Canadian Blue Posted March 18, 2007 Report Posted March 18, 2007 http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories My own personal feelings on this is that it's a huge mistake for a number of reason's. The number one being that Peter Mackay has a large amount of support, and the Green Party has very little support, in fact Alberta is more of a base of support than Nova Scotia. The riding next door in Cape Breton would have been a better go, primarily because it could be considered more soft, and I think the Green's have a better chance of siphoning off votes from all three parties there. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Michael Bluth Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 My own personal feelings on this is that it's a huge mistake for a number of reason's. The number one being that Peter Mackay has a large amount of support, and the Green Party has very little support, in fact Alberta is more of a base of support than Nova Scotia. The riding next door in Cape Breton would have been a better go, primarily because it could be considered more soft, and I think the Green's have a better chance of siphoning off votes from all three parties there. I think it is a miscalulation on her part. I am guessing she hopes that other Green party members can win and one will resign their seat for her after she loses to MacKay. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Canuck E Stan Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStoriesMy own personal feelings on this is that it's a huge mistake for a number of reason's. The number one being that Peter Mackay has a large amount of support, and the Green Party has very little support, in fact Alberta is more of a base of support than Nova Scotia. The riding next door in Cape Breton would have been a better go, primarily because it could be considered more soft, and I think the Green's have a better chance of siphoning off votes from all three parties there. Think of it this way,the last time a woman got close to Petey she switched parties. My theory is that the reason the Liberals are so gung ho about Lizzy going against Petey is they are hoping she too will eventually join the Liberals. You heard it here first. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
jdobbin Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStoriesMy own personal feelings on this is that it's a huge mistake for a number of reason's. The number one being that Peter Mackay has a large amount of support, and the Green Party has very little support, in fact Alberta is more of a base of support than Nova Scotia. The riding next door in Cape Breton would have been a better go, primarily because it could be considered more soft, and I think the Green's have a better chance of siphoning off votes from all three parties there. You think Cape Breton would be better? The Liberal MP won by a huge margin there. MacKay won by far less a margin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Breton%E2%80%94Canso Honestly, I don't know anywhere in Canada where it would be easy for her to break in, do you? Quote
Michael Bluth Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Honestly, I don't know anywhere in Canada where it would be easy for her to break in, do you? Easy? No. But are there more realistic ridings? Why go after a senior cabinet minister? Why not some backbencher? Lower mainland area? Vancouver Island? Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Canadian Blue Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Posted March 19, 2007 The reason why I suggested Cape Breton was because that was where she was originally intending to run from interviews she had done, as well the riding is more to the left side than Mackays riding. Elizabeth May probably has a better chance of winning Edmonton Strathcona than Central Nova. Their are more realisitic ridings where she could get a breakthrough. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
jdobbin Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 The reason why I suggested Cape Breton was because that was where she was originally intending to run from interviews she had done, as well the riding is more to the left side than Mackays riding. Elizabeth May probably has a better chance of winning Edmonton Strathcona than Central Nova. Their are more realisitic ridings where she could get a breakthrough. I think the same percentage of people vote other than Conservative in both ridings. The reasons I think she chose the riding she did is because of organization and the possibility the Liberals won't run hard against her. Quote
Canadian Blue Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Posted March 19, 2007 If I was the Green Party leader, the type of riding I would choose is one with a strong progressive, environmental base. As well chances are more than likely that alot of the Green support will come from the Liberal's and the New Democrats. I don't see that in Central Nova, I think that a more suitable riding would be one in lets say Vancouver Island, Edmonton Strathcona, London, etc. One poll had Green Party support nearly eclipsing the Liberal's in Alberta. Even if the Liberal's don't run a tough campaign in Central Nova, it won't be enough, as the New Democrat's finished second last time around, and I highly doubt they will simply allow the Green's to triumpth. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Figleaf Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Why go after a senior cabinet minister? Why not some backbencher? Because Pinocchio is vulnerable on the integrity front, and integrity is one of her strong cards. Quote
Catchme Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 The Liberals are going to run a nobody there, to try to unseat MacKay, he barely won last election. It will depend now on who will run for the NDP. May is going to go Liberal Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
Michael Bluth Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 The Liberals are going to run a nobody there, to try to unseat MacKay, he barely won last election. He won by 6,200 votes. 40.6% to 32.9% for the second place Liberal. That is pretty far form "barely winning". Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Canadian Blue Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Posted March 19, 2007 The New Democrats came in a strong second, not the Liberal's. Even if let's say the Green and Liberal vote combined, it still wouldn't be enough to bring in May. I wouldn't say he barely won the last election. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
NowDefeatPoverty Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Not suicide, but I hope she bring plenty of water. And plenty of backhand bitchslaps for any lippy little Conservative kids she meets along her jog. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Not suicide, but I hope she bring plenty of water. And plenty of backhand bitchslaps for any lippy little Conservative kids she meets along her jog. Wow. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
leonardcohen Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party_of_Canada Judging from the incremental increases in voting for the party election to election, i can't see it translating into a seat for her or any other Green,even with the chicken little voters scared into their camp from the warming climate kerfluffle. Green+ Gorsuki = 1-2% increase in popular vote= NO SEATS Quote Whatever Thy Hand Finds To Do- Do With All Thy Might!
