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So if I knew How to fly this cyber ship well enough, I could figure out how to set up a pole using a political question that would ferret out the participants inner political core.

It would be an experiment into answering the question that has been taking up quite a bit of reflection and observation time for me since 1992.

Do Humans Have A Political Gene?

What do you think, are we born with our basic political filters or do we establish them due to concious effort, learned experiences?

Do we look at the world, from birth, through a Political filter which colours all we see?

Can a true Conservative ever be persuaded by a left argument, no matter how elegant?

Is there not also a third subset of humans, those that are non political?

How do you feel?

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I think this is a great question. Unfortunately, I don't have any substantial answer to add to the discussion. If anyone can provide any sort of evidence, it might lead to some interesting discussion.

If you follow the column up from the bottom to the title Left side Right side

You will see my original(amateur) work on it.

http://technocrat.net/d/2006/11/3/10052

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I think this is a great question. Unfortunately, I don't have any substantial answer to add to the discussion. If anyone can provide any sort of evidence, it might lead to some interesting discussion.

If you follow the column up from the bottom to the title Left side Right side

You will see my original(amateur) work on it.

http://technocrat.net/d/2006/11/3/10052

Oh dear. I thought political 'studies' won out over political 'science' a decade ago.

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With some exceptions, I'd say political views are mostly based on selfish motives. If you're a student, you want to vote for the party that promises to freeze or lower tuition. If you're a union worker, you vote for a pro-union party. If you're a CEO of a corporation, you vote for the party that promises tax breaks to big business. If you're a recent immigrant, you vote for the party that promises to make it easier for you to get some more of your family members into the country. If you identify with a nation that is in a conflict, you support the party that is seen to be more supportive of that nation. And so on and on. Just about everyone has an issue that is important to them personally that different parties disagree on.

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Do Humans Have A Political Gene?

Aristotle says 'man is a political animal'.

I'm inclined to think we are indeed infected with political genes.

What do you think, are we born with our basic political filters or do we establish them due to concious effort, learned experiences?

Statistical analysis shows that people inherit them from their parents with alarming frequency.

This suggests a 'nurture' environment.

Do we look at the world, from birth, through a Political filter which colours all we see?

Absolutely. We are always trained to see the world through the bias of our parents or our peer group or our nationalism or our religion or our political partisanship or our sexual partisanship, etc.

Can a true Conservative ever be persuaded by a left argument, no matter how elegant?

Absolutely. I was trained to be a political conservative from birth. My father is American and ex-Air Force. Up until the age of 25, I was a conservative. Eventually, I found reasons to question it. I believe it was an argument about the reasons for the US dropping of the a-bomb on Hiroshima that triggered it.

Is there not also a third subset of humans, those that are non political?

Yes, they are called the ignorant. Unfortunately, this subset overlaps with those who are political.

How do you feel?

Mildly amused. Your questions were rather trite.

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So if I knew How to fly this cyber ship well enough, I could figure out how to set up a pole using a political question that would ferret out the participants inner political core.

It would be an experiment into answering the question that has been taking up quite a bit of reflection and observation time for me since 1992.

Do Humans Have A Political Gene?

What do you think, are we born with our basic political filters or do we establish them due to concious effort, learned experiences?

Do we look at the world, from birth, through a Political filter which colours all we see?

Can a true Conservative ever be persuaded by a left argument, no matter how elegant?

Is there not also a third subset of humans, those that are non political?

How do you feel?

I don't think people have a political gene.

I spent all of high school and most of university as a left wing socialist whiner.

Over time I got smarter and more independant-thinking. I started to realize that not everything my pantywaiste prof says is the truth, and actually got out into the world and earned my own way with your own intelligence.

I believe that my former left wing bias has actually made me even more conservative because I look back at my former rationales and it makes me laugh and laugh and laugh. And seeing other people try to use the very same arguments on me that I used to espouse myself just drives me even further to the right in the knowledge that people who espouse the left just never really graduated in their thinknig the way I did.

My two cents ;)

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LOL great post Jerry, it's true that university students tend to be left/left wingers but as the grow mature and age they lean less towards the hard hateful left. As we age we become more conservative in our politics, one can only take so much abuse of our tax money without snapping.

I don't think we have a gene that makes us prefer one political ethos over another. I hold all politicians and their action's accountable, I'm neither a Liberal or a Conservative supporter. I vote for the person and party that best suits my principles, I'll never blindly follow a political party.

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