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Yeah unamerican, via the fact Canada parasites a medium... rant, rant, rant... we pay inflated prices... froth, froth, froth... Government can't be bothered... rail, rail, rail... Canada couldn't produce a bow and arrow... blah, blah, blah... Canada is a parasitic Country... immigrant scum, stupid, poopie, poopie, dumb.

And that, kids, is how you save on bandwidth.

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What the American system does is ensure that one party leader can't ram an unwanted program down the people's throat, at least not willingly. We would be most unlikely to get, for example, forced bi-lingualism here. Even health care reform looks doubtful. And if it passes some Senators and Reps will likely be toast.

Who brought Canada Bilingualism, the liberals. The only provice that was french before 1982 was Quebec and that is their legal language. The rest of Canada was English. If you look at the Antics of English Canada in the 60's onward it was no different that what Isreal is doing with their settlements at the protests of the palestinians. This imposing of English Canada lasted for 40 years. Over the last 15 years I have noticed the English media trash has alway used Quebec as a direction of hate and somehow the english commoners were on the same social level as the British Monarch and used terms that we conquered you/Quebec so you people should shut the eff up and let us eff up your province like we have effed up ontario and the rest of Canada. Proof is the pudding.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_demographics_of_Quebec

[edit] Birth rate

At 1.74 children per woman, Quebec's 2008 fertility rate is above the Canada-wide rate of 1.59, Although Quebec is home to only 23.9% of the population of Canada, the number of international adoptions in Quebec is the highest of all provinces of Canada. In 2001, 42% of international adoptions in Canada were carried out in Quebec.

There's the contrast between Quebec and English Canada. They have more children and they are adopting more children. Quebec's growth stategy makes sense in the way of preserving its culture. English Canada is cultural hateful craphole that looks to the US but are a blight to their ancestors or they are lyers for breaking their oath to their beloved queen.

In any case you should be arrested for constorting with descendents of American indepedence traitors, monarch lovers, or poor characters for not abiding by their oath of citizenship.

The English Canadian is one of these four.

They fled 1776 us independence and settled in ontario. (They must have loved the Queen)

They came afterwards and were British settler to Canada (The Bulk of English Canada's population before 1982)

World War Refugees who still had to pledge allegiance to the British Monarch

And New immigrants who had to pledge an oath of allegiance to the British Monarch.

So really English Canada has zero excuse but to love thier Queen.

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Believe it or not, the Queen isn't that old.

The Monarch is a lineage. You talk of the Queen, you talk of the Monarch, past and future. The British Monarch was who the US was breaking away from. It took immense fighting to establish an independent United States. The Canadians spoke of by George washington were contributors to establishing that independence.

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Yeah unamerican, via the fact Canada parasites a medium which they did not create nor have an industry that contributes to the backbone of driving the internet and the internet technologies forward yet you sows through mud at the US. Canada watches mostly US/British produced movies and television shows and lacks to the intellect to produce movies and shows the world wants to watch. The US doesn't try to retire on the sale of food, beer, and gas in Canada we pay inflated prices in the neighborhood of 40 to 50%. We have a gst they have no federal Tax.

Your country invented the Blackberry and had a major hand in inventions such as the telephone. You proudly fought for freedom in Europe in two wars while my country somewhat cravenly (especially in the case of WW II) hung back until forced to join the festivities. You don't come out so badly.
They have an elaborate highway infrastructure which is operated by the US government. Canada's Federal Government can't be bothered with the highway infrastructure.
In your defense again, it is far more complicated and expensive and for far less gain to string a six-lane divided limited access highway from Sudbury to Sault St. Marie to Thunder Bay to Winnipeg than to construct the likes of Interstate 80. Much of the U.S. Interstate system services at least some inhabited areas. How much would Canada really gain by building a gold-plated highway network through so many areas that are either uninhabited or have very few people. The safety issues and costs of properly maintaining, patrolling and securing such a system boggles the mind. Ever think what it would cost to keep a North Bay - Kapuskasing - Moosonee six-laner free of frost heaves?
The US produces and manufacturers it own military weaponary. Canada couldn't produce a bow and arrow without collaborating with the know how of other countries.
The demise of the AVRO wasn't entirely Dief's fault.