Canadian Blue Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Posted March 19, 2007 Nowdefeatpoverty is simply jenny. As you can tell, the level of intelligence is on the same level. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Michael Bluth Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Nowdefeatpoverty is simply jenny. As you can tell, the level of intelligence is on the same level. I didn't think posters here were allowed more than one screen name. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
NowDefeatPoverty Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Nowdefeatpoverty is simply jenny. As you can tell, the level of intelligence is on the same level. If you don't capitalize the words "defeat" and "poverty", it is no longer a pun. Idiot. How intelligent is it to vote in the only party whose policy position is not to decriminalize THC and subsequently will not increase RCMP rape murder and organized crime fighting resources by 50% (the amount of police resources devoted to petty narcotics)? How intelligent is it not to fund daycare for children with dumb parents, and instead fund negative ROI prisons along with lining the pockets of people who already have 5 figure annual discretionary incomes? As far as I can tell there are a bunch of spoiled middle class brats in this country, 36% to be precise, who are happy seeing our long-term social fabric hacked for plasma TVs and stuff. The Conservative prohibition position results in more women getting raped and murdered. They would have caught Pickton much earlier if weed was legal. How many women are being raped tonight because Conservatives are NARCS? I bet five. And one of them could be you, Canadian Blue. Quote
madmax Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 The Liberals are going to run a nobody there, to try to unseat MacKay, he barely won last election. He won by 6,200 votes. 40.6% to 32.9% for the second place Liberal. That is pretty far form "barely winning". That was the NDP in 2nd place. Their numbers rose in 2004 and again in 2006. And 6000 votes is a pretty good cushion. Quote
madmax Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Nowdefeatpoverty is simply jenny. As you can tell, the level of intelligence is on the same level. If you don't capitalize the words "defeat" and "poverty", it is no longer a pun. Idiot. Baylee. Stephen Dion, Other times, you are George Harper, Stephen Bush, Jenny and nowdefeatpoverty and I am certain I missed a few. You have issues. You will get banned again. Quote
madmax Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Nowdefeatpoverty is simply jenny. As you can tell, the level of intelligence is on the same level. I didn't think posters here were allowed more than one screen name. Some people are repeatedly banned. You will soon be able to identify people with these behavioural traits. Quote
Canadian Blue Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Posted March 19, 2007 How many women are being raped tonight because Conservatives are NARCS? I bet five. And one of them could be you, Canadian Blue. Sorry, as it has been said on here before I am a New Democrat, but not particularly ideological. If you don't capitalize the words "defeat" and "poverty", it is no longer a pun. Idiot. Can't be that much of an idiot, since I seem to be talking rationally, and don't make generalization's based on nothing but blind ideological beliefs. How intelligent is it to vote in the only party whose policy position is not to decriminalize THC and subsequently will not increase RCMP rape murder and organized crime fighting resources by 50% (the amount of police resources devoted to petty narcotics)? How intelligent is it not to fund daycare for children with dumb parents, and instead fund negative ROI prisons along with lining the pockets of people who already have 5 figure annual discretionary incomes? Income tax trusts.... I didn't think posters here were allowed more than one screen name. Baylee has been known to use multiple screen names. It seem's a passion of one person to be trolling here as much as possible. The Conservative prohibition position results in more women getting raped and murdered. They would have caught Pickton much earlier if weed was legal. What, that's a stretch. So if Pickton was allowed to smoke weed, he wouldn't have killed all those prositutes. As far as I can tell there are a bunch of spoiled middle class brats in this country, 36% to be precise, who are happy seeing our long-term social fabric hacked for plasma TVs and stuff. From what I hear, most people are "middle class". Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
madmax Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Who knows if May will actually run there. She said she would run in London again. She could change her mind. My personal view is that she should run where there isn't an NDP base. There are plenty of rural regions where the green vote is higher then the NDP vote. These regions have never, and never will vote NDP to any large degree. But they will vote green. I think May could do far better in a rural riding where the Green Vote is already higher then the NDP. She could go after both the CPC and Lib votes. That said, I am starting to find her pretty flakey. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 I think May could do far better in a rural riding where the Green Vote is already higher then the NDP. She could go after both the CPC and Lib votes.That said, I am starting to find her pretty flakey. That's a fair suggestion for her. I do agree with the flaky part. I saw her on QP today and she referred to herself as an MP. Not quite yet Elizabeth... Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Canadian Blue Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Posted March 19, 2007 I hope that May can come up with something a little bit more convincing than the "scary, scary, scary," theme. If she does that in an election, I doubt people will come out to vote for her, if anything they'll vote Liberal, and I know that I won't vote for her if that's the only theme she has. Most people want a party that doesn't engage in constant partisan bickering, which I think is why quite a few people find the Green Party an attractive alternative. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
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