9/11

PolyNewbie · January 24, 2007

Black Dog:You forget a third option: that he's in on it. For all we know, Alex Jones is collecting fat cheques from the N.W.O. to spread misinformation

Mainstream media is, I doubt Jones is. Jones talks about monetary reform, there is no way the globalists would fund that. Mainstream media is under complete corporate control. That fact has been shown on mainstream media when they announced the media almalgomations.

PolyNewbie · January 24, 2007

guyser:Perhaps the official version is impossible

It is.

guyser: I have some questions about it too. But to debunk the entire thing based onyour knowledge of physics is pretty darn goofy.

Why ? The physics to see when something is impossible is not all that difficult. If I told you that I threw a ping pong ball through a 3 foot thick wall of concrete you would no that I was lying and that it was impossible.

Riverwind · January 24, 2007

Why ? The physics to see when something is impossible is not all that difficult. If I told you that I threw a ping pong ball through a 3 foot thick wall of concrete you would no that I was lying and that it was impossible.

Your problem is you spent too much time building lego towers when you were a kid and you cannot seem to understand that skyscrapers do not behave like towers of lego. That is why your 'understanding' of physics is worthless.

frogs · January 25, 2007

This proves you are NOT TOTALY FREE. You are a slave to the New World Order. European Union, African Union, North American Union, (soon a pan asian union and South America) The world is getting 'divided' up into 5 regions on the planet, then eventually replaced by a World Government. The UN is a part of that process.\

Truer words was never spoke.

Freedom is either free or dom. Freedom does not cost, it is free of cost. Taxation is dom.

frogs · January 25, 2007

Actually, it doesn't matter if 911 was inside, outside, or riverside. The enemies to people, are the political thieves and the people that run them. End taxation, and wars are over. End monopolies, and people can enjoy life richly all around the world. Keep monopolies, people starve. Doesn't matter who did what. Just eliminate taxation and monopolies, and everything falls into place quite simply and naturally. Keep monoplies, the world has no chance no matter who does what.

PolyNewbie · January 25, 2007

frogs:Keep monoplies, the world has no chance no matter who does what.

The banks are the biggest monopoly of them all by a long shot.

kimmy · January 25, 2007

the N.W.O.

OMG, Black Dog, do you think that this whole thing is a gigantic scam to invade Iran and take the belt back from the Iron Sheikh?

-k

guyser · January 25, 2007

frogs:Keep monoplies, the world has no chance no matter who does what.

The banks are the biggest monopoly of them all by a long shot.

Hey Einstein , here you go...do some reading , and some editing too next time, it will save the embarassment you surely suffer.

Monopoly: In economics, a monopoly (from the Latin word monopolium - Greek language monos, one + polein, to sell) is defined as a persistent market situation where there is only one provider of a product or service. Monopolies are characterized by a lack of economic competition for the good or service that they provide and a lack of viable substitute goods. [1]

Oh wait, now you will tell us Bof M, TD-Canada Trust, Bof NS, Duclos, Royal Bank....are ALL owned by one entity.

Bistmaster · January 26, 2007

All I have to say about this topic is

a) Read the 9/11 commission report. If you're not convinced then, and you want the gritty details of the science behind the tower's collapse then

PM me or email me for a copy of a report that I filed about this issue. All of it is fact, no editorialization, no opinion, no bull.

Riverwind · January 26, 2007

PM me or email me for a copy of a report that I filed about this issue. All of it is fact, no editorialization, no opinion, no bull.

Care to explain why your report is the definitive word on the subject?

PolyNewbie · January 26, 2007

Riverwind:Care to explain why your report is the definitive word on the subject?

There are lots of reports that prove 911 was an inside job using facts. It doesn't matter if the facts were listed by a monkey.

Riverwind · January 26, 2007

There are lots of reports that prove 911 was an inside job using facts. It doesn't matter if the facts were listed by a monkey.

We been over this many times - every so called 'fact' you have ever produced is easily debunked. Your inside job theory is full of holes which you admit exist. The fact that you continue to cling to this theory simply illustrates your capacity for self delusion.

Drea · January 26, 2007

And Riverwind your continuation of clinging to the "official" theory simply illustrates your capacity for self delusion.

The towers notwithstanding -- LOOK at the pictures of the pentagon. Come on now. You can see with your own eyes that a big jet airliner did not hit it.

Sheesh.

People will follow so blindly... it simply amazes me.

Here ---> What Really Happened

a good many Americans with their heads screwed on straight are questioning their govt. This website is more comprehensive than just 911. It looks at all kinds of lies by the American govt's past and present.

or try this one:

Question 911

Open your eyes! Think! Analyze! Question!

Do ANYTHING except follow like a blind sheep.

Riverwind · January 26, 2007

The towers notwithstanding -- LOOK at the pictures of the pentagon. Come on now. You can see with your own eyes that a big jet airliner did not hit it.

Hundreds of witnesses disagree - even some of the truthies reject the idea that there was no plane.