Canada is a parasitic Country that has rode the coat tails of the world for to long. Canada's claim to fame is bringing in other countries losers and rejects who couldn't make it the country they left so they come here to canada. Wow is it any wonder why Canada is the backass Country it is today.

See above. Canada has a proud history and present, and is hardly parasitic in the Zimbabwe sense.
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Hum... I'm not a simpleton, I don't think so. I just think that if you elect a government, it's a bit idiotic to also elect someone to eventually also impede it.

Logically, you vote for the party who have the plans you prefer for the future of the country (at least for the next few years), so what's the point to elect also someone to impede it decisions? The USA system looks pretty much redundant and dysfunctioning to me.

Right...............The only thing dysfunctional is your brains logic. Do you think the people of Ontario voted the Conservatives in to build the 407 at taxpayers expense to only turn around and sell it for a pittance. The 407 is run by theives and is a raping of anyone who uses it. It cost 20 dollars to go from the 400 to hamilton. If I took toll highways in the states to Florida, which is 3000 Km it would not amount to that.

Guess who makes up the corrupt harper Conservatives. You guessed it, the same ontario conservative politicians that screwed up ontario.

The people have a right to checks and balances. The US president is independent and independently elected from the congress. However, the Congress can fire the president if he steps out of the bounds of the constitution. Canada's system is designed for the governor generals office to monitor the actions of the prime minister and his cabinet. If the Governor general will not do this and is just a rubber stamp it is time for Canadians to ask the British Monarch to allow Candians to elect a governor general who will represent the monarch in Canada.

This is not exactly a republic but at least Canadians will no longer be abused by the Conservatives and the liberals. Canada is a testament absolute power corrupts. Majority Conservative Governments is the reason Canada is the Garbage country it is and lacks the infrasture, innovation and fertility rates to grow in step with the US.

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Quebec has much more than just the French in it, or didn't you know that? In addition many Quebecers leave the province, and those may or may not be French speaking.

I suggest you check out that link in my prior post. Quebec represents 25% of Canada's population. French is the language in use. Only 20 percent are using other languages. Quebec has a population growth stategy. That is more what can be said for English trash Canada.

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I suggest you check out that link in my prior post. Quebec represents 25% of Canada's population. French is the language in use. Only 20 percent are using other languages. Quebec has a population growth stategy. That is more what can be said for English trash Canada.

Quebec is Quebec! They are a distinct society. They pass laws to preserve that society, so what? I dislike Bill 101 because I think it is a flawed document, but I am guessing that you feel the opposite way. They had a policy of paying people to have babies at one point if I recall correctly. You might think that is a good idea, I think it a waste of tax dollars. To counter your point I would say that in Canada 75% of the population is English speaking and has French shoved up our ass by a province who cooks its books to stay on the dole.

You can trash whomsoever you like, it labels you as a trash artist. A legacy fit for you if nobody else.

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Your country invented the Blackberry and had a major hand in inventions such as the telephone.

As a lawyer you should pay more attention to the origins of their technology (the US) as they were being sued for patent infringement.

You proudly fought for freedom in Europe in two wars while my country somewhat cravenly (especially in the case of WW II) hung back until forced to join the festivities. You don't come out so badly.

Canada fought in both world wars by British conscription and as British subjects. Furthermore, the people of Quebec refused to participate and protested the involvement of Canada. Once again 1867 Canada's history is somewhat muddy. If Canada was so proud of their contribution then they should show it by having Nov 11 as stat holiday as it is in the US and FRANCE. Yes France has Nov 11 as a National holiday because they are willing to show the world they are grateful for the events of WW2. As for Canada, it is the most ungrateful arrogant country deserving of a beating.

In your defense again, it is far more complicated and expensive and for far less gain to string a six-lane divided limited access highway from Sudbury to Sault St. Marie to Thunder Bay to Winnipeg than to construct the likes of Interstate 80. Much of the U.S. Interstate system services at least some inhabited areas. How much would Canada really gain by building a gold-plated highway network through so many areas that are either uninhabited or have very few people. The safety issues and costs of properly maintaining, patrolling and securing such a system boggles the mind. Ever think what it would cost to keep a North Bay - Kapuskasing - Moosonee six-laner free of frost heaves?

