Soviet troops who fought aginst fascists are a gang of bandits

[Bronze_soldier]

"Soviet troops who fought aginst fascists are a gang of bandits"

An utterance of the Estonian President about the Soviet warriors-liberators.

For already two months the world is anxietly discussing an outrageous intention of the Estonian leadership to demolish a Bronze Soldier monument in the downtown of Tallinn.

The graves of warriors were esteemed at all times, after all. The memory about them has always become the part of the nation's memory.

But the ancient traditions seem to be unfamiliar to actual politicians. It was the following utterance what became the evidence:

"A group of Nazi brigands was banished by another gang - by Soviet troops."

In his interview given to BBC the actual Estonian President ventured to characterize in such a way the historical events connected with the liberation of Estonia from the fascist intervents in 1944.

We consider these words not just an escapade of an irresponsible politician but a provocation, an attempt to embroil the nations, to profane the heroes' memory.

Can we be surprised after such words and such estimations of a great mission of those people, who risked their lives to set Europe free from a fascism, that nowadays happy and prosperous Europeans put on again SS uniform and march on the streets of the Estonian cities?

And why does the public still remain silent?

Why is nobody from the politicians indignant on provocative speeches of president of Estonia?

Why are Jewish organizations not indignant that ideology of fascism is openly popularized in Estonia?

Why are the MASS-MEDIA quiet?

When will the measures on permission of this be accepted, because conflict is passing already to the international level?

We sent many letters with information about glorification of fascism in Estonia encouraged at state level, but we did not received any reaction!

Veterans were prevented from laying the flowers on a Bronze Soldier monument

May flowers be freely placed on graves in Estonia today?

May one revere the memory of fallen heroes without running the danger?

Today, on the 23rd of February, the representatives of a Night Watch movement and a Constitutional party came to do honour to those who fell in the World War II and to lay a wreath ordered by the veteran counsil of a Jewish community of Dnipropetrovsk on a Bronze Soldier monument.

At 11:30 a body of men came to the monument who tried to scatter the flowers and to place an iron wreath with the insulting inscription on the monument instead of them.

As a result a conflict has taken place which has grown into the fight. Not only veterans but also eople who came to place their bunches of flowers to the pedestal took part in it.

The police almost didn't interfere in it.

Present events testify to the intensification of the confict between Estonian nationalists and opponents of the fascism ideology.

Should we watch the current situation with indifference?

Dear ladies and gentlemen! If events what are going on now in the world are not indifferent to you, help to remind how fascism is terrible to reporters and members of parliament, who started to forget it! All information about fascism propaganda in Estonia you can find on a site

www.bronze-soldier.com

[M.Dancer]

"A group of Nazi brigands was banished by another gang - by Soviet troops."

That sounds quite accurate, if a little soft. Important to remember, without the soviet go ahead to the Nazis, the invasion of poland would not have been the duck soup it was...and of course once poland was divided between stalin and hitler, both got their chance at murdering Poles.

[M.Dancer]

Another point......It was the Soviet thugs who first Invaded Estonia in July 1940

[M.Dancer]

When Germany invaded the Soviet Union in June 1940, Churchill, in a rhetorical flourish, spoke of "Russian soldiers standing on the threshold of their native land, guarding the fields which their fathers have tilled from time immemorial." He omitted that they also stood in Estonia, Poland, Latvia and Lithuania, which they had recently conquered.

http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/....cfm?pageid=531

[White Doors]

Churchill also said he would fight on the side of satan against hitler when asked of his about-face on relations with the USSR.

He was no friend of communism.

[Rue]

"Dear ladies and gentlemen! If events what are going on now in the world are not indifferent to you, help to remind how fascism is terrible to reporters and members of parliament, who started to forget it! All information about fascism propaganda in Estonia you can find on a site

www.bronze-soldier.com "

I am appreciative of your willingness to stand up to fascism in Estonia. As a Jew who worries that the next generation will not remember what happened in Europe, I applaud people like you.

[Rue]

Another point......It was the Soviet thugs who first Invaded Estonia in July 1940

You missed the point of the original post. Estonia has a fascist past. Changing the subject and saying Stalin was evil or the Soviet invasion was evil does not change or excuse the fascism that was prevalent in Estonia and crippled its people.

Estonia is a new nation. If it is to be a true democracy it must not hide behind its hatred of the Soviet Union to avoid dealing with its fascist past. That is what this poster is saying. He is part of a new generation of Estonians that are trying to be honest about their past and do not excuse what the Soviets did but will not hide from their fascist past as well. Both past eras brought with them anti-democractic totalitarian tendencies that enslaved the people of Estonia.

I pray the young generation of Estonians is brave enough to confront the fascist elements within their society. I am positive they can do it as they struggle to build a new vision for their nation.

[Rue]

Churchill also said he would fight on the side of satan against hitler when asked of his about-face on relations with the USSR.

He was no friend of communism.

Neither necessarily are Estonians brave enough to confront their fascist past. Please don't suggest if you are anti-fascist you are automatically a communist or for that matter automatically a supporter of Stalin. My comment is not directly at you personally, I say it rhetorically.

[jbg]

Churchill also said he would fight on the side of satan against hitler when asked of his about-face on relations with the USSR.

He was no friend of communism.

Neither necessarily are Estonians brave enough to confront their fascist past. Please don't suggest if you are anti-fascist you are automatically a communist or for that matter automatically a supporter of Stalin. My comment is not directly at you personally, I say it rhetorically.

It took John Paul II to get Poland over its historical and vitriolic hatred of the Jews. Estonia may have to wait a while to get a progressive icon such as that.