Steve awards contract without asking for bids

[hiti]

When Steve screamed about it in opposition he was just kidding.

Ottawa orders psych testing for border guard trainers

The government notice says it intends to award the contract to Wilson Banwell Human Solutions of Calgary, because it says the company is the only firm capable of doing the work. Link

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[Who's Doing What?]

"Only firm capable of handling the work."

Now where have I heard that line of BS before?

[Fortunata]

"Only firm capable of handling the work."

Now where have I heard that line of BS before?

The Whitehouse said that when it handed Haliburton those huge rebuilding contracts in Iraq.

[geoffrey]

"Only firm capable of handling the work."

Now where have I heard that line of BS before?

The Whitehouse said that when it handed Haliburton those huge rebuilding contracts in Iraq.

I agree. It should have went to Tim Horton's.

[Ricki Bobbi]

Good work WDW and Fortunata!

Posts #2 and 3 you managed to hijack and compare Harper to GW.

You are credits to the angry, embittered, entitled, pseudo-intellectual leftist cause!

[Shakeyhands]

Geoffry and Ricki, whilst one comment was funny and the other... well, cute, do either care to comment on the fact that this was an untendered deal? My question would be what basis they determined that this company was the only one capable... ?

[Saturn]

As if this were the only contract that is going to an "only" bidder..

Here is another $3,000,000,000 contract where only 1 "viable bidder" will be considered. Wonder who will win the contract.

Canada's Department of National Defence is poised to buy new search and rescue aircraft, but will look at only one bid for a $3-billion contract because of the military's strict requirements, says a newspaper report.

The Canadian Forces is considering the Italian-built Spartan C27J as the only "viable bidder" when it moves to replace Buffalo and Hercules planes currently deployed in rescue missions in Canada, according to a DND document obtained by the Globe and Mail.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/01/03/...e-contract.html

[Ricki Bobbi]

Geoffry and Ricki, whilst one comment was funny and the other... well, cute, do either care to comment on the fact that this was an untendered deal? My question would be what basis they determined that this company was the only one capable... ?

First things first.

Was my comment the funny one or the cute one?

[Fortunata]

Good work WDW and Fortunata!

Posts #2 and 3 you managed to hijack and compare Harper to GW.

You are credits to the angry, embittered, entitled, pseudo-intellectual leftist cause!

Actually Ricki Bobbi, I wasn't comparing Harper and Bush (although there are comparisons to be had). Haliburton is old news now but no less true because of it.

And, just so you know....I don't consider myself leftist (that would be too NDP) nor an intellectual (just smart ), let alone a pseudo-intellectual; I'm not angry nor embittered (just slightly cynical) nor entitled since I work hard for everything I've got and wouldn't have it any other way. Sorry to crush your empty rhetoric.

[Shakeyhands]

First things first.

Was my comment the funny one or the cute one?

I was being overly generous either way, trust me.

[Ricki Bobbi]

Actually Ricki Bobbi, I wasn't comparing Harper and Bush (although there are comparisons to be had). Haliburton is old news now but no less true because of it.

And, just so you know....I don't consider myself leftist (that would be too NDP) nor an intellectual (just smart ), let alone a pseudo-intellectual; I'm not angry nor embittered (just slightly cynical) nor entitled since I work hard for everything I've got and wouldn't have it any other way. Sorry to crush your empty rhetoric.

You coincidentally drew the comparison between Harper and Bush coincidentally? .... Right

You sounded almost reasonable up until that last line ...

... almost being the key word.

I was being overly generous either way, trust me.

To Geoffrey maybe ....

[Catchme]

As if this were the only contract that is going to an "only" bidder..

Here is another $3,000,000,000 contract where only 1 "viable bidder" will be considered. Wonder who will win the contract.

Canada's Department of National Defence is poised to buy new search and rescue aircraft, but will look at only one bid for a $3-billion contract because of the military's strict requirements, says a newspaper report.

The Canadian Forces is considering the Italian-built Spartan C27J as the only "viable bidder" when it moves to replace Buffalo and Hercules planes currently deployed in rescue missions in Canada, according to a DND document obtained by the Globe and Mail.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/01/03/...e-contract.html

Well, Harper did send out all those letters telling governmental lobbyists he would not be following Gomery's recommendations to stop things like adscam and government paybacks from happening. They musta read something tlike this:

Hi Guys;

Thanks for the funding of my campaign, don't worry the trough is open, I will be awarding contracts directly with NO open bidding.

Please find the attached list of new programs, and old ones, that are coming open for tender, if one or mor suits, please forward to appropriate ministry for immediate rubber stamp approval.

There is also a list attached of public office appointments that are open. Should you be interested, please submit your resume to the appropriate Ministry for rubber stamp appproval, if Darrel Reid can do it, you can too.

[Who's Doing What?]

"Only firm capable of handling the work."

Now where have I heard that line of BS before?

The Whitehouse said that when it handed Haliburton those huge rebuilding contracts in Iraq.

Ding ding ding. That is correct. Somebody give Fortunata a prize.

I thought Harper was supposed to be different. You know, NOT Bush-lite?

[Who's Doing What?]

Good work WDW and Fortunata!

Posts #2 and 3 you managed to hijack and compare Harper to GW.