If you look at how the US is is laid out with its highways, the states themselves, and the legal framework and institutions it makes the US scalable and in a position to grow. Canada's donkey politicians couldn't scale themselves out of a wet paper bag they are more about the pittance money they siphon for vain ends. They think nothing of the Trillion dollars the US printed off and gave to china when the chinese wanted their money from US treasury bill. Canada pulls in maybe 250 million in tax revenue. It will take Canada 4 years of hard work to match one night of US currency printing. The US dollars is still holding strong in spite of this.

Canada would be better served to start learning from the US rather than looking for ways to slam it.

The demise of the AVRO wasn't entirely Dief's fault.

Canada should have developed a backbone and defended the industry. Canada should have also developed a backbone and propped up Nortel rather than let it get sold off for small time nothing. The contrast, the US did what was necessary to elevate the auto industry and the Financial industry. Canada's politician obviously think the world is coming to an end in 2012 and they will stop at nothing until Canada is......oh too late a banana republic

See above. Canada has a proud history and present, and is hardly parasitic in the Zimbabwe sense.

Canada is not pulling its weight on the world scene. It's model is the importing of immigrants which really accomplishes low wages and poor working conditions with the idea they will support products destined for the US. Canada has no interest in micro economics and because of this Canada is what it is. Canada is corruptly governed and lacks the checks and balances to be a democracy. Canada operates like a communist regime and does not see Canadians as human beings but as vehicles to extract inflated taxes compared to the US and providing nothing for those tax dollars other than the fact politicians and civil servants own ten bedroom homes and drives BMW suvs. I wish I was joking here, but sadly that is the life carved out for them at the expense of Canadians.

Get rid of the Corrupt conservatives.

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Quebec is Quebec! They are a distinct society. They pass laws to preserve that society, so what? I dislike Bill 101 because I think it is a flawed document, but I am guessing that you feel the opposite way. They had a policy of paying people to have babies at one point if I recall correctly. You might think that is a good idea, I think it a waste of tax dollars. To counter your point I would say that in Canada 75% of the population is English speaking and has French shoved up our ass by a province who cooks its books to stay on the dole.

You can trash whomsoever you like, it labels you as a trash artist. A legacy fit for you if nobody else.

Need I say anything more. You proven my points. <_< You obviosly don't read, either. Canada was not bilingual until after 1982 and this was thanks to the liberals. It had nothing to do with Quebec. Quebec did not shove french up Canada's ass, the Liberals did. I suggest you put down the bong and gets some fresh air to clean out your congested polluted brain.

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As a lawyer you should pay more attention to the origins of their technology (the US) as they were being sued for patent infringement.

Canada fought in both world wars by British conscription and as British subjects. Furthermore, the people of Quebec refused to participate and protested the involvement of Canada. Once again 1867 Canada's history is somewhat muddy. If Canada was so proud of their contribution then they should show it by having Nov 11 as stat holiday as it is in the US and FRANCE. Yes France has Nov 11 as a National holiday because they are willing to show the world they are grateful for the events of WW2. As for Canada, it is the most ungrateful arrogant country deserving of a beating.

If you look at how the US is is laid out with its highways, the states themselves, and the legal framework and institutions it makes the US scalable and in a position to grow. Canada's donkey politicians couldn't scale themselves out of a wet paper bag they are more about the pittance money they siphon for vain ends. They think nothing of the Trillion dollars the US printed off and gave to china when the chinese wanted their money from US treasury bill. Canada pulls in maybe 250 million in tax revenue. It will take Canada 4 years of hard work to match one night of US currency printing. The US dollars is still holding strong in spite of this.

Canada would be better served to start learning from the US rather than looking for ways to slam it.

