Our Biggest Threat

[geoffrey]

I'd say the biggest threat in the world is unknown. I hate to bring up the nazi argument, but they came from nowhere and in a short time almost took over the world.

That's a reasonable position. It's often we don't see the threats until it's too late. We had plenty of time to knock off Hitler before he became a serious issue, but no one cared.

That's why I suggest we have to keep people like Saddam (now dead mind you), Ahmadinejad and Kim Jong-Il on a short leash. One false step and we off them. Can't take chances with madmen dictators. Only takes a couple years before they've taken over half the world.

[PolyNewbie]

I think that North Korea and Iran want or have nukes to protect them from the United States - not to attempt to take over the world.

ROTFLMAO

Can't take chances with madmen dictators.

What about George Bush ?

The USA on the other hand is trying to take over the world. We know this because they admit it in government papers like "The Plan For The New American Century". The Americans are a banker puppet state and have been squashing and subjugating small countries for the bankers for a while now. John Perkins Confessions Of An Economic Hit Man explains this.

[obsidian]

there is a nuclear threat, but it is dismal. WMD's are used for deterence and are not that practical for many situations. a large portion of the USA's and Russia's arsenal are mounted in ICBM's, or are high yeild bombs to be dropped from planes. now with a 1 superpower dynamic, currently, there is no nuclear arms race. it is because of this the US envisioned "civilian safe" nuclear weapons, which they named tactical nuclear weapons. they said they were safer because the explode 30-50 feet underground, and are half the size of little boy to 6 times as large. to make it even worse, a 3 star general can order the use of these tactical nuclear weapons in any theatre...

theses nukes are still nukes nontheless, they are just sugar coated to get approval.

and even more threatening now is the build up of directed energy weapons. as of now the US is an industry leader. it is now possible, using THEL, to shoot down multiple incoming missles and mortar rounds. these lasers can definetly shoot down ICBM's with a little fine tuning, if they cant as of now. they also have force fields :|... yes it is now possible to destroy the warhead before it comes in contact with any tank or vehicle equipped with this technology. the us currently uses microwave weapons in iraq. these penetrate the skin only a fraction of a millimeter and cause no lasting damage, but it hurts alot. as of now theyre called active deterence systems, but they're currently only using a fraction of the power available and could easily become a horrifying weapon.

all of these technologies the US posses's could effectively start a new arms race. and it might have already...russia has repeatedly voiced its concerns about the USA's star wars program. an arms race wouldn't end up with other countries utilizing this incredible technology, it would most likely cause other countries to find other ways to attack using nuclear ordanance, which is much cheaper.

[obsidian]

the majority here cite islamic terrorism as our greatest threat, i find this very troubling and confusing. in the last century how many have they killed in N. America? no more than the casualties of 9/11 and maybe lets say 5... COME ON people they pose no threat to our infastructure as militants, or terrorists. they do pose an economic threat though...if most of the islamic states we think harbour terrorist stop trading oil with us, it would devestate us. and if you remember correctly, the US is in afghanistan because of "terrorism" and the US is in iraq because they want oil. most people dont even see the difference, or immediately assume they're corelated. THEY AREN'T. i do believe terrorists exist, and they could of possibly attacked the WTC's 1 & 2, but they couldn't of with out the US government knowing. there were multiple warnings, which the US ignored. and nearly all of the terrorists who were involved in 9/11 were already on a watch list, and used their proper identification to board the flights. this does not show how inadequate the system is, it shows how calous the government is. the truth of the matter is, if they were a big enough threat, they would be off the face of this planet. however, when used for fear mongering, they are essential to the propoganda machine that sends our sons and daughters over see's to die so we can pay $.80 a litre of gas IF WE'RE LUCKY!

and also if you think about it

we are all subserviant to the banker/elite agenda

terrorism is part of the banker/elite agenda, or caused by it

global warming is part of the banker/elite agenda, they caused it

almost anything that is researched, or developed, gets the stamp of approval from some billionaire who chooses it because he knows he can make even more off of it

and if you say they didnt cause global warming, or terrorism, the effects of the current monetary system indefinetly did. if electric cars were the same price as gas, would there be less pollution? OF COURSE. they decide what is profitable, and act upon it. and you can ask any economist this; when is the most money made? either during times of peace, or times of war? and the answer 100% of the time is war. for example look at all of our technology, most of it has just been made smaller over the last 60 years, and already existed. for the most part we're living off the carcass of technologies developed for and during WW2. the bankers fund both sides people, our death is their game...

