Topaz Posted April 1, 2007 Report Posted April 1, 2007 I heard Williams talk about the problem with Harper, on CTV today, his broken promises, and I feel he's telling the truth. One of his point was that NFLD doesn't have a large support in Parliament so Harper could break the promise and not feel threatened of it affecting an election. Harper is doing what is good for the Alliance party and any of the former PC'ers of that party, should be ashamed of themselves for allowing his bully to do what he is doing to this country. Again, Harper could NEVER been elected PM by going as an Alliance and former PCer's should cross the floor and sit as an independent and bring back the PC's!! Quote
geoffrey Posted April 1, 2007 Report Posted April 1, 2007 Bring back the PC's? Oh ya, that was a successful run. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Michael Bluth Posted April 1, 2007 Report Posted April 1, 2007 Is this another April fool's joke? Maybe the Conservatives should just pass a law guaranteeing the Liberals the Prime Ministership into perpetuity. If the "former PCers" crossed the floor and formed their own party back that is what would happen. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
B. Max Posted April 1, 2007 Report Posted April 1, 2007 Again, Harper could NEVER been elected PM by going as an Alliance and former PCer's should cross the floor and sit as an independent and bring back the PC's!! I thought they were back. All that's been happening lately has the Mulrony red tories finger prints all over it. Quote
jbg Posted April 2, 2007 Report Posted April 2, 2007 If the "former PCers" crossed the floor and formed their own party back that is what would happen.Which one? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Michael Bluth Posted April 2, 2007 Report Posted April 2, 2007 If the "former PCers" crossed the floor and formed their own party back that is what would happen.Which one? I beg to differ. I think the "Progressive Canadians" now have four or five members. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
jbg Posted April 2, 2007 Report Posted April 2, 2007 If the "former PCers" crossed the floor and formed their own party back that is what would happen.Which one? I beg to differ. I think the "Progressive Canadians" now have four or five members. Joe Hueglin's group? (link) Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Topaz Posted April 4, 2007 Author Report Posted April 4, 2007 Again, Harper could NEVER been elected PM by going as an Alliance and former PCer's should cross the floor and sit as an independent and bring back the PC's!! I thought they were back. All that's been happening lately has the Mulrony red tories finger prints all over it. I think if you counted the members of the Conservatives, you will find more are former Alliance members than PC'ers. Quote
Cameron Posted April 4, 2007 Report Posted April 4, 2007 Well, the way I see it, Ottawa gave Danny and Rodney a choice. Keep 100% of your Off-shore profits or get a new equalization package. It can be a tough cookie to swallow if you are unsure of your offshore profits. But if you want ultimate security you can take the new equalization package. I don't think Ottawa broke the deal, they just gave them a choice. Have your cake OR the icing. Quote Economic Left/Right: 3.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.26 I want to earn money and keep the majority of it.
geoffrey Posted April 5, 2007 Report Posted April 5, 2007 I think if you counted the members of the Conservatives, you will find more are former Alliance members than PC'ers. If you look at actual policy, instead of rhetoric, you'd realise your looking at the most liberal government Canada ever has had. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
jdobbin Posted April 5, 2007 Report Posted April 5, 2007 If you look at actual policy, instead of rhetoric, you'd realise your looking at the most liberal government Canada ever has had. This is what they might have planned if they get their majority. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...PStory/National The government's motion to repeal gay marriage was ultimately defeated 175-123 last December and after the vote, Prime Minister Stephen Harper told reporters: "I don't see reopening this question in the future."Asked yesterday about the documents, a spokeswoman for Justice Minister Rob Nicholson said the government "has no intention of bringing forward such legislation." When asked whether such legislation could be introduced if the Conservatives had a majority, spokeswoman Genevieve Breton said: "I'm not going to speculate on what can happen in the future, but at this point, it's definitely not there." The Oct. 4 Globe report triggered a furor in the House of Commons, with the Liberals accusing the Conservatives of planning to "legalize discrimination against the gay and lesbian community." Under fire in Question Period later that day, the Prime Minster urged the Liberals not to "engage in unfounded speculation about what this government is proposing." The response to The Globe's request was delivered to the newspaper's Ottawa office on Friday afternoon as MPs were leaving town for a two-week recess. The documents show Lisa Hitch, the Justice Department's senior counsel, held a meeting last September to discuss the existing protections for religious freedoms contained in the Civil Marriage Act passed in 2005 under the Liberals. She also sent e-mails to her colleagues titled "Possible amendment to the Criminal Code." Ms. Hitch's reference materials included a private member's bill on religious freedom, since defeated in the Alberta legislature, from Conservative MPP Ted Morton, with links to socially conservative websites such as campaignlifecoalition.com; lifesite.net; evangelicalfellowship.com and a website that does not currently work called "http://www.thescaryliberals.com/blog." Quote
Michael Bluth Posted April 5, 2007 Report Posted April 5, 2007 Wow. The disinformation has no limits. From the selective editing it appears that the proposed legislation would happen to be about the legal definition of marriage. Read the article and you'll see the truth. Why lie? Is that the only way to bring back *scary* *scary* *scary*? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
geoffrey Posted April 5, 2007 Report Posted April 5, 2007 I thought you were a little more objective than that Dobbin... that is the most speculative article I've recently read. The Globe also reported that the measures were intended to protect the free-speech rights of religious leaders and others who criticize homosexual behaviour. The report was based on confidential sources and a partial confirmation from then-justice minister Vic Toews. Oh, that's so scary. Protecting the Bible from a human rights complaint. Whoop de do. I've heard quite enough about this scary majority business. Harper is smarter than to throw away his party's entire future... the party is smart enough not to let him. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
jdobbin Posted April 5, 2007 Report Posted April 5, 2007 I thought you were a little more objective than that Dobbin... that is the most speculative article I've recently read.Oh, that's so scary. Protecting the Bible from a human rights complaint. Whoop de do. I've heard quite enough about this scary majority business. Harper is smarter than to throw away his party's entire future... the party is smart enough not to let him. If it is not going to be brought back why not categorically say so? And why black all all the documents if they aren't going to be policy? Quote
Michael Bluth Posted April 5, 2007 Report Posted April 5, 2007 Oh, that's so scary. Protecting the Bible from a human rights complaint. Whoop de do. I've heard quite enough about this scary majority business. Harper is smarter than to throw away his party's entire future... the party is smart enough not to let him. *scary* *scary* *scary* is all the lefties have these days. It is so vapid and unimaginative that they Liberals must have something more to fight the next election on. Something tells me Harper will outline any plans for a Defence of Religion Act early on in the election. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
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