guyser Posted March 25, 2007 Report Posted March 25, 2007 , and Ottawa has seen fit to officially try and stop Americans and their media from dominating culture north of the border. How so? Oh and if you come back with FOX news , you will have already lost. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2007 Report Posted March 25, 2007 Suuure... And I suppose you have some source of statistics to back up your wild claim? Yes....there are about 240 countries or nations in the world, depending on the agreed definition of a sovereign state. In order for Canada's government not to be guilty of bombing/killing more than most at the 90 percent threshhold, it would have to be less lethal than about 24 other nations in the world as official government policy. Recent history makes this a tough sell (e.g. Haiti, Afghanistan, Serbia/Kosovo, and Iraq) based on actual military engagements and/or strike missions. One could argue that the actual list of candidates is quite small based on military capability and alliances, but that's how the cookie crumbles. Either way, Canada is a member of the special club that officially kills other nationals to achieve policy goals. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 1. Not deflecting2. Didn't find your commentary at all biting 3. Not at all against my liking 4. But still off topic. If you had connected the dots between Canadian media content managment and anti-Americanism in your initial post, then, it's on topic. But you didn't do that. If you want to talk about TV content restrictions without establishing anti-americanism as its basis, start a thread on that topic. Just a friendly suggestion. Like I said...deflecting. Thank you for proving my point. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 Suuure... And I suppose you have some source of statistics to back up your wild claim? Yes....there are about 240 countries or nations in the world, depending on the agreed definition of a sovereign state. In order for Canada's government not to be guilty of bombing/killing more than most at the 90 percent threshhold, it would have to be less lethal than about 24 other nations in the world as official government policy. Recent history makes this a tough sell (e.g. Haiti, Afghanistan, Serbia/Kosovo, and Iraq) based on actual military engagements and/or strike missions. One could argue that the actual list of candidates is quite small based on military capability and alliances, but that's how the cookie crumbles. Either way, Canada is a member of the special club that officially kills other nationals to achieve policy goals. So, do you have any source of statistics to back up your claim???? I have been aware of my perception of the US and Americans since I was about 10 years old. For whatever reason it was, I came to an early conclusion I do not like the US government, and to a lesser extent the citizens of the country. I tried to be observant as a child, but really did not get into the reasoning of my thoughts untill the past few years. As a child, I thought I did not like the US. As an adult, I know I don't like the US, and to a lesser extent the ideology of the American Dream and all that it encompasses. To me it is years of having 'WE ARE # 1' 'USA USA USA' ect ect throw out all over the place. I don't like to judge people themselves to quick, for I would be a damn fool. But I can say I do not like the collective that are the American Citizens. Many are proud Americans. Many are smart Americans. Hell, many are even clean Americans. Also as a child, I was proud of being a Canadian. I am still proud to be Canadian, but I can no longer be proud of our government and the officials who run the show. Damn gotta run, I shall expand on this. Quote
ScottSA Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 I would be interested to know if the Americans really did bring all of this on themselves with all of their bravado over democracy and such. I mean, if world opinion differentiates between Americans and the U.S. Administration, then perhaps people are beginning to get ticked off because they perceive that Americans should be able to reign in their government, since they live in such a " wonderful " country, but they don't see that happening. Thus, they can only conclude that the average American condones the actions of the Administration, even if they say they don't. We can all thank God we're next to that big mean old country. For one, it allows us to save bucketloads of cash that would otherwise go to the military, since the US provides strategic deterence for us, with the added benefit of adopting smarmy attitudes and scoffing at its "militarism". Plus, we can sign treaties like kyoto, then blithely ignore them while trying to shame the US into being as piously hypocritical as us. On top of all that, we can run around making great global efforts like land mine treaties that everybody except countries which use landmines sign, cluck around the UN acting as if we have some clout, and generally make a nuisance of ourselves whilst angsting over such earth shattering issues as whether homosexuals can wear wedding gowns. Canada is pretty much divorced from reality, and we couldn't afford to be if the US wasn't there to tuck us in at night. But everyone hates dad, right? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 ...To me it is years of having 'WE ARE # 1' 'USA USA USA' ect ect throw out all over the place. I don't like to judge people themselves to quick, for I would be a damn fool. But I can say I do not like the collective that are the American Citizens. Many are proud Americans. Many are smart Americans. Hell, many are even clean Americans. Also as a child, I was proud of being a Canadian. I am still proud to be Canadian, but I can no longer be proud of our government and the officials who run the show. Damn gotta run, I shall expand on this. As you wish....Canada can easily hide the me-too policies shadowed by the larger footprint of American foreign policy. But it's there if you look for it. Sherene Razack's "Dark Threats & White Knights - The Somalia Affair, Peacekeeping, and the New Imperialism" raises issues not easily explained away by "human rights" or "the Responsibility to Protect". Such rhetoric is as false as WMDs in Iraq. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Canadian Blue Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 We can all thank God we're next to that big mean old country. For one, it allows us to save bucketloads of cash that would otherwise go to the military, since the US provides strategic deterence for us, with the added benefit of adopting smarmy attitudes and scoffing at its "militarism". If the US doesn't to protect us, they don't have to. The US militarism is exactly why the world is angry at Bush, because it seem's that they were always more willing to use military power instead of diplomacy. By the way, I don't know if you know this but diplomacy has worked a few times. Another interesting fact is, get this, Iraq didn't have WMD's. Plus, we can sign treaties like kyoto, then blithely ignore them while trying to shame the US into being as piously hypocritical as us. On top of all that, we can run around making great global efforts like land mine treaties that everybody except countries which use landmines sign, cluck around the UN acting as if we have some clout, and generally make a nuisance of ourselves whilst angsting over such earth shattering issues as whether homosexuals can wear wedding gowns. I don't mind letting gays marry. So, we're retarded because we lobby against the use of land mines? Wow, that makes me feel ashamed to be a Canadian. Canada is pretty much divorced from reality, and we couldn't afford to be if the US wasn't there to tuck us in at night. But everyone hates dad, right? I wish we were situated somewhere in between one of the Scandinavian countries, that would seem alright. I don't mind American's, but at times one wonders whether or not some of that money on defence can be put to better use. I think they were developing a ray gun, why not put that money towards something useful like education or health care. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 I wish we were situated somewhere in between one of the Scandinavian countries, that would seem alright. I don't mind American's, but at times one wonders whether or not some of that money on defence can be put to better use. I think they were developing a ray gun, why not put that money towards something useful like education or health care. OK....we'll start with the "defence money" that ends up in Canada. Canadian unemployment dropped to 4% during the Vietnam War! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
ScottSA Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 I wish we were situated somewhere in between one of the Scandinavian countries, that would seem alright. I don't mind American's, but at times one wonders whether or not some of that money on defence can be put to better use. I think they were developing a ray gun, why not put that money towards something useful like education or health care. OK....we'll start with the "defence money" that ends up in Canada. Canadian unemployment dropped to 4% during the Vietnam War! How distressing. Capitalism and war production all rolled into one. Far better that we should just print money and shovel it into our oh-so-superior healthcare system so that we don't all die waiting in line for the doctor to see us... Quote
Liam Posted March 28, 2007 Author Report Posted March 28, 2007 ...4. But still off topic. If you had connected the dots between Canadian media content managment and anti-Americanism in your initial post, then, it's on topic. But you didn't do that. If you want to talk about TV content restrictions without establishing anti-americanism as its basis, start a thread on that topic. Just a friendly suggestion. Like I said...deflecting. Thank you for proving my point. I'm not at all deflecting. I think you raise an interesting discussion topic and something I'd be happy to discuss (in another thread). The reason for my initial response was that you did absolutely nothing to connect the issues of content management in the Canadian media with the original point of the post, which was a growing dislike of American people (not the US government, not US institutions -- like media organizations). If you make the connection, then your point is on topic. Quote
guyser Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 Far better that we should just print money and shovel it into our oh-so-superior healthcare system so that we don't all die waiting in line for the doctor to see us... Since no one is , why bring it up? Why the homophobia in an otherwise good post? ..wedding dresses? Quote
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