jdobbin Posted April 25, 2007 Author Report Posted April 25, 2007 Ahh, Tim Horton's is a little too high class for me, it doesn't have that small town coffee shop atmosphere that your trying to refer to, Tim Horton's tries though. Sounds like your small town coffee shop might also prefer that their taxes didn't help pay for Harper's make-up. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted April 25, 2007 Report Posted April 25, 2007 I think the government should pay for the PM to look reasonable. I think those that believe otherwise are dillusional, this is common practice everywhere in the world. Do we have evidence of that? What other countries? Story # 1. Link Tony Blair and Bertie Ahern. Story # 2. Link George W. Bush. Those countries would be the United Kingdom, Ireland and the United States. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Shakeyhands Posted April 25, 2007 Report Posted April 25, 2007 I think the government should pay for the PM to look reasonable. I think those that believe otherwise are dillusional, this is common practice everywhere in the world. Thats not the point. Harper was ALL over others on the same issue. What it is costing us as taxpayers should be revealed. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
jdobbin Posted April 25, 2007 Author Report Posted April 25, 2007 What it is costing us as taxpayers should be revealed. You're correct about that. If Harper feels it is necessary, he should stand in the House of Commons and say so. He should also reveal how much said staff person is being for. I find no evidence that other countries have a make-up artist on staff who travels with the prime minister on foreign junkets. Quote
guyser Posted April 25, 2007 Report Posted April 25, 2007 How dare he try and look professional and who cares what he said about Manning and his wardrobe. Just wanted to help you out here. Wouldn't want you to forget the gist of the complaint. Quote
jdobbin Posted April 25, 2007 Author Report Posted April 25, 2007 Column from Victorial on Harper's image maker. http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonis...56-2bde8b347dee But why in the name of common decency are the taxpayers picking up Muntean's salary and travel costs, as the government finally admitted, after some stalling. Sure, Harper is representing the country when he goes abroad. But so are our soldiers, and they don't have personal primpers.Bad enough that this practice is effete and narcissistic. Worse, making the public pay reeks of the same sense of entitlement that befouled Ottawa under the Liberals. I don't think I would have gone as fas the last paragraph. Yeek. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted April 25, 2007 Report Posted April 25, 2007 How dare he try and look professional and who cares what he said about Manning and his wardrobe. Just wanted to help you out here. Wouldn't want you to forget the gist of the complaint. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Michael Bluth Posted April 26, 2007 Report Posted April 26, 2007 Exactly. Where does this post come from? Context? Was wondering if you blatantly falsified the attribution or just posted from a different thread without providing any context. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
guyser Posted April 26, 2007 Report Posted April 26, 2007 Where does this post come from? Context? Was wondering if you blatantly falsified the attribution or just posted from a different thread without providing any context. I thought you would get it. Oh well. See the debate was about Harper getting on Manning , and now Stevie is doing the same. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted April 26, 2007 Report Posted April 26, 2007 I thought you would get it. Oh well.See the debate was about Harper getting on Manning , and now Stevie is doing the same. Already dealt with this one, but here goes again. Harper got on Manning about having his clothes paid for. Nobody has suggested the Government of Canada is paying for Harper's clothes. That's why it is a false "debate". Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
jdobbin Posted April 26, 2007 Author Report Posted April 26, 2007 See the debate was about Harper getting on Manning , and now Stevie is doing the same. Some people will never see the connection or deny one exists. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted April 26, 2007 Report Posted April 26, 2007 I thought you would get it. Oh well.See the debate was about Harper getting on Manning , and now Stevie is doing the same. Already dealt with this one, but here goes again. Harper got on Manning about having his clothes paid for. Nobody has suggested the Government of Canada is paying for Harper's clothes. That's why it is a false "debate". Just.. wow. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Michael Bluth Posted April 26, 2007 Report Posted April 26, 2007 Just.. wow. Thank you Shakey. I never expected to leave you speechless. It is a pretty cut and dried difference. Good on you for recognizing it. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Shakeyhands Posted April 26, 2007 Report Posted April 26, 2007 Just.. wow. Thank you Shakey. I never expected to leave you speechless. It is a pretty cut and dried difference. Good on you for recognizing it. oh dear... ;-) Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
