Devil Worship

[PolyNewbie]

Ted Gunderson, a high level FBI agent in charge of 800 agents explains how they get the congressional trash to pass legislation like the Patriot Act.

They take kids for orphanages and take them to houses where they meet up with coked up politicians, they get the politicians to have sex with the kids and use that to bribe them into passing legislation.

It may be hard to believe but any society with a gap between the rich and poor such as ours turn to decadance.

Listen to his interview with Lisa Giullani on WingTV here. Its the 7th down on this List

[Canadian Blue]

Has anybody ever seen that movie Bowling for Columbine, don't most of these rants sound like something that James Nichols would say.

[guyser]

Ted Gunderson, a high level FBI agent in charge of 800 agents explains how they get the congressional trash to pass legislation like the Patriot Act.

They take kids for orphanages and take them to houses where they meet up with coked up politicians, they get the politicians to have sex with the kids and use that to bribe them into passing legislation.

It may be hard to believe but any society with a gap between the rich and poor such as ours turn to decadance.

Listen to his interview with Lisa Giullani on WingTV here. Its the 7th down on this List

Do you ever stop and think critically? Honestly...do you?

Coked up politicians diddling young children. And nobody wants to talk to the press? No one?

Yet Mark Foley can have chats online with legal age young men and gets vilified for it , rightly so, but yet this theory of yours flys under the radar?

Good lord, wake up to critical thinking. If you spent half as much time thinking about and researching you would not come off as some half baked internet weenie living in the basement.

[PolyNewbie]

guyser: You need to wake up and realize not everyone is like you. The people that run things - the ruling class can often be sophists, nihilists, whatever. They can be like animals and are well rewarded for it. People like this rise to the top in a dying decadent civilization.

You need to stop watching TV and realize some people have only evil in their hearts. They care about absolutely nothing but themselves and can be quite proud of this fact.

[Canadian Blue]

guyser: You need to wake up and realize not everyone is like you. The people that run things - the ruling class can often be sophists, nihilists, whatever. They can be like animals and are well rewarded for it. People like this rise to the top in a dying decadent civilization.

Lets see the definition's of the people you are villifying here:

Soph·ist (plural Soph·ists) ancient Greek philosopher: a member of a school of ancient Greek professional philosophers who were expert in and taught the skills of rhetoric, argument, and debate, but were criticized for specious reasoning.

The sophists were active before and during the time of Socrates and Plato, who were their main critics.

So people were taught in the skills of argument and debate want to destroy our society.

Nihilism

1. total rejection of social mores: the general rejection of established social conventions and beliefs, especially of morality and religion

2. belief that nothing is worthwhile: a belief that life is pointless and human values are worthless

3. disbelief in objective truth: the belief that there is no objective basis for truth

4. belief in destruction of authority: the belief that all established authority is corrupt and must be destroyed in order to rebuild a just society

5. Ni·hil·ismRussian political movement: a political movement in late 19th-century Russia that sought to bring about a socially just new society by destroying the existing one through acts of terrorism and assassination

Yeah, so people that want to change society and bring about a much more just one.

Honestly, stop being so paranoid as it's not doing you any favors.

You need to stop watching TV and realize some people have only evil in their hearts. They care about absolutely nothing but themselves and can be quite proud of this fact.

Stop watching TV, why? I barely ever watch TV, but I don't see the harm. As well yeah their are evil people out there, but so far you are only speaking of a group which you cannot name. You are probably more likely to be supporting an authoritarian agenda because of this fear you have that someone is out to get you and destroy society.

[PolyNewbie]

CanadianBlue:So people were taught in the skills of argument and debate want to destroy our society.

There are too many laws - far too many. Plato explains that the law itself can be a tool of oppression.

Canadian Blue:total rejection of social mores: the general rejection of established social conventions and beliefs, especially of morality and religion

When someone is part of the establishment and holds these views they get put into practise. I will give you an example:

A practise among lawyers a few years ago when they had a case that could not be won was to load semi detached trailers full of documentation and send this to opposing council when certain documentation was requested. The opposing client would go broke while their lawyer would sift through the junk to find what they are looking for and therefore be unable to continue their case.

CanadianBlue:You are probably more likely to be supporting an authoritarian agenda because of this fear you have that someone is out to get you and destroy society.

I know that a very small group of people are out to destroy society as it is and create a centrally controlled authoritarian society. I know this because they tell us. We live in the information age - you can find out almost anything. I know that sustantial reductions in population and a new myth based society is being created and I know this because they tell us this.

The same people that are out to get me are out to get you and all the rest of the hockey pucks on this forum that defend the amoral and often criminal actions of our governments.

