TheHonorableJordanDent

There are probably more Catholics in Ottawa than Unitarians on planet earth. And yes, numbers count, obviously, or we wouldn't even be talking about gay mariage. If polls showed ninety percent disapproved Paul Martin would be out there defending traditional marriage. As for the numbers, there are about one and a half billion Catholics, and slightly less Muslims. Do the math. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I respectfully disagree, I'm not going to get into the whole "Martin flip flopped" thing, but on the numbers thing I really think you're wrong, of course numbers matter as far as public perception, but what I was saying was in a group of 100 people the 99 who believe one thing have no right to tell the 1 what he can/cannot believe.

That's the thing I'm finding more and more prevelant with my fellow Christians that disturbs me, there seems to be more and more of this "It's our way or the highway, to Hell" type of an argument. I'm more of a laid back person, I believe what I choose to believe, everyone else can do the same, you leave me alone I'll leave you alone type of a thing. When did it become our mandate to police the rest of society?

I agree, having each area of the country represented gives more power to those areas usually under represented. so the West would have the same power as Ontario and the Atlantic Provinces the same as Quebec, etc.

Unitarians support Same sex Marriage. and I don't agree with your point that "Over half the world" are those religions, does that mean that the will of the majority should trump the rights of the minority?

Post <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well the way I look at that is we have to have hard times now so that our children can have it better, personally I don't mind shelling out a bit of extra money now so that my daughter can have a brighter future. That's what I like about our current financial situation, we're paying down the debt. In my opinion this is paramount because it leads to so many other good things through reduction of interest payments. Past governments (Trudeau, Mulroney) destroyed our finances and now when we're just starting to chip away at that mountain of debt we want to lower our income? We've only had balanced budgets for the last 8 or so years, compared to the massive defecits of the 80s that's peanuts. Let's not forget that there were supposed to be Corperate tax cuts in the last budget, which if I rmeember correctly were put in there to satisfy the Conservatives but then they painted the Liberals into a corner by threatening to defeat the government and the Liberals made a deal with the NDP to get rid of them, I think they made a huge miscalculation there, they jumped on the post Jean Brault (sp??) numbers too early, not allowing them to solidify before they made their move. So they not only lost their corperate tax cuts, but also they didn't win the confidence vote either.

I have to vote for full marriage, I'm Christian (not hard core, I rarely attend Church) but I believe in seperation of Church and State because imagine if I lived in a country where Christianity was in the minority I wouldn't want some other religion's ideas of what is right and wrong forced on me. So it doesn't really matter to me, if my religion is right and they are wrong God will punish them by banishing them to Hell and not allowing them to ever feel the divine presence. It's not up to me to tell people how to live their lives.

I have no problem with two-tier health care as long as it's modeled so that it benefits ordinary Canadians, such as those who want to pay for faster care pay taxes on those services or something along those lines. But I'm open to suggestions.

I've never lived in the U.S. so I'll take your word for it, but I just enjoy living in a country where they don't ask for my credit card when I go to the hospital.

Meh, I'm not a Harper fan, but who really expects him to show up at a Gay pride parade? That'd be like The Grand Dragon of the KKK showing up at a Martin Luther King speech. Don't take that as an insult i'm just saying he's vehmently against Homosexuality so why should he support it?

I don't mean to be rude, but why don't you offer up a poll with answers that don't all support one side of the debate? I just read that "new party" post you had and that was a really well put together post, but this is just pure garbage and I won't support it any further than this post.

Oh of course, just Marijuana, Hash, and Shrooms Yeah that party sounds good to me, although I think with the pro choice we should work to discourage abortions. not in the lets harrass women who go to get abortions outside of clinics by screaming at them sense, just through education and offering positive alternatives. I say we give it a name that befits the tradition of the British system we have. The G.Y.N.H.O.P.P. or Guys You've Never Heard Of Political Party. When we win can I be the Heritage Minister?

ooooooooooooooooh kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

I don't know any of you yet so I'm abstaining.

I think this is more of a desperation move, after all he sided with the Bloc to try to bring the government down, so it seems he supports their legitimacy as long as they support what he likes. He just hates this legislation so much at its core he's grasping at straws. As for him not attending the Gay Pride parade I don't blame him, I imagine he would have been swarmed if he went anywhere near it. He obviously thinks homosexuality is an abomination, and he He and most of his caucus are the most anti gay people I've ever seen in Canada.