mikedavid00 Posted April 26, 2007 Report Posted April 26, 2007 This used to be a big deal when Harper was back in the Reform part. This is a good sign when we've gone from talking about theft of millions of dollars from us taxpayers to who is paying for a makeup artist. Harper is the PM of a G8 nation for God's sake. He deserves to have his wardrobe, limo's and hair and makeup paid for becuase he is a public figure. This was just a grasp at a straw by a left wing journalist. Pathetic at that. Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
Shakeyhands Posted April 26, 2007 Report Posted April 26, 2007 This used to be a big deal when Harper was back in the Reform part. This is a good sign when we've gone from talking about theft of millions of dollars from us taxpayers to who is paying for a makeup artist. Harper is the PM of a G8 nation for God's sake. He deserves to have his wardrobe, limo's and hair and makeup paid for becuase he is a public figure. This was just a grasp at a straw by a left wing journalist. Pathetic at that. Again.... not the point. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Michael Bluth Posted April 26, 2007 Report Posted April 26, 2007 Again.... not the point. There is the rub. There is no point here. A pathetic attempt at the Liberals trying to gain back power. Nothing more. Nothing to see here. Move along... Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Fortunata Posted April 26, 2007 Report Posted April 26, 2007 Pointing out the honest, ethical Steve Harper is a hypocrite is not a point? Just Liberal (and other non Conservative) spin to wrestle power from a harpercritical government? So when does saying one thing and doing another count as a point? If it is not a Conservative? Quote
Martin Chriton Posted April 26, 2007 Report Posted April 26, 2007 Pointing out the honest, ethical Steve Harper is a hypocrite is not a point? Just Liberal (and other non Conservative) spin to wrestle power from a harpercritical government? So when does saying one thing and doing another count as a point? If it is not a Conservative? Should our PM have access to some kind of stylist? Yes of course. Look at how big of deal some people in this Country make over what our PM wears, it's obviously important to some. Should he/his party foot the bill for excessive use? Yes. Should the public have access to know the stylists salary? If it's being paid with public funds, yes. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted April 26, 2007 Report Posted April 26, 2007 Pointing out the honest, ethical Steve Harper is a hypocrite is not a point? Just Liberal (and other non Conservative) spin to wrestle power from a harpercritical government? So when does saying one thing and doing another count as a point? If it is not a Conservative? Should our PM have access to some kind of stylist? Yes of course. Look at how big of deal some people in this Country make over what our PM wears, it's obviously important to some. Should he/his party foot the bill for excessive use? Yes. Should the public have access to know the stylists salary? If it's being paid with public funds, yes. Exactly, I'm sure no one cares if he uses someone to help look better. The problem is the hypocrisy of slamming others and his out right refusal to disclose what she is being paid. It's too bad some just don't get this. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
jdobbin Posted April 26, 2007 Author Report Posted April 26, 2007 Should our PM have access to some kind of stylist? Yes of course. Look at how big of deal some people in this Country make over what our PM wears, it's obviously important to some.Should he/his party foot the bill for excessive use? Yes. Should the public have access to know the stylists salary? If it's being paid with public funds, yes. It is now 41 days to go before the question has to be answered in Parliamentary committee. How long does it take to calculate the numbers? How long will these questions go unanswered? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvJbYBMhZs&NR=1 Quote
sharkman Posted April 26, 2007 Report Posted April 26, 2007 Wow J, you really know how to string out a debate on nothing. You must be involved in politics. Quote
jdobbin Posted April 26, 2007 Author Report Posted April 26, 2007 Wow J, you really know how to string out a debate on nothing. You must be involved in politics. Declare what the expense is and justify it and the debate is over. After that, people can decide if it is an issue. At the moment, the government just ignores it and Harper supporters say it all about nothing. It isn't. It's taxpayer money that is hidden somewhere in the government coffers and unavailable for scrutiny. Quote
cybercoma Posted April 26, 2007 Report Posted April 26, 2007 It's good to know that everything is going so well in the world that Harper's fashion consultant is 14 page news. Quote
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