all corrupt to some extent. So let's stop pretending that one party is "holier than thou" vs another. It adds no value to a thread IMHO when we start mudslinging.
It's simply NOT good enough to excuse one's sins by pointing to those of others. Never has been. We live in an information age where so much is revealed - and where governments and private companies know more than they ever knew about us - and yet our federal government goes to great lengths to conceal what it is up to. Even parliament can't review what CSIS is doing any more. We deserve better, irrespective of party politics.
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Far more accountable than the Liberal track record. I can pick on so much crap that the Liberals campaigned on where they backtracked .Own it.
Is there any example you are willing to give where the Conservatives disappointed you on the issues of openness and accountability?
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Yes. There were provisions for this already. War crimes, treason etc.
OK, so when did that happen and to whom?
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.Revoking citizenship is not a new thing. Nazi war criminals who emigrated to other nations under false pretenses (false identities) have, when captured, had their citizenship terminated. So far as I understand it, they then regain their original citizenship at deportation.
Has the citizenship of a person born here ever been revoked before?
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Conservative 145
Lib 125
NDP 66
Green 1
Bloq 1
Other 0
Something like this. The Conservatives have shown they are good at pulling the ridings that really matter,
I expect the NDP to take a pounding as more and more people think that the libs will be the "Anyone but Harper" party
The ridings that really matter - sums up the madness of FPTP. The Bloc look like they will be on the receiving end of the weird effects of this system along with the Greens.
It's possible that there are closet Conservatives out there too embarrassed to admit their dark proclivities to pollsters, and who could blame them? It happened in Britain.
NL used to have a strong PC presence BTW.
Talk of what the Libs and NDP would do on Coalition or even union is very leader-dependent. Trudeau
may have to change his tune after the election.
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Here's an example of how strategic voting and pro-rep can be problematic.
One advantage with FPTP is that it does in fact allow me to vote for a candidate instead of a party. How would pro rep allow this if it forces me to vote for a party instead of a candidate?
In STV you rank the candidates. So you could put your favourite on top and candidates from the parties you like next.
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And what issues are there with either nations' court systems?
I would not know enough about the courts to comment but the Japanese are very protective about their farmers. I can see long delays appearing in the judicial process.
This is a country of secret executions where WWII has not been honestly examined yet.
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Why? Most of the countries involved have fairly effective court systems, and since a part of any trade deal is targeted retaliation, why is it you think it can't be enforced?
I can see problems in Japan and Korea for starters.
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Quebec has a habit of shifting huge number of votes over tiny emotional issues, witness what happened to the Tories over those arts grants a couple of elections ago.
Or the niqab debate we have just had.
This is such a big deal, literally speaking, I find it extraordinary that you are able to pass judgement on it so
quickly.
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I can see big problems on access to markets and enforcement of provisions in other countries.
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To me, the fitting testament to Flaherty was how he steadfastly supported Rob Ford/Ford family (based on his long-standing ties to the family)... that emotion was genuine and certainly afforded no political favour!
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I've got to say I was impressed with that too. There was nothing to be gained from it, like Mark Steyn's support for Conrad Black though his trial and I wouldn't be exactly the biggest fan of either Black or
Steyn under most circumstances. Maybe the principled thing is to ditch your friends under such
circumstances but I dont think so.
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We moved to Norfolk County on the North Shore of Erie 15 years ago.
Never looked back! BP has dropped 30 points.
Just googled it. Looks like a lovely part of the world and not too far from Hamilton. Father up the lake, I saw Crystal Beach in the winter one time and it was probably not the best time to view it.
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As I've mentioned elsewhere, due to reasons of possible incipient insanity, I am considering a move to Ontario to warm my bones. I have four candidates:
1. Ottawa.
2. Burlington.
3. Kingston.
4. Lake Erie shore, east of Windsor.
One thing that really surprises me in a pleasant way - real estate prices in Ottawa. For an attractive capital city, they seem like fantastic value. Why are they so low?
Toronto, by contrast, does very little for me. I have tried to love the place but it is ugly, crowded, and horribly overpriced. I do not get the world class angle at all. Go to Zurich and see what a transit system should look like, guys.
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Rentals in Florida seem quite expensive compared to buying, not that I am going to buy. Why is that?
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When I listened to Bowie's 'The man who sold the world' over the decades, many interpretations of the lyrics occured to me. Now, I'm thinking there will one day be a man who owns the world and its contents and who sells it to somebody else. We will reach that concentration of wealth if we keep on the current path.
Stripping citizenship.
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That may be a recipe for both sides losing, and intervening countries too.