Denouncing Evolution: Rep Warren Chism's World

[Catchme]

Just when one thought bizarro combinations of politics and fundamentalist secular religion in the USA was coming to an end, you see this:

Warren "Anti-CopernicaChisum"

by: Glenn Smith

Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 19:38:25 PM CST

It's not surprising that the earth doesn't move for Warren Chisum, and maybe it's not surprising that he blames a Jewish conspiracy for it.

Still, it's enough to set the world a-spinning that the chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, the most powerful committee in the House, distributed to legislators a memo pitching crazed wingers who believe the earth stands still -- doesn't spin on its axis or revolve around the Sun -- that Copernicus was part of a Jewish conspiracy to undermine the Old Testament. That would be the same Old Testament that was written by the folks Chisum's friends say are conspiring to undermine it.

Chisum has no problem believing that GOP interests revolve around the pocketbooks of its wealthy contributors.

Georgia Lawmaker: Jews Secretly Behind Evolution

Powerful Texas state Rep. Warren Chisum ®, an advocate of religious-right causes such as banning adoption by gay couples and amending the state constitution to ban same-sex marriage, has passed along a “memo” from a kindred spirit in the Georgia House claiming that “teaching evolution amounts to indoctrinating students in an ancient Jewish sect's beliefs,” reports the Dallas Morning-News.

He passed along the memo from kindred spirit Mr. Bridges, the man who is/was the sponsor of bills to undermine the teaching of evolution in Georgia. Who believes:

Copy of the bizarro memo

The Bible and all real evidence confirms that this is precisely what He did, and indeed:

The Earth is not rotating...nor is it going around the sun. …

Today’s cosmology fulfills an anti-Bible religious plan disguised as "science".

The whole scheme from Copernicanism to Big Bangism is a factless lie. Those lies have planted the Truth-killing virus of evolutionism in every aspect of man’s "knowledge" about the Universe, the Earth, and Himself.

Rep Warren Chism and Representative Ben Bridges also believe:

“Indisputable evidence – long hidden but now available to everyone – demonstrates conclusively that so-called 'secular evolution science' is the Big Bang, 15-billion-year, alternate 'creation scenario' of the Pharisee Religion," writes Mr. Bridges …

Mr. Bridges also supplies a link to a document that describes scientists Carl Sagan and Albert Einstein as "Kabbalists" and laments "Hollywood's unrelenting role in flooding the movie theaters with explicit or implicit endorsement of evolutionism."

Bridges, the sponsor of bills to undermine the teaching of evolution in Georgia, referred Texas lawmakers to a web site dedicated to opposing both the theory of evolution and that the earth revolves around the sun.

Now remember, they are calling eviolution a Jewish conspiracy to discredit the Old Testament, the very same testament that is actually written by Jews. Jews, who in fact believe in it themselves.

How can they fail to see the inconsistency and spurious nature of this belief or premise?

The Non-Moving Earth & Anti-Evolution Web Page

The Fair Education Foundation Inc.

Exposing the False Science Idol of Evolutionism, and Proving the Truthfulness of the Bible from Creation to Heaven... - since 1973 - Marshall Hall, Pres.

All of the evidence that is required to expose and destroy the counterfeit Copernican Model of a rotating and orbiting Earth--and the entire evolutionary paradigm resting upon that counterfeit...in scores of links on this web page.

Those who read some or all of these links will quickly realize that this is no idle claim. Rather--as will become evident with each subject listed--there is abundant hard proof that both the Copernican Counterfeit and the Big Bang Evolutionary Paradigm that is built upon it are factless frauds from start to finish.

Indeed, the diligent reader will be astonished at the level of demonstrable hi-tech fraud, baseless assumptions, occult mathematics, etc.,--all part of a religious conspiracy!--that has been at work over many centuries implanting the incredible evolution myth about the origin of the Universe, the Earth, and Mankind.

A religious conspiracy eh, brought to the world by the very same people who brought the Old Testament to the world.

And Rep Chism, who is the Chair for the House Appropriations Committee who believes in and fosters this nonsense is about to do this to the middle class Texans:

House Calendars has set the vote on Chisum's HB2 for Monday afternoon. The bill would strip about $6 billion from general revenue to fund a big hunk of a massive 2008-2009 property tax cut for the wealthy. (The rest of the $14 billion windfall for the wealthy comes from the puny business tax passed last year that has fallen way short of funding the property tax cut as promised.)

It's clear Chisum's god, Craddick, doesn't want to fiddle around with open and public debate about whether the Legislature ought to stop strangling of the middle class before it tightens its grip on our throats and transfers more middle class money to the rich.

Why fund public schools or keep colleges available to the middle class if they are filling our children's heads with damaging Kabbalistic fantasies? (Yes, Copernicus, Darwin et al are part of a Kabbalistic Conspiracy according to the fixed-earth crowd).

Gravity (Pft!), night and day (bah!), biological reproduction (ugh!). Who needs such immoral ideas corrupting our kids? No, spend the money on those with more visible signs of God's Blessing. The Elect. The ones with the money.

