Catchme Posted March 17, 2007 Report Posted March 17, 2007 Interesting, Briony Penn, prominent Green Party member, has left the party to run as a Liberal in BC, and E May herself is running in Central Nova apparently with the help of the Liberal Party, so it would seem voting Green is now really voting Liberal. SID TAFLER Special to The Globe and Mail VICTORIA Briony Penn, a leading light of the environmental movement on the West Coast, has announced her candidacy for the Liberal Party in the next federal election. Ms. Penn, 46, filed her nomination papers yesterday for the riding of Saanich Gulf-Islands, currently held by Natural Resources Minister Gary Lunn. May is expected to make her official announcement on Sunday in Antigonish, N.S....the Greens have been talking to the Liberals on ways to unseat the Conservatives in Central Nova...Keith Boag said the Liberals he talked to are neither confirming nor denying the reports. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/03/17/may-ns.html Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
jdobbin Posted March 17, 2007 Report Posted March 17, 2007 Interesting, Briony Penn, prominent Green Party member, has left the party to run as a Liberal in BC, and E May herself is running in Central Nova apparently with the help of the Liberal Party, so it would seem voting Green is now really voting Liberal. SID TAFLER Special to The Globe and Mail VICTORIA Briony Penn, a leading light of the environmental movement on the West Coast, has announced her candidacy for the Liberal Party in the next federal election. Ms. Penn, 46, filed her nomination papers yesterday for the riding of Saanich Gulf-Islands, currently held by Natural Resources Minister Gary Lunn. May is expected to make her official announcement on Sunday in Antigonish, N.S....the Greens have been talking to the Liberals on ways to unseat the Conservatives in Central Nova...Keith Boag said the Liberals he talked to are neither confirming nor denying the reports. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/03/17/may-ns.html I'm not surprised at some people switching from the Greens to other parties. As for Central Nova, the NDP candidate for the riding in 2004 and 2006 has since moved to Toronto. The Liberals came third in the riding. It could be a steal if the Liberals do throw their support to a Green candidate. Peter MacKay could go down in defeat. Quote
Catchme Posted March 17, 2007 Author Report Posted March 17, 2007 Nor am I surprised, a lot more will bleed off now as well, along with those who left/will leave because of her support of Stelmach's nothing Green measures and May's coming clean as a non-progressive and a non-feminist. One wonders if that is why Briony left, in fact? I would not doubt it for one moment, as Briony, from what I know of her, does not speak out of both sides of her mouth, unlike May. Now really it is going to be interesting to see what the NDP, do, either they will run Alexis, or there will be a nobody name on the ballot and leave May sink as a national party leader when she loses to MacKay. It would seem that there is no Green Party strategists and May thinks she owns it and can do what she likes. Parachuting May into this riding has nothing more attached to it than stupidity and malice IMV. The Greens got what 1.5% of the votes last election in this riding. The Liberals came in third, and most likely will NOT be running a candidate there. The brilliant strategists who thought this up most likely have given Mackay the seat back, instead of putting May anywhere near getting the seat. So the Greens have yet again served their lord and masters who desire to split the left vote. It is quite clear the Greens are only in existence to this. One must applaud Briony on her smart move and her clear sited knowing that the Greens have no legitimacy. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
Michael Bluth Posted March 17, 2007 Report Posted March 17, 2007 As for Central Nova, the NDP candidate for the riding in 2004 and 2006 has since moved to Toronto. The Liberals came third in the riding. It could be a steal if the Liberals do throw their support to a Green candidate. Peter MacKay could go down in defeat. She has to get 80% of all the Liberal and NDP support from the last election to make it close. Peter MacKay could go down to defeat and Paul Martin could be remembered as one of Canada's greatest PMs. Both could happen, neither likely will. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Canadian Blue Posted March 17, 2007 Report Posted March 17, 2007 I think May has a better chance of winning in Wild Rose than in Mackays riding. I don't get why just doesn't run in a riding where she either has hometown roots, or can possibly win. To go up against Mackay is just somewhat stupid, and I don't get what the Liberal's get out of seeing more Green Party members in parliament. Unless of course they are in a coalition. Apparently the NDP has a large chest of cash from fundraising, so they could be a quite a player, and may increase seats. Saying that, as long as they stay on course with the message they're displaying in the ad's, I'd imagine a few people would consider voting for them. Especially since Harper has shed the "scary,scary" image. I don't see what's not progressive about the Green's, they support non-violence, are pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, etc. If the Green's aren't progressive, then the Liberal's must be National Socialists. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
jdobbin Posted March 17, 2007 Report Posted March 17, 2007 I think May has a better chance of winning in Wild Rose than in Mackays riding. I don't get why just doesn't run in a riding where she either has hometown roots, or can possibly win. To go up against Mackay is just somewhat stupid, and I don't get what the Liberal's get out of seeing more Green Party members in parliament. Unless of course they are in a coalition. Since the Liberals finished third in the riding, it certainly suits them to have her run there rather than a Liberal riding. I do think the Grits would be able to work with her, don't you? It is the NDP who are upset according to some of the TV reports I've watched. I think it is possible for her take the riding if the NDP and Liberal vote goes her way. Quote
White Doors Posted March 17, 2007 Report Posted March 17, 2007 It is the NDP who are upset according to some of the TV reports I've watched And the thread starter obviously. The NDP fortunes are not very well right now. Nice to see. Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
jdobbin Posted March 17, 2007 Report Posted March 17, 2007 And the thread starter obviously.The NDP fortunes are not very well right now. Nice to see. There could be some Green people unhappy as well but none were interviewed aside from the leader. In all fairness, finding a seat for the leader to run is not as easy task. In Central Nova at least, May saw a majority of people didn't vote for MacKay. If she can tap into that support, she wins. Quote
geoffrey Posted March 17, 2007 Report Posted March 17, 2007 As for Central Nova, the NDP candidate for the riding in 2004 and 2006 has since moved to Toronto. The Liberals came third in the riding. It could be a steal if the Liberals do throw their support to a Green candidate. Peter MacKay could go down in defeat.She has to get 80% of all the Liberal and NDP support from the last election to make it close.Peter MacKay could go down to defeat and Paul Martin could be remembered as one of Canada's greatest PMs. Both could happen, neither likely will. I agree. It's dreaming to hope to knock off Mackay. Not only does he have massive name recognition in the riding (the Mackay's have represented Central Nova since 1971... the only breaks being for bringing Mulroney into the HoC and the complete destruction national of the PC's in 1993, notably when a Mackay hasn't run). Between Elmer and Peter, I think it's safe to they that Central Nova'ers like what they've done. MacKay's support will likely, as it nearly always does, increase because of his cabinet post as well. May has no hope. Which is nice, we won't have to see any Green's on their one-track platform wasting our time in the Commons. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
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