One shot at democracy in Ontario?

[Rue]

Quite right. Consider Israel. Israel is for the most part a nation of secular jews who would be quite happy dancing every friday night and having bacon cheese burgers on saturday ......

But becasue of PR the ultra religious parties get seats ...so any party that wants to form a government must include the ultra religious in their cabinets or at very least allow the ultra religious concessions that the majority of israelis would rather be ignored.....

Your point was missed above but it is precisely why I do not think the PR system is a good one. If you look at PR in Israel or the PR system in Italy as two classic examples of how it works, the PR system in fact creates a permanent minority government put together by coalitions often of temporary alliances that produces a chaotic unstable form of government.

I like our system precisely because it is more stable and not as subject to paralysis from these shaky coalitions that prevent government not enhance it.

In theory PR sounds democratic but in reality it does the exact opposite-because it creates so much squabbling, no one's views get served you just have countless fights and stalemates.

Thanks but if it aint broken why does it need to be fixed? Other then Leafless who feels Communist Francophone non Christian people with skin tans have destroyed the country, and a handful of academic geniuses who live in the world of theory and shun the world of practicality, who wants the PR system?

No thanks. If I want constellations of feuding factions, I can go to a wrestling match and watch the steroid baboons.

Edited July 20, 2007 by Rue

[M.Dancer]

Quite right. Consider Israel. Israel is for the most part a nation of secular jews who would be quite happy dancing every friday night and having bacon cheese burgers on saturday ......

But becasue of PR the ultra religious parties get seats ...so any party that wants to form a government must include the ultra religious in their cabinets or at very least allow the ultra religious concessions that the majority of israelis would rather be ignored.....

Your point was missed above but it is precisely why I do not think the PR system is a good one.

Chanks.....