The Power of Prayer

[betsy]

...hey, to each his own!

Does that view of yours apply to the secular marriages of same-sex individuals?

If not, why not?

What does "to each his own" translate to you? That you should convert to my religion? Practice my own belief?

Am I your keeper?

No. I'm just wondering if your stated view of "to each his own" applies to you minding your own, and letting others mind their own when it comes to (secular) same sex marriages.

I don't know what same-sex marriage got to do with this but just to satisfy you, I'd say it's none of my business what people's sexual preferences are. It becomes my business when it is being rammed down my throat and forcing/coercing me to change my belief.

Seems the majority of political opposition to secular same sex marriage comes from people who hold similar religious views to you. So I ask, does your "to each his own" apply to secular same sex marriage? Will you mind you own or do you grant yourself exceptions to the rule when it is convenient?

Same sex marriage is now legal. The law had given them the right to marry. I have to respect that legal right. Besides, the opposition was about the changing of the traditional definition of marriage.

I would say if the "rule" of "to each his own" is to be followed, then gays should've just thrown their hands in the air and said unanimously..."Okay, darn! We tried. So let's have our own name for this blasted thing! Let them keep their blasted marriage! Ours will be better! Hmp!"

[betsy]

I really don't think people calculate the odds when praying for a child with an incurable illness to recover.

We do not know how we would feel or think when faced with such a harrowing situation...when we're consumed by grief. It is a human tendency to lash out at someone or anything when we are in pain.

You know what I pray for? That God does not put me to the test. And if He does, that I may find the courage and the strength to face whatever comes my way....that I may not fail His test.

There is one individual who had inspired me with the strength of his faith. He was a Christian farmer who had lost all his 8 children and wife in a fire about 3 years ago. He was asked at that time while he was burying his dead, how he was dealing with it. And he said that it is his faith in God that keeps him strong.

Imagine the pain of losing all.

Gotta wonder if he asked God "Why?"

Perhaps, since he was feeling extreme pain. And if he did....could it be wrong in the eyes of God to ask?

After all, didn't Jesus, as human, ask God, "Father, why hast thou forsaken me?"

Only God knows. Only God will judge.

Edited July 16, 2007 by betsy

[stignasty]

I prayed to the Jug of Milk and my prayers for a nice creamy bowl of Kraft Dinner were answered. Away with the unbelievers!!

Well, good for you!

If your god is the jug of milk....hey, to each his own!

I think I'll pray to my jug of milk for you to develop a sense of humour.

[betsy]

I prayed to the Jug of Milk and my prayers for a nice creamy bowl of Kraft Dinner were answered. Away with the unbelievers!!

Well, good for you!

If your god is the jug of milk....hey, to each his own!

I think I'll pray to my jug of milk for you to develop a sense of humour.

Thank you.

[Mad_Michael]

I don't know what same-sex marriage got to do with this but just to satisfy you, I'd say it's none of my business what people's sexual preferences are. It becomes my business when it is being rammed down my throat and forcing/coercing me to change my belief.

No surprise there.

So now I will call "bullshit" on your attempts to assert "to each his own". You don't believe that at all. You just say that when it is convenient to do so and ignore it when you want to make it your business.

Like I said, no surprise.

I only choose the 'same-sex marriage' example as the most clear cut way to show that your assertion of "to each his own" was pure bullshit. You don't mind your own business. You make it your business to interfere with others. Typical double-talking hypocritical theist.

[Mad_Michael]

Same sex marriage is now legal. The law had given them the right to marry. I have to respect that legal right. Besides, the opposition was about the changing of the traditional definition of marriage.

I would say if the "rule" of "to each his own" is to be followed, then gays should've just thrown their hands in the air and said unanimously..."Okay, darn! We tried. So let's have our own name for this blasted thing! Let them keep their blasted marriage! Ours will be better! Hmp!"

I guess the comedic interlude is just a bonus!

[jefferiah]

I prayed to the Jug of Milk and my prayers for a nice creamy bowl of Kraft Dinner were answered. Away with the unbelievers!!

Well, good for you!

If your god is the jug of milk....hey, to each his own!

I think I'll pray to my jug of milk for you to develop a sense of humour.

Thank you.

ha see....prayer does work

[betsy]

I don't know what same-sex marriage got to do with this but just to satisfy you, I'd say it's none of my business what people's sexual preferences are. It becomes my business when it is being rammed down my throat and forcing/coercing me to change my belief.

No surprise there.

So now I will call "bullshit" on your attempts to assert "to each his own". You don't believe that at all. You just say that when it is convenient to do so and ignore it when you want to make it your business.

Like I said, no surprise.

I only choose the 'same-sex marriage' example as the most clear cut way to show that your assertion of "to each his own" was pure bullshit. You don't mind your own business. You make it your business to interfere with others. Typical double-talking hypocritical theist.

Eh?

Can't you read? Or did you conveniently overlooked this?

I said:

It becomes my business when it is being rammed down my throat and forcing/coercing me to change my belief.

What? It's not enough that I respect the new right that they have?

Do I have to change my belief to make you guys happy? You gotta be kidding me!

Anyway...whatever. Bullshit away to your heart's content until the cows come home....

If that's how you understand it...hey, what can I say. C'est la vie.

Edited July 17, 2007 by betsy

[betsy]

Same sex marriage is now legal. The law had given them the right to marry. I have to respect that legal right. Besides, the opposition was about the changing of the traditional definition of marriage.

I would say if the "rule" of "to each his own" is to be followed, then gays should've just thrown their hands in the air and said unanimously..."Okay, darn! We tried. So let's have our own name for this blasted thing! Let them keep their blasted marriage! Ours will be better! Hmp!"

I guess the comedic interlude is just a bonus!

No.

You get a comedic reply for a comedic question.

Edited July 17, 2007 by betsy

[jefferiah]

I don't know what same-sex marriage got to do with this but just to satisfy you, I'd say it's none of my business what people's sexual preferences are. It becomes my business when it is being rammed down my throat and forcing/coercing me to change my belief.

No surprise there.

So now I will call "bullshit" on your attempts to assert "to each his own". You don't believe that at all. You just say that when it is convenient to do so and ignore it when you want to make it your business.

Like I said, no surprise.

I only choose the 'same-sex marriage' example as the most clear cut way to show that your assertion of "to each his own" was pure bullshit. You don't mind your own business. You make it your business to interfere with others. Typical double-talking hypocritical theist.

Eh?

Can't you read? Or did you conveniently overlooked this?

I said:

It becomes my business when it is being rammed down my throat and forcing/coercing me to change my belief.

What? It's not enough that I respect the new right that they have?

Do I have to change my belief to make you guys happy? You gotta be kidding me!

Anyway...whatever. Bullshit away to your heart's content until the cows come home....

If that's how you understand it...hey, what can I say. C'est la vie.

Mike you seem to be saying that "tolerance" does not just mean tolerating what another does but condoning it. I am not sure where Betsy stands on same-sex marriage, but there is no double talk in what she says. She is not stopping same sex marriages. Therefore she is allowing "to each his own", but that does not mean she has to condone it. Not condoning an action does not mean you are interfering with it.