Canada should have developed a backbone and defended the industry. Canada should have also developed a backbone and propped up Nortel rather than let it get sold off for small time nothing. The contrast, the US did what was necessary to elevate the auto industry and the Financial industry. Canada's politician obviously think the world is coming to an end in 2012 and they will stop at nothing until Canada is......oh too late a banana republic

Canada is not pulling its weight on the world scene. It's model is the importing of immigrants which really accomplishes low wages and poor working conditions with the idea they will support products destined for the US. Canada has no interest in micro economics and because of this Canada is what it is. Canada is corruptly governed and lacks the checks and balances to be a democracy. Canada operates like a communist regime and does not see Canadians as human beings but as vehicles to extract inflated taxes compared to the US and providing nothing for those tax dollars other than the fact politicians and civil servants own ten bedroom homes and drives BMW suvs. I wish I was joking here, but sadly that is the life carved out for them at the expense of Canadians.

Get rid of the Corrupt conservatives.

Yet the facts are the facts. These things have been done, and we are the worse for it. I usually disagree with your posts, but here you have made some valid points.

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Yet the facts are the facts. These things have been done, and we are the worse for it. I usually disagree with your posts, but here you have made some valid points.

As a lawyer you should pay more attention to the origins of their technology (the US) as they were being sued for patent infringement.

Obviously RIM is still making the Blackberry.

Canada fought in both world wars by British conscription and as British subjects.

Not in WW II. That changed in 1931. And even in WW I the Canadians fought far better and more bravely than the British.
Furthermore, the people of Quebec refused to participate and protested the involvement of Canada.
True.

Once again 1867 Canada's history is somewhat muddy. If Canada was so proud of their contribution then they should show it by having Nov 11 as stat holiday as it is in the US and FRANCE. Yes France has Nov 11 as a National holiday because they are willing to show the world they are grateful for the events of WW2. As for Canada, it is the most ungrateful arrogant country deserving of a beating.

No. Canada is not ungrateful. The ROC is hamstrung by one ungrateful and leeching province.

If you look at how the US is is laid out with its highways, the states themselves, and the legal framework and institutions it makes the US scalable and in a position to grow. Canada's donkey politicians couldn't scale themselves out of a wet paper bag they are more about the pittance money they siphon for vain ends.

Again, I made pragmatic points. Why would one build a six or even four-lane divided highway from say Sudbury to Winnipeg? How many people really live on the northern beaches of Gitchi-goomie Lake Superior aside from Sault Saint Marie and Port Arthur and Fort Williams Thunder Bay?
They think nothing of the Trillion dollars the US printed off and gave to china when the chinese wanted their money from US treasury bill. Canada pulls in maybe 250 million in tax revenue. It will take Canada 4 years of hard work to match one night of US currency printing. The US dollars is still holding strong in spite of this.
Not strong enough IMO. I do not think we're heading to ruin but B. Hussein Osama President Obama is doing his level best.

Canada would be better served to start learning from the US rather than looking for ways to slam it.

True, but sibling rivalry is a natural part of life.
Canada is not pulling its weight on the world scene. It's model is the importing of immigrants which really accomplishes low wages and poor working conditions with the idea they will support products destined for the US. Canada has no interest in micro economics and because of this Canada is what it is.
Huh?
Canada is corruptly governed and lacks the checks and balances to be a democracy. Get rid of the Corrupt conservatives.

Nothing like the corruption of the Liberals in ADSCAM. Edited by jbg
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Obviously RIM is still making the Blackberry.

Yes they are because the people behind RIM are all business and highly educated. The conservatives should have made sure they got Nortels assets.

Not in WW II. That changed in 1931. And even in WW I the Canadians fought far better and more bravely than the British.

Really, How is it the Canadians fought in World War II as Citizens yet the British never stopped being

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/othernationality/britishsubjects/

Until 1949, nearly everyone with a close connection to the United Kingdom was called a British subject. And all citizens of Commonwealth countries were British subjects until January 1983. Since that date, very few categories of people have qualified as British subjects.

Odd since World War II ended in 1945. Try Reading a book, how you ever became a Lawyer is beyond me. God help whoever you represent. They are definately not good hands.

True.

Yes, their position was why should they fight to help their Occupiers.

No. Canada is not ungrateful. The ROC is hamstrung by one ungrateful and leeching province.