Don't think for a minute that you can guess what I may be concluding from all of this. I am a lot older than you are, far better read and I know how the system works from my own experiences. You know virtually nothing other than what you have been told to believe by the same group that is destroying society.

[guyser]

1)A practise among lawyers a few years ago when they had a case that could not be won was to load semi detached trailers full of documentation and send this to opposing council when certain documentation was requested. The opposing client would go broke while their lawyer would sift through the junk to find what they are looking for and therefore be unable to continue their case.

2)I know that a very small group of people are out to destroy society as it is and create a centrally controlled authoritarian society. I know this because they tell us. We live in the information age - you can find out almost anything. I know that sustantial reductions in population and a new myth based society is being created and I know this because they tell us this.

The same people that are out to get me are out to get you and all the rest of the hockey pucks on this forum that defend the amoral and often criminal actions of our governments.

Don't think for a minute that you can guess what I may be concluding from all of this. I am a lot older than you are, far better read and I know how the system works from my own experiences. You know virtually nothing other than what you have been told to believe by the same group that is destroying society.

1) oh come on, that is so laughable I am almost embarassed to reply! Trailer loads huh? My three year court case would not have produced a pick up truck full . Besides there are legal avenues to prevent that.

2) "they tell us" " they tell us" ......you believe anything. A shame you dont believe in critical thinking.

I saved this one to be reprinted here..........

Don't think for a minute that you can guess what I may be concluding from all of this. I am a lot older than you are, far better read and I know how the system works from my own experiences. You know virtually nothing other than what you have been told to believe by the same group that is destroying society.

Your own experiences have never done anything to enlighten you. You keep positing scenarios but never with any back up. Why not tell us who the system is from your own experiences. I can ascertain this based on some of your wild postings such as above where you say people tell us, or lawyers send tractor trailer loads of bogus paper to fend off lawsuits.

[PolyNewbie]

guyser:2) "they tell us" " they tell us" ......you believe anything. A shame you dont believe in critical thinking.

Heres one:

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications whose members have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion over forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop a plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But the work now is much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto determination practised in past centuries"- David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, at the Trilteral commission in June 1991.

Go to NWO Quotes for more. Read through Foreign Policy the magazine put out by the Council of Foreign Relations.

Jaques Ceausteau is known to have said (paraphrase) "...we need to kill 350,000 people per day.." Look up the quote yourself. Oberman says on MSNBC that they are building detention centers.

[PolyNewbie]

Posted - 10/07/2006 : 09:03:29 AM

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"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the agentur of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions.

The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.

The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the agentur of the Illuminati between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam and political Zionism mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

~Albert Pike

[Canadian Blue]

Heres one:

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications whose members have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion over forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop a plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But the work now is much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto determination practised in past centuries"- David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, at the Trilteral commission in June 1991.

Go to NWO Quotes for more. Read through Foreign Policy the magazine put out by the Council of Foreign Relations.

Do you have the entire text of that quote, for some reason I doubt it.

Jaques Ceausteau is known to have said (paraphrase) "...we need to kill 350,000 people per day.." Look up the quote yourself. Oberman says on MSNBC that they are building detention centers.

Give us the link so we can actually see the entire text instead of your own "truths" on the world.

[PolyNewbie]

The number of links and divergent sources on this NWO agenda is unending. It wouldn't matter how much proof I posted, you would want more.

A perfect example is that very complete Rockefeller quote.

[Canadian Blue]

It's not the full complete "quote" I want, it's the full text of what Rockefeller had said.

As for that Albert Pike text, is that based on any actual evidence. I can't really take that seriously knowing the history of the 20th century.

[PolyNewbie]

You can learn about the New World Order in an online book written by HG Wells. Its free on line.

You can learn about history from Webster Tarpley in two online books, one being "Against Oligarchy" and the other being "Bush:The Unauthorized Biagraphy". These are both free.

CanadianBlue:As for that Albert Pike text, is that based on any actual evidence

The fact that is was written before ww1 is the evidence.

[Canadian Blue]

The fact that is was written before ww1 is the evidence.

That's not possible, because nazism was started and created after World War 1 in Germany.

Unless this guy is some Nostradamus type.

BTW: I'll read some real books before I pick some conspiracy paranoid books. It's simply a waste of my time. I'd rather read Nietzshe, Marx, Ralston Saul, Plato, etc.

[PolyNewbie]

Have you read Voltaires Bastards ?

[Canadian Blue]

No, however I have finished reading Beyond Good and Evil today, and am hoping to add more literature to my personal readings.

[PolyNewbie]

Volatirs Bastards is probably the best book I have ever read.

[obsidian]

how about actually talking about how bad the patriot act is?

and how bad our canadian counterpart, the anti-terror act is?