You are credits to the angry, embittered, entitled, pseudo-intellectual leftist cause!

Did ya ever think it is because there are glaring similarities?

Leftist cause? Whatever, as long as I'm not on your team I'm happy.

You know you are beginning to remind me of that Simpsons episode where Lisa trys to see which is more intelligent, her hamster or her brother.

Can I call you Bart?

[geoffrey]

Geoffry and Ricki, whilst one comment was funny and the other... well, cute, do either care to comment on the fact that this was an untendered deal? My question would be what basis they determined that this company was the only one capable... ?

Ya it's not visually tasty, we'll have to see what value comes out of it in the long run.

I've dealt with sole source contracts before because I was working with people that actually were the only ones that could do it, and we provided fantastic value to the provincial government, it wasn't a rip off by any means. So it can work both ways.

[Ricki Bobbi]

Did ya ever think it is because there are glaring similarities?

Leftist cause? Whatever, as long as I'm not on your team I'm happy.

You know you are beginning to remind me of that Simpsons episode where Lisa trys to see which is more intelligent, her hamster or her brother.

Can I call you Bart?

The purpose of this thread was to talk about an untendered contract.

Why highjack it to compare the President Bush and Prime Minister Harper?

[Fortunata]

Ding ding ding. That is correct. Somebody give Fortunata a prize.

YAY! A prize for meeeee!!

Let me see ..... a good prize would be ...

Ricki Bobbi, forehead to the floor saying ... "I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy."

[Ricki Bobbi]

Let me see ..... a good prize would be ...

Ricki Bobbi, forehead to the floor saying ... "I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy."

It has to be a muslim form of prayer because?

[Fortunata]

Let me see ..... a good prize would be ...

Ricki Bobbi, forehead to the floor saying ... "I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy."

It has to be a muslim form of prayer because?

It's a Wayne form; I think the Muslims got it from him.

[Who's Doing What?]

Did ya ever think it is because there are glaring similarities?

Leftist cause? Whatever, as long as I'm not on your team I'm happy.

You know you are beginning to remind me of that Simpsons episode where Lisa trys to see which is more intelligent, her hamster or her brother.

Can I call you Bart?

The purpose of this thread was to talk about an untendered contract.

Why highjack it to compare the President Bush and Prime Minister Harper?

Because Bush's VP Cheney did the same thing.

Oh sorry am I stalking you by responding?

Grow up kid.

[Who's Doing What?]

Let me see ..... a good prize would be ...

Ricki Bobbi, forehead to the floor saying ... "I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy."

It has to be a muslim form of prayer because?

It's a Wayne form; I think the Muslims got it from him.

Me thinks that one went juuuuuust a little over his head.

[hiti]

No competitive bidding please, we're Canadian -LAWRENCE MARTIN

Competition? Who needs it? Most other advanced democracies, but not this one. Not even with a Conservative government in office and not even if it's costing us billions.

Our Defence Department is on a hell-bent-for-leather spending spree. With Afghanistan as a rationale -- a dubious one in that most of the new goods won't be used there -- there's no stopping the shopping. There's $3-billion earmarked for search and rescue aircraft, $3.4-billion for cargo planes, $5-billion for Hercules transport planes and $2.7-billion for Chinook helicopters.

To get the right planes

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Never mind that if proper competitive bidding happened, even if the firm had been previously selected, $$$$ would be saved because companies would be "competing." Like why couldn't Toronto-built DeHavilland Q200/300 Dash 8 aircraft receive the contract for fixed-wing search-and-rescue aircraft, which would be compatible to the unproven Spartan C27J.

All hail the accountability of Steve and his potted plants. When he screamed and ranted about liberals and the Liberal party he was just kidding.

[Saturn]

Ya it's not visually tasty, we'll have to see what value comes out of it in the long run.

I've dealt with sole source contracts before because I was working with people that actually were the only ones that could do it, and we provided fantastic value to the provincial government, it wasn't a rip off by any means. So it can work both ways.

When you have $3 billion to spend, just jumping in to see what value comes out of it in the long run is probably not the wisest option. There may be cases where only one company can provide the service/goods. But search and rescue helicopters is certainly not one those cases.

[geoffrey]

Ya it's not visually tasty, we'll have to see what value comes out of it in the long run.

I've dealt with sole source contracts before because I was working with people that actually were the only ones that could do it, and we provided fantastic value to the provincial government, it wasn't a rip off by any means. So it can work both ways.

When you have $3 billion to spend, just jumping in to see what value comes out of it in the long run is probably not the wisest option. There may be cases where only one company can provide the service/goods. But search and rescue helicopters is certainly not one those cases.

I likely agree. I'm unsure of what the specifications were, or even for what one looks for in a search and rescue helicopter. I'm assuming one with all weather ability, probably some night vision capability... something pretty fast, can fly low?

Who knows. I'm not an aerial SAR expert. If the helicopters perform for the value of the contract then I don't care. If they don't, then the government has a serious issue on it's hands.

[Ricki Bobbi]

When you have $3 billion to spend, just jumping in to see what value comes out of it in the long run is probably not the wisest option. There may be cases where only one company can provide the service/goods. But search and rescue helicopters is certainly not one those cases.

If it's such a certainty it should be very easy for you to provide links to SAR helicoters which would fit the bill....