Ungrateful Province? Buddy Quebec fell under British Occupation in 1759. Twenty years later the Canadians of Quebec/Canada/Nouvelle France fought 4 years along side to bring about an independent United States. The were betrayed by Benedict Arnold and the Continental Congress for not helping the Marquis Lafayette spearhead a final attempt to regain Canada from British Occupation. The Correspondence of this can be found in the Library of Congress online. Also more can be found in Archives of the Dialogue of Kings of France around the time they wanted Quebec/Canada back. Not only was Quebec/Canada betrayed by an ungrateful United States this support bankrupted France and led to the French Revolution in 1779. This Revolution Rocked Europe to its core and destabalized Europe for 40 years. The Historical Strokes the led to the establishment of the United Shows and demonstrates the only ungrateful is likeminded people such as YOU!.

Fortunately for the US, the US machine is much bigger than you and in spite of your ingratious attitude the US will be propelled forward. Just Remember that every time you look at the statue of Liberty because she is telling you to go eff yourself.

Again, I made pragmatic points. Why would one build a six or even four-lane divided highway from say Sudbury to Winnipeg? How many people really live on the northern beaches of Gitchi-goomie Lake Superior aside from Sault Saint Marie and Port Arthur and Fort Williams Thunder Bay?

Because Canada would be and have been in a position to Grow and Accomodate increase in population. The population of England is 50 million. You can fit 5 Englands in Ontario. All being Equal Ontario should be 250 million strong. Ontario will never be anything with the simpleton Conservatives at the Helm.

Not strong enough IMO. I do not think we're heading to ruin but B. Hussein Osama President Obama is doing his level best.

Hardly, Obama is doing his best to clean up after bush's incompetent presidency. Obama was more sizzle than steak but at least I will say he is more genuine than Bush.

True, but sibling rivalry is a natural part of life.

Rivalry, more sibling Cluelessness. Canada has obviously been smoking to much of BC's pot because they are too strung out to grip the reality of what it means to be a successful Country.

Huh?

Obviously, you are economic simpleton. Local business require customers. Local busines do not thrive unless people have money to spend. In southern Ontario we have Blue Mountain Skiing, many golf course, and of course the retail stores that need shoppers. The Conservatives have successfully move Canadians back too 1990 wage levels at the retail prices of 2009. Doesn't match. Because of this Businesses are in deep deep trouble. I will have to believe in the Cosmic order of things the corrupt conservative will ultimately get what they deserve for their communist style governance.

Nothing like the corruption of the Liberals in ADSCAM.

Perhaps it was a scam but at least it stimulated the local economy. What was enron? But at least in Enron, the hand US justice came to bare. What came of the debacle in Canada.

Once again you help affirm that Canada is corrupt country that lacks the checks and balances of the US.

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...Fortunately for the US, the US machine is much bigger than you and in spite of your ingratious attitude the US will be propelled forward. Just Remember that every time you look at the statue of Liberty because she is telling you to go eff yourself.

Ummmm...OK...but she would be saying it in French, as that's where the Statue de la Liberté came from in direct contradiction to your claim above.

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Ummmm...OK...but she would be saying it in French, as that's where the Statue de la Liberté came from in direct contradiction to your claim above.

http://www.textkit.com/learn/ID/144/author_id/65/

Keeping with the Editors' commitment to presenting a variety of Greek dialects, Selections from the Septuagint from the College Series of Greek Authors (CSGA) is a unique departure from the traditional Attic and Homer dialects.

Using scholastic logic, French, English, Italian, Spanish, German, are dialects of Latin as they are using the Latin/Roman Alphabet. French/English are nothing more than splitting hairs. The fact is, Quebec has its history and is making its own cultural and governing decision. You want to function in Quebec you better learn French. You want to function in the US you better learn English.

Using your logic will Jesus understand anything you have to say because he didn't speak English. Cars don't have accidents, people do. Guns don't kill, people kill. A language is a tool, nothing more. English Canada has a bad attitude and needs to wake up and get with the program.

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...Using your logic will Jesus understand anything you have to say because he didn't speak English. Cars don't have accidents, people do. Guns don't kill, people kill. A language is a tool, nothing more. English Canada has a bad attitude and needs to wake up and get with the program.

In any language, you have missed the larger point entirely. The Statue de la Liberté was a gift from France to the USA to commemorate their friendship and support during the American Revolution, not betrayal over Quebec.