Here is a site run by a truthie. He states

Claims that no jetliners were involved in the attack on the World Trade Center, the attack Pentagon, or the crash in Pennsylvania have been aggressively promoted and featured in the mainstream media. As a result many people have falsely equated the 9/11 Truth Movement with the 'no-jetliners' theories. We do not endorse such theories

Think about it: even some truthies think a plane hit the pentagon. That is a pretty good sign that the evidence supporting that version of the events is irrefutable.

Drea, the only blind sheep I see are people who are addicted to believing in the irrational fantasies peddled by the truthies.

Drea · January 26, 2007

No, I LOOKED at the photographs (with my eyes) of the Pentagon and came to the conclusion that an airliner could NOT have hit it or there would have been airliner parts and body parts.

Or

Perhaps they have invented a new jet -- one with disappearing wings?

Come on.

We all saw jets fly into the towers. I was not questioning that.

NO ONE saw an jet liner slam into the Pentagon.

PolyNewbie · January 26, 2007

The document called Seven Hours In September written by a colonel in the press corp (independently) shows her eyewitness account of the explosions going off 5 minutes before a plane ever hit the Pentagon.

She also explains that the people that were investigation the 2.3 trillion that was announced by Rumsfeld on Sept 10 2001 were all killed except one who was later heavily promoted.

guyser · January 26, 2007

No, I LOOKED at the photographs (with my eyes) of the Pentagon and came to the conclusion that an airliner could NOT have hit it or there would have been airliner parts and body parts.
Or

Perhaps they have invented a new jet -- one with disappearing wings?

Come on.

We all saw jets fly into the towers. I was not questioning that.

NO ONE saw an jet liner slam into the Pentagon.

So the video of the jet hitting it is fake? It was released by the pentagon sometime last year.

Who knew?

Drea · January 26, 2007

Released last year? Why the hell wait 5 years?

:rolleyes: ... and there is no such thing as "computer enhanced movies" either

Look here Pentagon

Don't read the text -- just scroll down a bit and LOOK at the photograph... no jetliner, no body parts, no tail section, no luggage, nothing to lead us to believe an airliner hit it. Just a relatively small (compared to an airliner) hole. That's it.

or try this one: http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pen.../erreurs_en.htm

guyser · January 26, 2007

Don't read the text -- just scroll down a bit and LOOK at the photograph... no jetliner, no body parts, no tail section, no luggage, nothing to lead us to believe an airliner hit it. Just a relatively small (compared to an airliner) hole. That's it.

Amazing website, no axe to grind at all. "govsucks.com ...ya kidding?

Another failing at physics here.

The plane crashed into the pentagon. Not the plane crashed into the lawn and THEN the pentagon. Momentum dictates that all materials keep moving forward unless another stress is placed on it.

Canadian Blue · January 26, 2007

No, I LOOKED at the photographs (with my eyes) of the Pentagon and came to the conclusion that an airliner could NOT have hit it or there would have been airliner parts and body parts.

Yeah, I was looking for oxygen with my eyes when I was a child but came to the conclusion it doesn't exist since I couldn't find it.

So you're saying that the hundreds of eyewitnesses are wrong, not to mention all of the civil engineer's and investigators who say a plane hit the pentagon.

Don't read the text -- just scroll down a bit and LOOK at the photograph... no jetliner, no body parts, no tail section, no luggage, nothing to lead us to believe an airliner hit it. Just a relatively small (compared to an airliner) hole. That's it.

What do you think would happen if a jet hit the pentagon going at full speed and blew up upon impact.

As for the relatively small hole, that's the stupidest thing I've heard, and it's not representative of the actual impact.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

Not to mention it makes no sense for a government to hijack a plane, and then fire a missile at the Pentagon instead. Why not just fly the plane into the Pentagon.

PolyNewbie · January 27, 2007

CanadianBlue:So you're saying that the hundreds of eyewitnesses are wrong, not to mention all of the civil engineer's and investigators who say a plane hit the pentagon.

Name some of these people. I don't think there are many civil engineers that support the official version.

Canadian Blue · January 27, 2007

http://www.awitness.org/journal/pentagon_p...jet_quotes.html

http://www.icivilengineer.com/News/WTC/pentagon.php

Their you go Polynewbie.

It's odd that you haven't been able to find any engineers who disagree with the official events, well atleast credible engineers, so far you can only maybe at best a dozen scientists who have been shunned by the rest of the scientific community.

PolyNewbie · January 27, 2007

CanadianBlue:It's odd that you haven't been able to find any engineers who disagree with the official events, well atleast credible engineers, so far you can only maybe at best a dozen scientists who have been shunned by the rest of the scientific community.

These people get in a lot of trouble for stepping up and speaking the truth. They loose their jobs and become un hireable for companies seeking government contracts.

Canadian Blue · January 27, 2007

Charlie Sheen still has a job.

Here's the thing when we ever have real proof, you always go to this mode of blaming it all on external sources that nobody can argue because it's all imaginary. Many 9/11 revisionist's still have their jobs.

Riverwind · January 27, 2007

These people get in a lot of trouble for stepping up and speaking the truth. They loose their jobs and become un hireable for companies seeking government contracts.

Of course, you refuse to consider the more likely explaination that people do not speak because the truthie theories are a pile of rubbish.