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Well jeeze, I guess that radical group of liberal's known as scientists must all be wrong.

Either way that representative seem's to be the kind of guy that sees facts as the enemy because they distort his political position.

[White Doors]

Either way that representative seem's to be the kind of guy that sees facts as the enemy because they distort his political position.

sound familiar?

[Catchme]

Actually, it is not 1 representative it is, those Republican Representatives. There are 2 in question 1 from georgis and 1 from Texas. And the memo went out on Chism's office stationary as evidence to get rid of tax supported evolution. And most certainly if the Bill passes all other representatives, who voted in favour, are concurring. And it is expected to pass.

Personally, I think this is bordering on, if not, anti-semitism, that the states are allowing, or perhaps sponsoring. And apparently I am not alone:

The Anti-Defamation League is calling on state Rep. Ben Bridges (R-Not Evolved-Cleveland, GA) to apologize for a memo distributed under his name that says the teaching of evolution should be banned in public schools because it is a religious deception stemming from an ancient Jewish sect.

But it gets weirder and even more inconsistent:

I regret that these people have been offended, but I didn't offend them because I didn't put the memo out."

Meanwhile, a Texas lawmaker says he is "willing to apologize" for giving fellow legislators the memo this week, The Dallas Morning News reported Thursday.

"The stuff that causes conflicts between religious beliefs, you know, I'd never be a party to that," Texas House Appropriations Chairman Warren Chisum told the Morning News on Wednesday. "I'm willing to apologize if I've offended anyone."

The newspaper reported Chisum made his comments after he learned the Anti-Defamation League was demanding an apology in a letter to his office.

In a Feb. 9 letter to fellow Texas House members, Chisum said he was delivering the evolution memo to them "on behalf of Representative Ben Bridges," saying the two met through the National Conference of State Legislatures. Bridges said he didn't know Chisum.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/leg...tlegevolve.html

So, we are to believe/understand that Bridges, who is staunchly evangelical, did not offend any one because he did not send the memo out, talk about shifting sand verbage? Even though it is his memo and his framework for his laws in Georgia. Moreover, the memo was sent to ever state house of representatives that are Republican and NONE have denounced it for the bigotry and insanity it denotes.

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And these are the sort of ideas George Bush and Stephen Harper want to give a greater say in government. Wonderful.

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And these are the sort of ideas George Bush and Stephen Harper want to give a greater say in government. Wonderful.

Exactly, and it does not bode well for our judicial sytem and coherant Canadian Laws does it?

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This is exactly why Harper is stacking our judicial system with fundamentalists. Beware people

[Remiel]

Maybe Bush, but I think you guys may be pushing a " little " hard by throwing Steve in with this junk. I could believe Harper is a tool, but I cannot believe he could possibly be dumb enough to believe the kind of crap those idiots are pushing. I mean, they make radical Islamic fundamentalists who are waiting for their virgins look... smart. At least the virgins are unverifiable. The fact that the Earth spins is quite verifiable, thanks.

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Oh, certainly, Harper is a tool. But whether he personally believes the pathetically stupid and embarrassingly superstitious drivel of the fundamentalists or is merely catering to their dangerous and destructive beliefs for cynical political gain hardly matters that much. Either way, his objective, like the Republicans in the U.S., is to demolish the liberal underpinnings of our institutions.

[White Doors]

Oh, certainly, Harper is a tool. But whether he personally believes the pathetically stupid and embarrassingly superstitious drivel of the fundamentalists or is merely catering to their dangerous and destructive beliefs for cynical political gain hardly matters that much. Either way, his objective, like the Republicans in the U.S., is to demolish the liberal underpinnings of our institutions.

And yet you refer to yourself as a centrist?

[Catchme]

Oh, certainly, Harper is a tool. But whether he personally believes the pathetically stupid and embarrassingly superstitious drivel of the fundamentalists or is merely catering to their dangerous and destructive beliefs for cynical political gain hardly matters that much. Either way, his objective, like the Republicans in the U.S., is to demolish the liberal underpinnings of our institutions.

Quite true, Harper's objective is just that of Bush's, so no matter whether Harper is a beliver in this, or just capitalizing on those who do, for as you say political does not matter, the results would be the same.

Embarassing superstitious drivel, is perhaps not strong enough of a description in regards to the anti-semetic ravings and position taken by these evangelical State Representatives. They are in positions of power and have control of people lives. so,you are correct, it is dangerous and destructive. Moreover, anti-semetic ravings is against the law both in the USA and Canadian. And they are the law makers!

It would only be the ones on the far right of the spectrum, who would not realize the serious parameters of this type of behaviour. But then of course they are the ones who believe this false tripe.

[Figleaf]

Oh, certainly, Harper is a tool. But whether he personally believes the pathetically stupid and embarrassingly superstitious drivel of the fundamentalists or is merely catering to their dangerous and destructive beliefs for cynical political gain hardly matters that much. Either way, his objective, like the Republicans in the U.S., is to demolish the liberal underpinnings of our institutions.

And yet you refer to yourself as a centrist?

I don't get it. What did I write that is inconsistent with a rational centrist position?