Jesus likely spoke Aramaic, but a fish is a fish in any language.

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Really, How is it the Canadians fought in World War II as Citizens yet the British never stopped being

Canadians didn't fight in the Second World War as citizens because there was no citizenship law at the time to define what a Canadian citizen was. Then again, Brits weren't citizens until 1949 either. As to their never stopping being: that's a rather existential topic perhaps beyond the scope of this website; or this world, for that matter.

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In any language, you have missed the larger point entirely. The Statue de la Liberté was a gift from France to the USA to commemorate their friendship and support during the American Revolution, not betrayal over Quebec.

Jesus likely spoke Aramaic, but a fish is a fish in any language.

You missed my point. My point was jbq is ungrateful to the forces that brought about the us. The statue of liberty represents this. Because he is in nY I am saying she is telling jbg to go eff himself. clear enough for you.

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Canadians didn't fight in the Second World War as citizens because there was no citizenship law at the time to define what a Canadian citizen was. Then again, Brits weren't citizens until 1949 either. As to their never stopping being: that's a rather existential topic perhaps beyond the scope of this website; or this world, for that matter.

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come back to earth and get a grip. The uS people have been citizens since 1776 with voting right except for their slave servants of course. The world certainly knows what the difference between being a citizen and a subject. The way canadians are treated by the corrupt conservatives nothing has changed. Still being treated as subjects and not citizens.

the way to change that is for Canadians to elect the governor general to represet the british monarch. That way we can fire the PM before they wreck the country with thei incompetance

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Need I say anything more. You proven my points. <_< You obviosly don't read, either. Canada was not bilingual until after 1982 and this was thanks to the liberals. It had nothing to do with Quebec. Quebec did not shove french up Canada's ass, the Liberals did. I suggest you put down the bong and gets some fresh air to clean out your congested polluted brain.

I have no idea what your fixation on drug use really means, but let me tell you something, please. I think that you have trouble with reading comprehension. I don't think you really read other peoples posts as much as you interpret them to your own liking. With as due respect I would suggest YOU do some reading up on our constitution. Start with the original 1867 version.

Try section 133;

Although the 1867 law did not establish English and French as Canada's official languages, it did provide some rights for both languages in some institutions of the federal and Quebec governments. Section 133 allowed bilingualism in Parliament and the Quebec legislature, allowed for records to be kept in both languages, and allowed bilingualism in federal and Quebec courts. Interpretation of this section has found that this provision requires that all statutes and delegated legislation be in both languages and be of equal force.[4] Likewise, it has been found that the meaning of "courts" in section 133 includes all federal and provincial courts as well as all tribunals that exercise an adjudicative function.[5] These rights are duplicated in respect to the federal government, but not Quebec, and extended to New Brunswick, by section 17, section 18, and section 19 of the Charter of Rights; section 16 and section 20 of the Charter elaborate by declaring English and French to be the official languages and allowing for bilingual public services.

If you would read a little deeper with a little more understanding you may find that Quebec had something to do with the talks regarding the 1982 version of the Constitution. Where did the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada, who was also the Prime Minister come from anyway? Do you think for one minute that there was no attempt to appease such a large portion of the population while the Constitution was on the table? Do you think that it could have past the approval of the provinces without provisions desired by Quebec?

Perhaps you are correct to say that Quebec didn't shove it up our ass, it was inserted that way because the people of Quebec wanted it that way, and the way forward to achieve that was through the elected government of the day. Had that government been Conservative the same effort would have been made. You may or may not recall that the Charlottetown Accord went down in flames as a RESULT OF THE Conservative efforts at social engineering, and they had a vast majority in the Commons at the time, but it is up to the provinces to determine matters of the Constitution, not the Federal Government now is it. In that respect whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Therefore it wasn't really the Liberal Party of Canada responsible for the 1982 Constitution now was it, but instead the provinces. In this specific case, how many provinces do you think would have wanted this nation to be bilingual? Name them please....

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The world certainly knows what the difference between being a citizen and a subject.

Maybe it does and maybe it doesn't. Of no matter, though, to your erronious claim that Canadians fought in World War II as British conscripts; by 1939 the British government had zero ability to command the mobilisation of Canadian troops.

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