Derek 2.0

I went back and read the members posts, but don't see anywhere where your points were confirmed......it sounded more akin to Alex Jones tin-foil hat padding.......are you talking about a different thread perhaps?

Provoke violence and to commit violence are two different things………just as an undercover cop can’t kill a person well undercover. I don’t see any Rights violations by the State if police infiltrate radical groups at protests, and in turn, those they are with start torching police cars and smashing Starbucks windows…….and riot police arrest them. I guess I missed that part, I'll reread the thread. What Rights were violated, under our present laws, by police infiltrating protest groups? Likewise, how would Bill C-51 curtail said assumed violated rights further? If police infiltrate a biker gang or terror cell, are they also violating the Rights of criminals and terrorists?

Though not of the same generation as Cronkite, another cut of similar cloth (in my opinion), has also left us.........leaving the stage to Williams generation of entertainment journalism.

After his party has already supported the legislation..........

How so?

Which ones?

The Liberals have stated they will support the legislation as is..........

Such as?

It was your point with regards to undercover police......

And which ones are they going to challenge?

How does C-51 change that?

But you just said:

Good, so what portions of C-51 is the SCC going to have to protect you from?

Undercover cops were arresting people?

Right, so why are you fearful of the legislation, the same legislation also supported by the Liberals?

What was attempted to be buried?

What laws did the police break at the G20? Regardless, I've never suggested all police are infallible, all the time.

So if it wasn't for the largely Harper appointed SCC, the Harper Government would have stripped your rights away by now.......gotcha.

So the right stripping portions of C-51 are buried within the legislation and cannot be seen................

I don’t see how posing as protestors is any different than police posing as would “Johns”, drug users, black market firearms buyers/sellers or would be terrorists etc……..There are distinctions on what can and cannot be done by undercover officers (likewise intelligence officers) so I fail to see the cause of concern………

C-51 allows that? I suppose my opinion would have to be fomented by a given example.........I could be wrong, but I haven't found the section in C-51 that will allow CSIS to conduct "false flag ops" on Canadian soil....

Doing what things? I certainly disapprove of the organs of the State abusing its citizens, who wouldn’t after all, but I don’t see how people fear C-51 will do that……As I said to you in another thread, the crux of C-51 is the interdepartmental sharing of information the Government already legally has on its citizens.

So the Harper appointed SCC will save you from the Harper Government's legislation........makes sense.....so you won't have any rights taken now?

Sarcasm?

Did he? I tend not to read his posts, do you have a cite?