[Canadian Blue]

and if you say they didnt cause global warming, or terrorism, the effects of the current monetary system indefinetly did. if electric cars were the same price as gas, would there be less pollution? OF COURSE. they decide what is profitable, and act upon it.

Wasn't the death of the electric car primarily the fault of the politician's, oil companies, and car companies. I've seen that documentary, and I don't think some international banker was behind it.

[PolyNewbie]

blueblood:I'd say the biggest threat in the world is unknown. I hate to bring up the nazi argument, but they came from nowhere and in a short time almost took over the world.

That is the banker agenda now as it was then. Hitlers party was broke. Brown Brothers Harriman (Prescott Bush) saved the NAZI party and continued to help them up until 1942 when it got into the NY Times and they were arrested but very soon after let go. Bankers even financed the Russian revolution.

There are many parallels that exist between George Bush police state and the NAZI's in terms of laws written. Their is an interview with a few different law professors on various dates on the infowars site that explain this.

Russia & Iran are resisting the New World Order. Iraq was too powerful and nationalist government: it had to be destroyed.

[Canadian Blue]

Polynewbie, your really not helping your argument by referencing dictatorships as examples.

Why would the bankers finance the communist Russian's. That doesn't make sense considering the whole workers of the world unite thing.

That is the banker agenda now as it was then. Hitlers party was broke. Brown Brothers Harriman (Prescott Bush) saved the NAZI party and continued to help them up until 1942 when it got into the NY Times and they were arrested but very soon after let go. Bankers even financed the Russian revolution.

According to conspiracy theorists perhaps, but rational people and the ADL, not at all true.

There are many parallels that exist between George Bush police state and the NAZI's in terms of laws written. Their is an interview with a few different law professors on various dates on the infowars site that explain this.

Dude the Nazis believed in the same banking cabal world domination BS that you believe in.

Russia & Iran are resisting the New World Order. Iraq was too powerful and nationalist government: it had to be destroyed.

Russia is slowly turning into a dictatorship, Iran is a theocratic nation with an atrocious human rights record, and Iraq was a mess under Saddam Hussein who was a genocidal maniac.

I find it more worrying that the nation's you use as examples are also ones where people actually have gotten killed for their political beliefs.

As well you don't have it all that bad since you can openly make such accusations against your government.

[PolyNewbie]

Why would the bankers finance the communist Russian's. That doesn't make sense considering the whole workers of the world unite thing.

Its main stream history. You have to read to know this. Many sources will tell you this.

Dude the Nazis believed in the same banking cabal world domination BS that you believe in.

Lots of people believe it.

[leonardcohen]

Anyone who doesnt realize that g.w.moron is the biggest threat to the world is a threat themself

Did you just insult everybody on this thread save for the three who voted for Bush?

[obsidian]

Bankers are at the top of the food chain.

picture how much money your employer makes off you, then multiply that exponentially.

and that is the kind of profit margin we are talking about, it all trickles down.

if you disagree, im not sure of the exact numbers, but i believe in the US corporations get taxed alot less than the people. numerically speaking i think the american people pay 2-3 times as much in taxes as american corporations. HOW CAN THAT BE RIGHT. we're talking about multi billion dollar blue chip corporations that make more money, because they have more money. if you had the correct forecasting program and you plugged in the current trends you would find that the people are being robbed. there has been an dramatic escalation in the movement of money from the middleclass to the rich and super rich. the richest 400 people on the planet own more than the bottom 3 billion...

and hey, if anything involves money, does it not also, by definition and reality, involve bankers?

you said that the "politician's, oil companies, and car companies." were responsible for the death of the electric car. did you even bother to think WHY before stating that? it's because they would lose money. it's because the politicians political campaigns are paid for by the oil tycoons. the oil tycoons themselves, are almost as wealthy if not more than some of the bankers. they own a commodity, which as of now, all countries need to become industrialized and 1st nation. to power all modes of transportation. AND BEST OF ALL, IT'S EXAUSTABLE. you see oil is such a huge money making scheme and it wont be abandoned until it once again becomes profitable for the bankers to invest in something else.

anywhere money applies, so do bankers.